Kyle McCord to NFL Draft

[Smith14krac]

Sorry, I was kidding, we've been talking about it for weeks.

I knew it was a rumor but didn't think it actually had any traction

 

[Killdozer]

A little late to the game...like 2 months

 

[dasher]

"Anonymous Source" is now an acceptable default for journalists. One could technically be their own Anonymous Source and chat whatever sht they want.

This is why nobody really takes media outlets seriously anymore... fool my once shame on me, fool me for decades..

Not really. The anonymous source is not anonymous to the journalist's boss or editor. They always know who the source is. For example, Ben Bradlee knew who deep throat was. And without the use of anonymous sources, half the vital news that we learn wouldn't have been made available to us. The vast majority of newspeople are honest and hard working.

 

[Smith14krac]

Sorry, I was kidding, we've been talking about it for weeks.

I knew it was a rumor but didn't think it actually had any tractuon

 

[HRE Otto IV]

 

[OttosShoes]

There's a bunch of odd stuff and mum confidence. That's hard to explain. Here's my [purely speculative with zero insider information] best attempt to explain it all:

I think we really don't know the result of the appeal. 50/50 is a reasonable guess when you really don't have an idea.

At the same time, with stakes this high 50/50 is something that is worth suing over if it comes to it. Why wouldn't they already have a firm on retainer with a suit drawn up, ready to file the second the appeal gets rejected? That's consistent with the 'all avenues' type of rhetoric, and also with the 'no specifics' embargo the team is pretty clearly under.

Thing is, lawsuits are usually a *huge* question mark and risk for stuff that is 50/50. How will the judge look at this, how will they interpret that? Meanwhile, Diego rolled the dice and found out in a clear and decisive way. Maybe there's some interpretation in there that 'Cuse lawyers really liked which inspires a lot of confidence and/or can be used as precedent.

TL;DR: Based on the secrecy and coy but positive vibes, my guess is they really don't know about the appeal. But that they also don't really care about the appeal, because they've got about as close to a checkmate situation as they could reasonably have.

 

[storange]

I knew it was a rumor but didn't think it actually had any tractuon

You can say that again !

 

[HRE Otto IV]

There's a bunch of odd stuff and mum confidence. That's hard to explain. Here's my [purely speculative with zero insider information] best attempt to explain it all:

I think we really don't know the result of the appeal. 50/50 is a reasonable guess when you really don't have an idea.

At the same time, with stakes this high 50/50 is something that is worth suing over if it comes to it. Why wouldn't they already have a firm on retainer with a suit drawn up, ready to file the second the appeal gets rejected? That's consistent with the 'all avenues' type of rhetoric, and also with the 'no specifics' embargo the team is pretty clearly under.

Thing is, lawsuits are usually a *huge* question mark and risk for stuff that is 50/50. How will the judge look at this, how will they interpret that? Meanwhile, Diego rolled the dice and found out in a clear and decisive way. Maybe there's some interpretation in there that 'Cuse lawyers really liked which inspires a lot of confidence and/or can be used as precedent.

TL;DR: Based on the secrecy and coy but positive vibes, my guess is they really don't know about the appeal. But that they also don't really care about the appeal, because they've got about as close to a checkmate situation as they could reasonably have.

Diego had nothing to lose. If the case went against him, he goes off to be a HS FB Asst Coach. Kyle has more at stake as he needs a resolution by the NFL draft deadline. Otherwise he has to wait to be a FA.

 

[bigmike]

“They didn’t know. It’s not their fault”

Just too soon…

 

[OttosShoes]

Diego had nothing to lose. If the case went against him, he goes off to be a HS FB Asst Coach. Kyle has more at stake as he needs a resolution by the NFL draft deadline. Otherwise he has to wait to be a FA.

This is true. Draft deadline is Feb 7th. Thing is, Diego went from filing to injunction Nov 8th to Dec 18th, pretty quick.

In my theoretical situation, if NCAA doesn't have a decision for the appeal by, say, next Friday, that's as good as a denial, pull the trigger on the suit. If there's no injunction by, say, Feb 1st, that's as good as losing, withdraw the suit and stay in the draft.

Also explains why this has dragged out so long. Delays clearly favor the NCAA.

 

[hoopsupstate]

I don’t think this is anything about the appeal. It’s about when the NCAA wants to announce 5 to play 5. Kyle has no grounds for an appeal. It’s been written by several players around the country that they lost their appeals by taking only two snaps in a game five, thereby losing their redshirts.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

 

[CNYGuy]

I love Steve and this isn’t meant to single him out. But I think it’s pretty funny that we have been talking about this for weeks. Twitter Joes have been very openly talking about it. Directly asking McCord, insiders and journalists.

The ONLY thing from any journalist was an accidental link that had a picture headline that said McCord granted 5th year in an article that had nothing to do with McCord 5th year.

On Dec 19th, finally Brian Higgins asks McCord what’s up.

And now every cuse journalist is like “my sources can confirm”

let’s not act like everything talked about on this board ends up being right. Dan Mullen “was at practice” this week last year… and a reporter also screwed that up.

 

[FloridaCuse]

If this isn't decided by then, I hope the uncertainty doesn't affect Kyle's play in the bowl game.

 

[Jeremy L.]

Syracuse basketball can sit in purgatory for the next 6 years if it means #6 comes back for one last ride. I’m all in on this. LFG boys

 

[Toga]

In the event SU wanted to "advise" the NCAA they fully intended to pursue legal options, would they involve outside counsel or stay in house?

 

[FloridaCuse]

Syracuse basketball can sit in purgatory for the next 6 years if it means #6 comes back for one last ride. I’m all in on this. LFG boys

Does Syracuse still have a basketball team?

 

[storange]

Im assuming by availability, they
mean available for interviews?

 

[qdawgg]

First time he hasn’t been available all season, apparently.

 

[ImperialOrange]

Not really. The anonymous source is not anonymous to the journalist's boss or editor. They always know who the source is. For example, Ben Bradlee knew who deep throat was. And without the use of anonymous sources, half the vital news that we learn wouldn't have been made available to us. The vast majority of newspeople are honest and hard working.

You're citing a 1972 story here... was a vastly different world and even then hindsight shows not exactly a transparent one.

Point isn't that what is currently accepted was always the case but editors aren't even a guarantee at this point. More times than not actual Anonymous sources are outted anymore. Whistle blowers face repercussions constantly anymore. It's now a gotcha world and if you ain't first You're last... facts be damned IMHO.

Comes down to the level of integrity one believes a source to operate under and this is likely where we deviate based on lived experiences. That's perfectly acceptable as well obviously.

 

[FloridaCuse]

First time he hasn’t been available all season, apparently.

Maybe he's been advised not to say anything else regarding the "appeal".

 

[javadoc]

Maybe he's been advised not to say anything else regarding the "appeal".

Spider sense tingling

 

[FasterCuse]

First time he hasn’t been available all season, apparently.

Need to finish up those final exams so his academically eligible next semester and going forward.

 

[DoctahLexus]

your board name actually reminded me... the best indicator of McCords will be Vegas odds. when do next seasons odds drop?

The same Vegas that said we would win 6 games this season?

 

[Red2003]

That Smirking Whore from High Garden. - The NCAA talking about Kyle right now.