Kansas Can, SU Couldn't Postgame Thread

[PoppyHart]

Rebounding is important, but this is a game you win with better shooting. They didn’t lose the rebounding margin by much when you factor in all the missed shots and offensive rebounds.

Every game is a game you win with better shooting.

 

[CuseBlood44]

Jeez, relax. It’s not even Thanksgiving

Casual take. Anyone who has been paying attention to the NET and tourney selection last few years knows you need these. ACC doesn’t get the respect it used to

 

[23Zone]

Seeing this team without Freeman unearthed an absolute offensive travesty. If he is out for the season or a prolonged time, we are doomed.

Shouldn't be surprised. We have a head coach trying to learn on the job, very similar to the football coaching situation. Hard to win without a track record of winning. Recruiting doesn't equate to coaching. Just seems like Red runs around the sideline substituting people nonstop without an actual strategy or game plan. It's not good .

Tough being a Cuse fan these days

 

[Cusefan0307]

When one team misses 53 shots(including ft’s) and the other misses 32 chances are the team that misses 53 is going to get outrebounded. The % is about in line to both teams misses.

 

[rocklloyd]

We are flawed team. Have fixed some glaring issues from prior years but have regressed with free throws and amazingly become worse shooting from 3pt line. I don’t feel confident with one person on this team to shoot ft, maybe Donnie? Our best shot to win games is tempo from start to finish. We will lose games trying to burn clock.

 

[Sherman20]

Tomorrow is a must win. Tennessee is probably a need to have too or you’re looking at having to win about 13 ACC games.

Mind boggling how bad offensively we are. Missing Donnie isn’t an excuse. It’s still all high P&R and ISO ball.

We got much better movement and screening actions in the first few games but we were still too stagnant. Granted, Houston has the #1 defense and Kansas is top 10 so we were gonna be challenged on that side of the court. Autry puts so much emphasis on defense, and we’re looking a lot better there, but he clearly doesn’t spend enough time on teaching and emphasizing ball movement and off ball screening actions. We run plays at times but it’s never consistent. He’s not going to succeed as a coach if he can’t do better there. He either needs to change concepts, teach the players better, or hire an offensive coordinator if he can’t do it himself. He’s following JB’s lack of creativity and iso ball reliance and that’s gonna cost him his job if he can’t figure it out. Hopefully getting Donnie back helps.

 

[swish7]

I see we are at the denial phase. Ribbing on posters who are frustrated with a coach or players does jickety / jack to help our players make better choices.

 

[althea]

I think the plan is(was) to have Donnie in at the 5 late in the game. Not having Donnie disrupts the whole chemistry.

 

[Jake]

It’s a really weird team. Lots of athleticism, very little shooting. It’s 100% opposite of the Boeheim Bunch teams.

FT shooting is really a concern. This team has two key players that cannot be guaranteed to hit the rim. That’s a ginormous flaw. Donnie has to play the 5 at end of games.

For all the defense, we don’t turn stops into transition baskets. And then we get into 1/2 court offense and it stalls.

I don’t know what to think of Kingz. Pretty shot, just doesn’t fall. He’s been more effective attacking the glass.

Kiyan- ugh. Very concerned here. He’s not doing anything in the flow of the offense. He was a complete ball stopper today. Trying to operate clear outs against plus athletes who knew he was not giving it up. He battled hard to get a couple buckets, but that is not winning basketball.

Agree with those who are confused by what George is doing- he’s not making his teammates better. I’m not sure if he’s not confident in his teammates or what.

We missed a ton of inside shots too. Didn’t finish through contract for the most part. Very disappointing.

As far as Red goes, I think my biggest issue that I have with him is that he doesn’t use the bench as a teaching tool. I know people hated watching JB pull kids, but ffs it sends a message. Watching players take bad shots and “play through it”….sends a message that it’s okay. There’s a happy medium.

This team’s defense is good enough. No doubt. We just struggle to score and we essentially lose 5-10 pts against good teams because we can’t shoot fts.

 

[OrlandoCuse]

Casual take. Anyone who has been paying attention to the NET and tourney selection last few years knows you need these. ACC doesn’t get the respect it used to

ACC stunk the last few years. That doesn’t appear to be the case this year.

 

[Sherman20]

If it is by points we may not be in the bottom as we will be one of the higher ranked 0-2 teams as we didnt really get blown out.

Yeah my prediction is that we play Creighton.

 

[phil77]

ACC stunk the last few years. That doesn’t appear to be the case this year.

We will see what happens in the ACC/SEC challenge coming up we need the ACC to have a good showing overall.

 

[CuseLegacy]

 

[swish7]

Need players to make better decisions in transition & by better decision I mean pull it back and execute an offensive set.

 

[sufan59]

The road conference schedule is particularly difficult for Syracuse

 

[Sherman20]

Guys we are going to win alot in the acc.

I agree that we can win games in the ACC. But why is Red repeating the JB mistake of running lackadaisical offensive actions and then simply reverting to iso ball or a high screen and roll? That’s one reason Syracuse regressed during the later years of JB’s tenure. There’s no creativity on offense. If I was Red, the first thing I would have done is hire an offensive guru as an assistant after Gmac left, not freakin Dan Englestad, who was a failed low major head coach and not known as a great recruiter.

 

[CuseIn282xx]

Why can't we have Coach GMAC show the guys how to shoot 3's and FT's?

Wait, what?

 

[Sherman20]

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JJ, Kiyan, and Kingz might want to consider a future in masonry if hoops doesn't work out. They laid enough bricks tonight to build a new wing on the MGM Grand.

JJ 3-13 FG, 2-6 3FG
Kiyan 2-12 FG, 0-6 3FG
Kingz 3-9 FG, 1-5 3FG

They’re not getting enough good 3-point shots in the flow of the offense. We need way more motion in the offense and cutters flying through the lane and moving along the baseline. That’s why the shots aren’t going down. To quote Seth Greenberg, you need to shoot 3s when you have room and rhythm. And the guys need to be ready to catch the ball as soon as the pass comes to them at the 3-point line. Jay Wright always emphasized that with his Nova teams.

 

[Jake]

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They’re not getting get enough 3-point shots in the flow of the offense. We need way more motion in the offense and cutters flying through the lane and moving along the baseline. That’s why the shots aren’t going down. To quote Seth Greenberg, you need to shoot 3s when you have room and rhythm. And the guys need to be ready to catch the ball as soon as the pass comes. Jay Wright always emphasized that with his Nova teams.

Preach.

 

[richmondcuse03]

It’s a really weird team. Lots of athleticism, very little shooting. It’s 100% opposite of the Boeheim Bunch teams.

FT shooting is really a concern. This team has two key players that cannot be guaranteed to hit the rim. That’s a ginormous flaw. Donnie has to play the 5 at end of games.

For all the defense, we don’t turn stops into transition baskets. And then we get into 1/2 court offense and it stalls.

I don’t know what to think of Kingz. Pretty shot, just doesn’t fall. He’s been more effective attacking the glass.

Kiyan- ugh. Very concerned here. He’s not doing anything in the flow of the offense. He was a complete ball stopper today. Trying to operate clear outs against plus athletes who knew he was not giving it up. He battled hard to get a couple buckets, but that is not winning basketball.

Agree with those who are confused by what George is doing- he’s not making his teammates better. I’m not sure if he’s not confident in his teammates or what.

We missed a ton of inside shots too. Didn’t finish through contract for the most part. Very disappointing.

As far as Red goes, I think my biggest issue that I have with him is that he doesn’t use the bench as a teaching tool. I know people hated watching JB pull kids, but ffs it sends a message. Watching players take bad shots and “play through it”….sends a message that it’s okay. There’s a happy medium.

This team’s defense is good enough. No doubt. We just struggle to score and we essentially lose 5-10 pts against good teams because we can’t shoot fts.

Key issue. Has to change.

 

[hoopsupstate]

I just don’t see how we make the tournament without a signature OOC win. Tennessee is a must have game.

We’re not beating the Vols. They’ve totally clamped down on Houston. Shut them out for over seven minutes. The Vols have ball movers. Our bigs are the only ball movers we have.

 

[CuseBlood44]

ACC stunk the last few years. That doesn’t appear to be the case this year.

True but can you see Cuse going 13-5 in ACC? I can’t

 

[phil77]

We’re not beating the Vols. They’ve totally clamped down on Houston. Shut them out for over seven minutes. The Vols have ball movers. Our bigs are the only ball movers we have.

Out of the big 3 we had on our schedule Houston/Kansas/Tennessee, I thought Tennessee was the team we had the worst match up with. I thought the style of play of the other teams was better for us. I think Tennessee will be a very very tough game.

 

[OrlandoCuse]

True but can you see Cuse going 13-5 in ACC? I can’t

Way too early to tell. We were 1 play from beating a top 5 team. Played like crap today because the team was gassed, but was still competitive despite playing a very subpar game.

I think we steal a few Q1 wins. I can see us getting anywhere from 11 to 14 wins in the ACC.

3 out of conference losses vs Houston, Kansas and potentially Tennessee won’t kill our resume.

 

[CuseBlood44]

Way too early to tell. We were 1 play from beating a top 5 team. Played like crap today because the team was gassed, but was still competitive despite playing a very subpar game.

I think we steal a few Q1 wins. I can see us getting anywhere from 11 to 14 wins in the ACC.

3 out of conference losses vs Houston, Kansas and potentially Tennessee won’t kill our resume.

Gassed? Really? That’s the excuse?

Both Cuse and Kansas played back to back days. These are athletes in the prime condition and we brought a strength and conditioning coach in who worked them hard all offseason (or so we think based on the marketing they put on social media).

We lost because the consistent effort and shooting wasn’t there tonight, we didn’t rebound well, we have zero offensive identity yet again, and we cant hit FTs. Watch this Houston Tennessee game and imagine Cuse is Tennessee at the end. We easily blow it due to FT shooting. Thats the difference between being a tourney team or an NIT team for Cuse