Kadary Richmond...

[SUFan44]

Did buddy lose minutes last night?

Joe Girard lost a lot of minutes last night.

 

[CuseFaninVT]

I am more so impressed by his defense. It is outstanding and something that Buddy/JGIII could learn from. KR always has his hands up and comes up on the ball handler. This is something Buddy/JGIII NEVER do. It's like they are very lazy in their defense. It's annoying to no end and very noticeable.

Yeah, I don't know about the hands thing. It was more than halfway through the first half before I noticed him getting his arms up, clearly at the prodding of the coaching staff. I made comments among others in the game thread stating the same. As I said though, he got better all along that game. But still needing some reminding from Quincy.

 

[MSOrange]

Joe Girard lost a lot of minutes last night.

Agree. I think that is the more likely scenario although Buddy might get a few more minutes rest also.

 

[Oakland]

Buddy, JG, Battle, Frank Howard and everyone else on the team for years has been terrible at the behind the back dribble - we are due to have someone who can do it reliably.

Am I way off on this or was Kadary the lead guard for a good chunk of the game last night? When the game tipped I honestly didn't even realize that Kadary was on the floor because he was hanging around on the perimeter and not really coming to the ball. By the second half, after Kadary got some confidence, it seemed to me that Kadary was the one bringing the ball up the floor and initiating the offense. Also the team was looking for Kadary to transition them from defense to offense.

What's interesting is last year against UVA the first thing I noticed about JG3 was that whenever he was on the floor he was the dude the team looked for to bring the ball up and get the offense set up. It didn't matter whether either Carey or Goodine was on the floor with him. It was pretty obvious from game one that JG3 was the best lead guard on the team and it was a matter of when not if he would take that role on.

I don't see that same level of separation between Kadary and JG3 yet... also I would love to see the Kadary hit a jumper or two. Has he hit a 3 yet? I also think that while Kadary's pet behind the back dribble move can work against the Niagara's of the world, he's begging to be pick-pocketed against ACC guards.

JG3 has earned the right to lose the lead guard spot over multiple games... I saw more flashes from him yesterday than I did in game 1. But I do agree he looks sluggish and what little lift he had on his J seems to be completely gone. He seemed to be shooting a set shot in the 2nd half so I'm guessing his legs aren't there.

 

[Killdozer]

Yeah, I don't know about the hands thing. It was more than halfway through the first half before I noticed him getting his arms up, clearly at the prodding of the coaching staff. I made comments among others in the game thread stating the same. As I said though, he got better all along that game. But still needing some reminding from Quincy.

Totally disagree. I noticed his defense right away and it certainly didn't come from the coaching staff as they never "prod" Buddy to play any defense. He is the worse defender of all college basketball

 

[rojamon]

If Kadary keeps playing well, I don’t know why Girard should get an equal third.

I agree. You could see his confidence growing as the game progressed, and to think, this was just his first start. I just wonder if JB would keep him in the starting lineup even after Buddy returns? I know I would.

 

[CuseFaninVT]

Totally disagree. I noticed his defense right away and it certainly didn't come from the coaching staff as they never "prod" Buddy to play any defense. He is the worse defender of all college basketball

I had forgotten you aren’t a serious poster. Thanks for the reminder.

 

[Killdozer]

I had forgotten you aren’t a serious poster. Thanks for the reminder.

Oh I see, you are the poster that lords over all others and your opinion is always the correct one. Very childish post by you.

 

[Cusesky8214]

 

[CuseTG2003]

Buddy's gonna get some great looks.

 

[orangeinnyc]

I won’t sugarcoat it here as I saw the same thing most anyone watching it did. He’s the type of PG we need with this team. Clearly can pass and penetrate and finish at a high level. Joe G def must feel the heat coming but we need to find a way to utilize both of them as that will lead to the most team success. I think having Joe start but then kadary come off the bench aka dion in 2012.But there clearly is going to be a 3 guard rotation this year, kadary is just too good and brings a skill set this team really needs. Joe will get his chances though, he needs to be able to knock down jumpers, especially in transition and on kick outs. We can be truly dangerous since we’ll have numerous ball handlers on the court who can push it and feed in transition, marek, kadary, joe, Ag can all do it. But kadary gives us a dimension we have been missing for years. His ability to drive is going to pay huge dividends for everyone on the team.

 

[Cusesky8214]

Buddy's gonna get some great looks.

JG3 will benefit greatly from Kadary running the point as well. Idk how JB will handle this going forward but Kadary needs to keep shining during this time Buddy is out so it makes it difficult for JB to keep him on the bench. He brings things to this team that no one else has and it was nice watching someone who resembled a PG actually play the position last night. Often times when buddy/JG3 handle the ball in our half court offense the ball sticks/they dont get by their defenders/etc and it seems like it results in a bad shot late in the clock. Our shooters will benefit greatly from a player like Kadary...everyone will. Hope he takes advantage of this situation and makes it impossible for JB to keep him off the court! JG3 has been awful but I'm definitely not ready to throw him away...kid is a baller and likes to take big shots. Going to need that from him. Just not sure we need to see him or buddy play the same roles they did last season.

 

[OrangeDW]

Those ACC network condensed highlights on YouTube are dry as hell. I was going to send it to every Cuse fan I know, who I suspect wasn’t watching last night but they got like 2 Kadary plays. Don’t even have his steal and layup. Who gets paid to put those things together, and how do I get that job? Do I have to have Food Lion on my resume, as one of my first jobs?

 

[OttoinGrotto]

Those ACC network condensed highlights on YouTube are dry as hell. I was going to send it to every Cuse fan I know, who I suspect wasn’t watching last night but they got like 2 Kadary plays. Don’t even have his steal and layup. Who gets paid to put those things together, and how do I get that job? Do I have to have Food Lion on my resume, as one of my first jobs?

Bojangles, actually.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

Oh I see, you are the poster that lords over all others and your opinion is always the correct one. Very childish post by you.

He is, he's a very noble Lord.

 

[IthacaMatt]

Kadary is our best guard

At first I hit "like" on this, but I think it's fair to say that he's our most dynamic guard.
Buddy is a damn good shooter. Don't ask him to play too much defense, and he can be deadly.
But don't lose on defense just to keep a shooter in the game, just because he might get hot or hit a late shot.

The last time I check, three or four more baskets during the entire game are more important than just hitting one late. That used to drive me crazy about how he played Gerry through so many 5-17 games, but sure enough, he often hit those late ones. Which one is better, in the long run? We remember the game-winning shots, but shouldn't we also remember misses?

It's like John Starks in that game against the Houston Rockets, that one year Ewing and Olajuwan dueled in the Finals. John Starks should never be in that position to miss his 16th three point attempt in Game 7.

Why does the coach keep playing people in those situations? People have bad days. Play the other guys. Give them a chance. That's why they go to practice, too!

 

[IthacaMatt]

I think it's because of how Boeheim's rotations have worked in the past decade. We talk about the Triche, Scoop, Dion rotation but that was one year eight years ago now. It seems like these days, especially at the guard position, the starters are getting a minimum of 35 minutes per game, so there isn't much room for a reserve to get meaningful playing time. It's literally one guy or the other, as a true guard rotation doesn't exist.

That's true. But it's still valid to point out what a great year that was.

Coincidence? I don't think so.

Dion for 35 minutes might have become too selfish, playing for his draft position.

Triche played very physical defense and likely would have fouled out if he played 35 minutes every game.

Scoop was great by his later seasons, but he was never the best conditioned guy out there, and he benefitted from watching the game next to coach in his later years. He was more effective from watching, then playing.

So was Dion. He learned to analyze the defense so he knew what to do as soon as he went out there. You might say, "well, he's that good" - but you still have to play a thinking person's game to excel at this level.

Say what you want but Dion showed himself to be a good teammate that sophomore year. He learned some humility, and became (1) more draftable, and (2) sixth man of the year. And of course a lottery pick.

So, rotations can be a good thing. Each of those guys had some limitations, but together they were a great group.

 

[IthacaMatt]

Totally disagree. I noticed his defense right away and it certainly didn't come from the coaching staff as they never "prod" Buddy to play any defense. He is the worse defender of all college basketball

Carey used to be terrific on defense. He could have been Jason Hart level of elite defenders
Such a shame it didn't work out.

 

[Cusefan0307]

At first I hit "like" on this, but I think it's fair to say that he's our most dynamic guard.
Buddy is a damn good shooter. Don't ask him to play too much defense, and he can be deadly.
But don't lose on defense just to keep a shooter in the game, just because he might get hot or hit a late shot.

The last time I check, three or four more baskets during the entire game are more important than just hitting one late. That used to drive me crazy about how he played Gerry through so many 5-17 games, but sure enough, he often hit those late ones. Which one is better, in the long run? We remember the game-winning shots, but shouldn't we also remember misses?

It's like John Starks in that game against the Houston Rockets, that one year Ewing and Olajuwan dueled in the Finals. John Starks should never be in that position to miss his 16th three point attempt in Game 7.

Why does the coach keep playing people in those situations? People have bad days. Play the other guys. Give them a chance. That's why they go to practice, too!

Starks was actually 0-11 from 3. He finished 2-18. He had an all-star season and was MVP and better than Ewing in the finals until that game. I do believe there’s certain guys you ride, but we haven’t had many of those guys the past 5 years.

 

[FRANKIEFAN]

Carey used to be terrific on defense. He could have been Jason Hart level of elite defenders
Such a shame it didn't work out.

Nah if you suck you suck. We got one good game fromJalen otherwise unplayable.

He was so bad we couldn’t even let Buddy collect himself vs Baylor cause he’d turn it over every possession.

Kadary is better than his stat line. Probably doesn’t shoot the 3 well enough to carry the team. But good smart player that might be good enough to sit Buddy and Joe.

Buttgers game will be fun.

Kadary is a defense first Dion.

 

[CuseMan4]

I really think this team has some pieces of Quincy keeps up his play and Kadary gets 20+ minutes a game. Buddy and Griffin will benefit ATON from Kadary running point. Will be interesting to see what JB does because Kadary in the lineup we are head and shoulders better.

 

[Red Holzman]

After performance vs Niagara, anxious to see Kadary (and Woody) get more good minutes vs Rider.
Can't remember the last time I looked forward so much to one of these early tune-up games!
Glad SU is playing -nice diversion from all the other "stuff" going on!

 

[Sherman20]

For Ennis, Cooney, and Silent G in 2014 (all according to basketball-reference) we had Ennis playing 35 and Cooney playing 32, but Gbinije still managed to average 14.5 a game.

Then in 2016-2017 We had Gillon and Battle playing 30 mins with Sophmore Howard averaging 16.2. And that was with 4 solid guys locked in at the frontcourt much like this year. White, Thompson, Lydon and Roberson vs. Griffin, Dolezaj, Guerrier, and Sidibe.

I think a slight tweak on the minutes in these two fairly recent years is what people are looking for in the Buddy, JGIII, Kadary rotation right? I think it wouldn't be too out of character for Boeheim to do (AT LEAST) close to what we had in 2016-17 with Buddy and Girard averaging 30 and Kadary averaging 16. Wouldn't be surprised if it ended up being more even than that year was, as Battle/Gillon is a lot more formidable a guard duo than Buddy/Girard.

If Girard averages 30 mpg and Kadary 16, I’ll eat my hat. Kadary should be getting 25-30mpg this season.

 

[Zelda Zonk]

I'm tellin ya.

When he starts dropping those pull-up midrange jumpers...

 

[Zelda Zonk]

Given KR's performance and what JB has said in the past about players getting tired, this is a surprising thing for him to say. But JB says a lot of nonsense. Its almost as if he is pre-conditioning everyone for him to continue playing JG 35 min a game.

Sign me up for playing a 'tired' KR if he is performing this well.

[Boeheim: "Kadary gets tired pretty quickly, but he has tremendous skills. He has to get himself in better shape, but he showed the tools (he has)."

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This was something i think i asked about in his recruiting thread. There were games where he was the best/second best player on the team, but wasn't on the court a commensurate amount. And when he was there, didn't display a 'high motor.' And i wondered if he had some sort of conditioning problem—not a lack of conditioning, but a minor medical thing. Because that's something i've had all my life—i was a very good athlete, but i was never able to develop even average stamina. I hope that's not the case here, but the way JB said that, and with the conditioning and practice regimens the whole team should be subject to, it would be odd for one player to be singled out that way.

Anyway, i didn't see any of those issues yesterday. Looking forward to tomorrow, cuz i think this kid is going to get better as he develops and gets confidence in the outside shot. Spending a lot of time in the gym with GMac, Joe, and Buddy should benefit him.