If you want to know how frustrating it is to be a Bills fan

[MSOrange]

This game wasn't on coaching. Not sure what else the offensive coaches could do to put these choke artists in a position to succeed. Yea, Marrone could have kicked a fg but I have no problem with going for it, unfortunately bad Orton showed up today and took an all day dump in the red zone.

I thought going for it was the right decision also. I didn't even think it was that hard of a decision even though Orton had struggled. Not sure what the announcers were going crazy about that for but we didn't exactly have CBS A team calling the game.

 

[JeremyCuse]

This game wasn't on coaching. Not sure what else the offensive coaches could do to put these choke artists in a position to succeed. Yea, Marrone could have kicked a fg but I have no problem with going for it, unfortunately bad Orton showed up today and took an all day dump in the red zone.

Agree for the most part. Only issue I had is the last FG, we had the ball 2 & 2 inside the 10 after running it down there throat the entire drive and we call two pass plays in a row and of course dont gain a yard

 

[Orangeman]

Only coaching issue is the 4 throws into the end zone at the end…in that situation, on 1st and 2nd down, the defense will let you make completions short of the 1st Down/End Zone…

Time wasn't an issue so not sure why the four throws looking for it all at once.

 

[MSOrange]

Only coaching issue is the 4 throws into the end zone at the end…in that situation, on 1st and 2nd down, the defense will let you make completions short of the 1st Down/End Zone…

Time wasn't an issue so not sure why the four throws looking for it all at once.

I do agree with this totally. Not sure why we were going to the end zone on every play. Not like it was the last play of the game.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

Payton had 3rd and 1 at the opponent's 40 something in OT. Ingram had run for like 120 yards at that point. Brees throws incomplete. Payton then decides to punt. And take a delay of game.

Saints just lost in OT by the way. In a situation where they only needed a yard, they chose a possibility of sudden death.

Meathead gonna meat.

 

[Halfmooncuse]

Boomer Eiasson did a number om Marrone on NFL show.

 

[GoSU96]

Ok Solomon wilcots

What? He thought they should have kicked the FG, so how does that make any sense.

From a game management perspective they didn't do anything wrong today. I think they should have run the ball once they got to the 15 instead of four passes to the endzone, but that's different.

When can we expect Batavia to be playing for the state championship? You've let them know your available, right.

 

[longislandcuse]

Boomer Eiasson did a number om Marrone on NFL show.

Over the FG? He realizes the defense didn't get the stop, right? In the scenario that played out HCDM made the right call.

 

[OrangeFoo]

Over the FG? He realizes the defense didn't get the stop, right? In the scenario that played out HCDM made the right call.

Probably the last series of 4 passes into the end zone or the two plays before the fg where they couldn't be bothered to run it once. Hackett needs to go... in over his head.

 

[Stern]

Boomer Eiasson did a number om Marrone on NFL show.

Yeah he did!

 

[GoSU96]

Yeah he did!

You enjoyed that did you?

Let me know the next time you are right about something, because it'll be the first time.

 

[Millhouse]

What? He thought they should have kicked the FG, so how does that make any sense. From a game management perspective they didn't do anything wrong today. I think they should have run the ball once they got to the 15 instead of four passes to the endzone, but that's different. When can we expect Batavia to be playing for the state championship? You've let them know your available, right.

He was wrong on fourth down at least five times. I made that post well before the decided to go fade crazy

 

[rrlbees]

Just find away to watch the Bills/KC game from the beginning, this franchise feels like its cursed at times.

I told you to go to the SU soccer game. Fun game and they beat Duke 2-0. Huge crowd and lots of tailgating.

 

[Stern]

You enjoyed that did you?

Let me know the next time you are right about something, because it'll be the first time.

:crazy:

wow, another one. All I did was confirm what the guy posted. Didn't say I agreed or disagreed with it.

 

[GoSU96]

He was wrong on fourth down at least five times. I made that post well before the decided to go fade crazy

Five times huh?

4-4 from the KC 41 up 7-3 in the 1st Punt to the KC 14,

4-9 from the Buf 14, punt, what an idiot,

4-10 for the Buf 25, punt, another stupid move,

4-8 from the KC 8, FG, go up 10-3, I guess he shouldn't have taken the points,

4-7 from the Buf 45, 1:28 in the half up 10-3, what's he thinking punting there?,

4-2 from the KC 2, FG go up 13-3, always a bad idea to increase the lead, middle of the 3rd.

4-6 from the Buf 41 up 13-10 in the 4th, punt to the KC 8, another ridiculous decision,

4-1 from the Buf 41 9:00 left, down 17-13, punt to the KC 3, get the ball back at the KC 25 after forcing a 3 and out with 4:35 left

4-10 from the KC 15, throw into the incompletion to Watkins in the endzone down 17-13 with 2:30 left giving KC the ball at the 15 and Buffalo has three timeouts and the 2 minute warning.

There's not one of those calls where he was wrong. One punt inside KC territory, very early, with the lead, and it was 4 yds not one or two. After that there isn't one remotely controversial decision, left alone five "wrong" decisions.

The Bills lost that game on the fumble through the endzone and giving KC the short field middle of the 4th quarter, not because they mismanaged 4th down.

 

[Millhouse]

Five times huh? 4-4 from the KC 41 up 7-3 in the 1st Punt to the KC 14, 4-9 from the Buf 14, punt, what an idiot, 4-10 for the Buf 25, punt, another stupid move, 4-8 from the KC 8, FG, go up 10-3, I guess he shouldn't have taken the points, 4-7 from the Buf 45, 1:28 in the half up 10-3, what's he thinking punting there?, 4-2 from the KC 2, FG go up 13-3, always a bad idea to increase the lead, middle of the 3rd. 4-6 from the Buf 41 up 13-10 in the 4th, punt to the KC 8, another ridiculous decision, 4-1 from the Buf 41 9:00 left, down 17-13, punt to the KC 3, get the ball back at the KC 25 after forcing a 3 and out with 4:35 left 4-10 from the KC 15, throw into the incompletion to Watkins in the endzone down 17-13 with 2:30 left giving KC the ball at the 15 and Buffalo has three timeouts and the 2 minute warning. There's not one of those calls where he was wrong. One punt inside KC territory, very early, with the lead, and it was 4 yds not one or two. After that there isn't one remotely controversial decision, left alone five "wrong" decisions. The Bills lost that game on the fumble through the endzone and giving KC the short field middle of the 4th quarter, not because they mismanaged 4th down.

This is stupid. In your world you never go for it with a lead because a fg extends the lead. 41 wrong, 3 yard line wrong, inch to go wrong, 4th and 1 at bug 48 wrong

Four mistakes not five. At the end whatever six of one half a dozen of the other

edit looked back - i'm down to three stupid decisions. i swear that's as far as i'll go

 

[buffalorange]

This game wasn't on coaching. Not sure what else the offensive coaches could do to put these choke artists in a position to succeed. Yea, Marrone could have kicked a fg but I have no problem with going for it, unfortunately bad Orton showed up today and took an all day dump in the red zone.

I disagree. 1. KC demonstrated a general inability to stop the running game, so with 2nd and 3rd and two at the KC 3 yd. line, Hackett calls two pass plays. Bills settle for a field goal. 2. Bills ball, 4th and 6 INCHES. Bills don't punt or run a play. Instead, they try to create an error. Which they did...from their own offensive line. Six @*(&^ inches! 3. 1st and ten on the KC 15 yard line. 3 passes to the end zone followed by a 4th down attempt to get the 1st down. Again, what happened to the running game? What happened to moving the markers?

Fumbles happen, but this game turned on scaredy-cat, questionable, and finally, desperate coaching calls. Marrone promised Buffalo a first class NFL staff, then brought a nervously ultra-conservative college OC. I don't think Doug helped his cause with the Pegulas.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

You enjoyed that did you?

Let me know the next time you are right about something, because it'll be the first time.

Hey, you listen here, Go. You're allowed to use that line when arguing with me and me alone, got it?

 

[BuffOrange]

Just find away to watch the Bills/KC game from the beginning, this franchise feels like its cursed at times.

What time is the game? CBS for some reason showed last year's game where the Bills kicked their teeth in and turned it over on the goaline as they were going up 17-3.

Wait...what? No. Impossible.

 

[BuffOrange]

If they're gonna call the offensive PI on the Bills, why not be a pal and throw a flag on the 6-yard-out-of-bounds late hit by the Chiefs on the next play.

Feel bad complaining about the refs week over week but they are just so one-sided.

Literally the play after your crew throws a controversial, game-deciding flag and creates a 3rd and 18, they complete a 17 yard play, get drilled way out of bounds and you can't make that obvious, non-judgement call? Ridiculous. Beyond ridiculous. Not why they lost but it's just too consistent. I would love to see the refs get interviewed after the game and explain some of these things.

I'm pretty over feeling bad about it tbh. Lose straight up like they did vs the Chargers and I won't complain. The Bears/Texans/Lions/Pats/Vikings and now this game have all been brutal. The only consolation is that we somehow won three of those, and none of them really decided the game, but Jeez Louise, we're owed so many breaks at this point they may need to carry over until 2017.
That two play sequence you mention can happen in Foxboro protecting a lead, but it's especially brutal in your stadium, in front of your bench, because that happens approximately never. I only saw Spikes meekly point after the late hit; I feel like other sidelines would've gone completely ballistic. Obviously the diplomatic approach isn't doing any good; I wish Marrone would throw a headset at the ref's face.

 

[GoSU96]

This is stupid. In your world you never go for it with a lead because a fg extends the lead. 41 wrong, 3 yard line wrong, inch to go wrong, 4th and 1 at bug 48 wrong

Four mistakes not five. At the end whatever six of one half a dozen of the other

edit looked back - i'm down to three stupid decisions. i swear that's as far as i'll go

Trust me, just because YOU don't agree with the decisions doesn't make them stupid.

 

[Millhouse]

Trust me, just because YOU don't agree with the decisions doesn't make them stupid.

Thousands of games and basic statistics do

 

[Millhouse]

Boomer Eiasson did a number om Marrone on NFL show.

I didn't hear it but I'd bet a million dollars that doofus criticized Marrone for the one thing he did right (go for it on 4th an 10)

Am I right?

 

[GoSU96]

I disagree. 1. KC demonstrated a general inability to stop the running game, so with 2nd and 3rd and two at the KC 3 yd. line, Hackett calls two pass plays. Bills settle for a field goal. 2. Bills ball, 4th and 6 INCHES. Bills don't punt or run a play. Instead, they try to create an error. Which they did...from their own offensive line. Six @*(&^ inches! 3. 1st and ten on the KC 15 yard line. 3 passes to the end zone followed by a 4th down attempt to get the 1st down. Again, what happened to the running game? What happened to moving the markers?

Fumbles happen, but this game turned on scaredy-cat, questionable, and finally, desperate coaching calls. Marrone promised Buffalo a first class NFL staff, then brought a nervously ultra-conservative college OC. I don't think Doug helped his cause with the Pegulas.

Let's see, when they were passing the ball 2/3rds of the time with Orton early it wasn't enough. When they beat the Jets like a drum and play the game in front of them and try to run the ball and pass very efficiently they didn't throw enough, and now they throw the ball too much and don't run the ball enough and that is being ultra conservative.

You guys need to pick a lane.

 

[GoSU96]

Thousands of games and basic statistics do

That stuff is just one input into the decision making. You also have to play the game and opponent in front of you. Not one of the calls was "wrong".

The wrong call today was doing anything that could give KC the short field or take points off the board.

And that's what happened with the fumble through the end zone and the fumble on the punt, and that's why they lost.