JB can’t do this garbage with AG

[Day2]

If you feel so. Bobby Knight’s quote was disgusting because no could question him.

If I am off then I am off.

NARRATOR: He’s off.

 

[Day2]

OMG this is completely taking the point out of context.
It’s not even close the point.
The arrogance of not being able to challenge a person.

Knight’s comments were disgusting because he was saying shut up.
When people shouldn’t shut up.

You might want to shut up.

 

[Alsacs]

You might want to shut up.

You have every right to say that.
Just don’t try twisting my point into something it’s not.
If you can’t question somebody it’s saying shut up and accept it.

 

[Sudano]

It’s fairness to actually be consistent?

Tony Dungey once said I treat everyone fairly, but that doesn't mean I treat everyone the same.
Jimmie Johnson once said he had a rookie FA DB fall asleep in a meeting once and I yelled at him to leave and cut him the next day, he then had Troy Aikman fall asleep in a meeting and he quietly nudged him and told him to wake up.

 

[CuseFaninVT]

You just compared substitution patterns with rape.

That actually happened.

I’m still confused with that leap.

 

[CardiacCuse]

He should have sat him earlier. That turnover bringing the ball up the court was total laziness and lack of concentration.

he was really bad. 0-4 shooting ? its weird given his efficiency numbers from illinois...he goes through these stretches where he is perhaps THE MOST nonchalant careless player out there ...or so it seems...

when he's in one of those phases he plays the same way a player trying to throw the game would play (not saying he's doing that...just that if he was that is how he would play)

i could see people arguing over which should be in...ag or buddy...they both sucked but ag was horrific. glad he got benched. there are more than 5 players on the roster.

 

[OrlandoCuse]

If you feel so. Bobby Knight’s quote was disgusting because no could question him.

If I am off then I am off.

1. You are off on your statement. We’ll leave it at that.

2. JB gets criticized all the time. I posted that he needed to get his head out of his a$$ after Rutgers because he substitutions were horrible and cost us the game.

What you are really calling into question is who can hold JB accountable? Accountability and criticism are related, but someone can only hold someone accountable if they have a direct relationship and involvement in the same event/issue/action/etc.

JB can be criticized by anyone, he just doesn’t care.

He can really only be held accountable by the AD or SU Board of Directors. Nobody else really matters.

Regardless, that really doesn’t matter, because a head coach has full autonomy on things like who he plays. So accountability really doesn’t apply here. But criticize JB all you want.

 

[Day2]

You are trying to make this into something I am not doubling down.

My god if you don’t get the point ask before you pull this bull routine.

You can repeat and defend yourself over and over. It won’t change the fact that you compared substitution patterns to rape. It won’t change the fact that you argued that Knight’s comments about rape and the idea that JB can’t be questioned are equally disgusting. It won’t get a set of steak knives either.

Take a TO, baby.

 

[Newhouser]

Both Griff and Buddy were awful. I would have sat them both and rode with 2 frosh. Again though, Buddy is not sitting. Ever.

 

[W'boro'Cuse315]

Haven’t read through this thread yet but OP coming in stupid hot with the title. Color me intrigued.

 

[orange79]

I am not directing this at you but the argument you are making is very similar to what Bobby Knight said about rape.

 

[UpstateSM]

You can repeat and defend yourself over and over. It won’t change the fact that you compared substitution patterns to rape. It won’t change the fact that you argued that Knight’s comments about rape and the idea that JB can’t be questioned are equally disgusting. It won’t get a set of steak knives either.

Take a TO, baby.

Did I miss Knight’s comments being discussed on the board tonight? Haha

 

[Alsacs]

You can repeat and defend yourself over and over. It won’t change the fact that you compared substitution patterns to rape. It won’t change the fact that you argued that Knight’s comments about rape and the idea that JB can’t be questioned are equally disgusting. It won’t get a set of steak knives either.

Take a TO, baby.

I probably should have picked a different quote because now I have to deal with this crap which is my fault but don’t take my point and spin into something it’s not.

 

[chugg21]

I didn't realize he was benching Melo. I love griff but the guy has been here 5 minutes and he was bad today. He has every right to sit him.

As was Buddy and he contributes essentially nothing when his shots not falling.

 

[NateW]

Is this thread real life?

 

[CuseFaninVT]

I probably should have picked a different quote because now I have to deal with this crap which is my fault but don’t take my point and spin into something it’s not.

I’m past it.

What I’m struggling with is the apparent need to keep Joe on the floor in an earlier game despite horrific shooting and a complete disinterest in defense, but Allen has to sit and get called out for a similar performance.

 

[OrlandoCuse]

I probably should have picked a different quote because now I have to deal with this crap which is my fault but don’t take my point and spin into something it’s not.

Life is all about learning lessons.

 

[W'boro'Cuse315]

I probably should have picked a different quote because now I have to deal with this crap which is my fault but don’t take my point and spin into something it’s not.

I’ve got to say, I respect you. You always take ownership, right or wrong. I appreciate your takes & how vehemently you defend them with facts.

 

[jdubs30]

We’ve seen Buddy be ice cold and catch absolute fire at a moments notice. The fair question to ask if his last name wasn’t Boeheim would he get that much of a leash. JG3 seems to have a similar exception

 

[Alsacs]

I’ve got to say, I respect you. You always take ownership, right or wrong. I appreciate your takes & how vehemently you defend them with facts.

I said it so I opened myself to the comments from others.
My point was directed at what OrlandoCuse was saying.
I didn’t compare JB or anyone to what was said to me.
I should have picked a different analogy but I didn’t so If you get in the kitchen you better be able to take the heat.

 

[Cuse69]

AG is a better rebounder and defender than buddy, at the least they should've split the minutes

 

[20plus]

Griffin had three turnovers to Buddy’s one, zero points to Buddy’s two.

Who missed more shots?

Has half as many rebounds ?
Half as many steals ?

it’s not even close when you miss double-digit shots and don’t get rebounds or steals your plus minus is terrible

 

[20plus]

AG is a better rebounder and defender than buddy, at the least they should've split the minutes

Exactly anybody who is arguing that Buddy had a better performance than Alan is delusional

 

[20plus]

Who missed more shots?

Has half as many rebounds ?
Half as many steals ?

it’s not even close when you miss double-digit shots and don’t get rebounds or steals your plus minus is terrible

Another thing I would rather see a player have an off night and take five shots and have an off night and take 12 or 13 so whatever

 

[lindros2]

Sit him for a little stretch, sure. What JB did just wasn’t right to do to a player of this caliber. We would have secured the win much sooner, had he put AG back in. Not right.

were you watching the same game as we were?
after he threw a ball to no one behind the basket, he was done.