In-Game Atmosphere Discussion

[David321]

We need instant replays on the jumbotron for all penalties.

 

[hungrychuck]

So you want to invent a chant using a name we haven't used in a generation. Do you also propose we do a pink and/or green-out?

So clever.

You’ll notice that sone national media types still refer to us as the Orangemen.

I haven’t heard them referencing pink and green, have you?

It’s a good brand that never should have been ditched.

And yes, I’m absolutely suggesting that it be revived.

Realize that would be from the fanbase, not the university.

But that makes it even more powerful.

 

[JRHEETER]

We need instant replays on the jumbotron for all penalties.

There is a gentleman’s rule in the ACC that they wont show replays of controversial plays……..or so I have heard….

 

[Rufus_13th]

Giants also have no cheerleaders or a mascot.

Or a head coach...

or a football team!

 

[FasterCuse]

There is a gentleman’s rule in the ACC that they wont show replays of controversial plays……..or so I have heard….

Not saying you're wrong, but I've seen them at other stadiums. I think this is an SU only thing.

 

[JRHEETER]

Not saying you're wrong, but I've seen them at other stadiums. I think this is an SU only thing.

No it’s an actual ACC thing, however, many of the other schools break the “rule”….

Again because it’s only a gentleman’s agreement and there are no ramifications if you don’t.


Many of Syracuses issues with fan environment is because they play it way too safe.

 

[hoopsupstate]

No it’s an actual ACC thing, however, many of the other schools break the “rule”….

Again because it’s only a gentleman’s agreement and there are no ramifications if you don’t.


Many of Syracuses issues with fan environment is because they play it way too safe.

It’s a reason for fans to stay home and watch on tv. I don’t understand how they rationalize not playing all replays. I guess they want fans to pull out their phones to get a replay.

 

[capeorange]

A weekend with the banana suits and shirtless fans surviving Oklahoma State

It has been a bad year for the Pokes. It hasn't stopped their fans from making their own bright spots.

www.espn.com

 

[Cusefan95]

1) SU fans are too cool for school and won't do chants or songs. I mean, just look at the responses in this thread. We are the lamest P4 fanbase in that regard. I mean that literally. I have yet to attend a CFB game that has less crowd interaction than at the Dome. Hell, most NFL games have more too. At the 2013 Final Four the Wichita State fans had 10X the energy that we did. Wichita State.

2) The only hope, and one I have advocated for years, is to hire someone away from the WWE to run in-game stuff at the Dome. There is no better company in America at generating fan interaction than the WWE.

3) We won't pursue #2 so don't bother worrying about it. SU fans love their teams and travel well. We're just impossibly lame.

I don’t think #2 is true anymore. There’s a video by WrestleMafia called “Why WWE Music Sucks Now” which talks about WWE releasing Jim Johnston in 2017 and eventually landing on Def Rebel making their music starting in 2020. It’s gone from something they were willing to invest in and that was foundational to fan experience to a business expense to be reduced as much as possible to increase profitability. While the video focuses on music, I’d say that the mentality is absolutely the post-Covid WWE philosophy. It’s the private equalization mentality of American businesses at work.

Syracuse wouldn’t need to hire someone away from WWE - they’d just need to hire someone that was integral to developing fan experience pre-2020 that WWE let go in cost cutting business decisions. However, I think #3 still applies since the philosophy of current WWE is fairly close to the philosophy at Syracuse.

 

[BKCuse]

I can boil it down to one person. "The Legend" Pete Sala

Why is it Sala’s fault?

 

[BKCuse]

Believe it or not, back in 2015(ish) HCSS brought in an outside consultant that helped build Penn State's game day environment into one of the best in the nation to help the SUAD make the game-day experience more exciting and entertaining. I personally met this consultant before a game. He stated to me that day that the Dome production staff and members of the SUAD were too comfortable in what they had always been doing to really make the changes. He was disappointed as he truly saw the Dome in-game atmosphere as having the potential to reach those PSU level atmospheres. That was 10 years ago so I am sure a lot has changed since then (or maybe not).

I remember this and I appreciate HCSS’s efforts. I think we started with the Lock ‘Em In the Dome schtick complete with sfx of metal door slamming and locking
That was pretty good. Idk why they stopped

 

[rocklloyd]

When we’re winning there is no comparison to the atmosphere we have. When we are losing it’s not awesome.

 

[richmondcuse03]

Why is it Sala’s fault?

It’s not. Sala doesn’t run the marketing side of it.

 

[HRE Otto IV]

When we’re winning there is no comparison to the atmosphere we have. When we are losing it’s not awesome.

During play, sure. The problem is we went from 2:40 breaks to 3:50 breaks. That dead time kills the atmosphere and crowd momentum. Heck even 2:40 is too long. We don't need TV breaks for a change of possession. Just have them end of quarter.

So even when we are good, you have all this dead time to fill.

 

[FrancoPizza]

During play, sure. The problem is we went from 2:40 breaks to 3:50 breaks. That dead time kills the atmosphere and crowd momentum. Heck even 2:40 is too long. We don't need TV breaks for a change of possession. Just have them end of quarter.

So even when we are good, you have all this dead time to fill.

This is actually a pretty clever idea. It's much less disruptive to have longer breaks between quarters, then to have the current stoppages during play. Reduce in-game breaks to 2:00 and make quarters 6:00 (or whatever it needs to be to offset). Just wish someone in power could make a god damn smart decision that actually improves the flow of the game for once.

 

[HRE Otto IV]

This is actually a pretty clever idea. It's much less disruptive to have longer breaks between quarters, then to have the current stoppages during play. Reduce in-game breaks to 2:00 and make quarters 6:00 (or whatever it needs to be to offset). Just wish someone in power could make a god damn smart decision that actually improves the flow of the game for once.

That is still too long IMO. I think the refs should spot the ball and start the 40 sec clock. When it gets to zero ref blows the whistle and that starts the play clock. So TV has 30 seconds to squeeze in commercials during change of possession.

For timeouts taken by the team you can have 2 mins. Then the quarters 4 mins.

The worst is when the team scores a TD, you have to wait for the PAT, then a commercial break, then a kickoff, and then another commercial break.

 

[Scooch]

During play, sure. The problem is we went from 2:40 breaks to 3:50 breaks. That dead time kills the atmosphere and crowd momentum. Heck even 2:40 is too long. We don't need TV breaks for a change of possession. Just have them end of quarter.

So even when we are good, you have all this dead time to fill.

That’s not a Dome problem. Take that up with the networks that pay the bills.

 

[007]

That is still too long IMO. I think the refs should spot the ball and start the 40 sec clock. When it gets to zero ref blows the whistle and that starts the play clock. So TV has 30 seconds to squeeze in commercials during change of possession.

For timeouts taken by the team you can have 2 mins. Then the quarters 4 mins.

The worst is when the team scores a TD, you have to wait for the PAT, then a commercial break, then a kickoff, and then another commercial break.

Yeah, it's almost like the networks expect to make money from the revenue they provide the conferences.

 

[FrancoPizza]

That’s not a Dome problem. Take that up with the networks that pay the bills.

It is a Dome problem because they suck at providing relevant content during these breaks.

 

[HRE Otto IV]

Yeah, it's almost like the networks expect to make money from the revenue they provide the conferences.

If the networks can figure out how to make money off of soccer I am sure they can figure out short commercial breaks. We just bend over and take it.

 

[Cusefan95]

It is a Dome problem because they suck at providing relevant content during these breaks.

Two different things. The length of the breaks - which is what we're talking about - is not a Dome problem.

You're shifting the goalposts to lack of content during breaks regardless of length. You'd be right - except that's not relevant to the actual discussion.

 

[Scooch]

If the networks can figure out how to make money off of soccer I am sure they can figure out short commercial breaks. We just bend over and take it.

Networks don't make enough money from soccer. That's why FIFA concocted in-game "hydration breaks" for the World Cup next summer.

 

[dollarbill44]

I remember this and I appreciate HCSS’s efforts. I think we started with the Lock ‘Em In the Dome schtick complete with sfx of metal door slamming and locking
That was pretty good. Idk why they stopped

Because back then, we couldn't get most of our opponents out of the Dome fast enough. They were having too much fun and didn’t want to leave.

 

[Cusefan95]

If the networks can figure out how to make money off of soccer I am sure they can figure out short commercial breaks. We just bend over and take it.

They figure it out by paying less for rights than if they were able to broadcast commercials like they do for football. This would require conferences and leagues to be willing to make less on TV contracts - I believe that is unlikely.

 

[HRE Otto IV]

They figure it out by paying less for rights than if they were able to broadcast commercials like they do for football. This would require conferences and leagues to be willing to make less on TV contracts - I believe that is unlikely.

The NFL has shorter breaks and gets paid more. It is all relative.

But if that is what it takes (less money) for the good of the game it should be done. It isn't like the money is being pocketed as profit. It comes in and is spent. Having less money to spend would be a good thing. Spending is out of control at these schools P4 schools.