LeQuint Allen is Back

[GoSU96]

The players should shut it down. Fix this or we are out

the punishment way outweighs the crime. This is an injustice on its face.

 

[RF2044]

So what does everyone think the end result will be? I say the school never folds even in cases like this when they look awful. LaQuint is done here.

I'm going to go against the grain. Based upon the information presented, if those are the entirety of the facts that occurred in this scenario, then I think Allen has a strong chance to get an injunction [or whatever], because the penalty seems way out of whack. Common sense has to legally prevail over a university judicial board's judgement.

I don't think it will hold up that such severe penalties fit the infraction AS REPORTED, or support that an athlete needs to be made an example of.

But again -- that's based upon what has been reported being the full story. And whether Allen is a first time offender in terms of university infractions. If this is a first issue, then he shouldn't be kicked out for two semesters -- too harsh. But if there's a pattern of bad behavior, then the punishment might take that into consideration and factor into the penalty.

But just going on the info that's been presented, I think he has a good chance to get a stay. Doesn't mean that the situation will be fully resolved, but I'd expect him to be reinstated for summer / fall, while this situation gets worked out.

 

[MSOrange]

Still a very different situation than someone who is right in your face in a tight room throwing multiple punches. Carter did actually have an opportunity to deescalate. Allen was defending himself as all of us would have in that situation.

I wasn't debating that point.

 

[shandeezy7]

Looks like we just found one member of the judicial board. Lol!

There are plenty of avenues to take (none that I think will likely work) that don't involve doxxing a college student like you're a 14 year old mad about getting worked in Call of Duty.

 

[DoctahLexus]

I wasn't debating that point.

Oh yeah I know you were not.

 

[baggerbob]

The players should shut it down. Fix this or we are out

the punishment way outweighs the crime. This is an injustice on its face.

Actually the entire system needs to be shut down, students who are not trained in law shouldn't be in position to suspend anyone.
That was part of the DA's problem, their decisions have no basis in fairness.

 

[dcorangeMEN]

There are plenty of avenues to take (none that I think will likely work) that don't involve doxxing a college student like you're a 14 year old mad about getting worked in Call of Duty.

So Allen should try all the friendly stuff that won’t work, miss a year of football, and potentially a crap ton of NIL money? NIL money could be life changing for him. If those college students never did anything presenting bias they have nothing to worry about. Otherwise, they absolutely should be doxxed and crushed online for trying to ruin a fellow college kids life.

 

[FrancoPizza]

Why not? You haven’t seen people getting ‘canceled’ on social media?? My assumption is that his lawyers are already doing this. Should we not follow the lead of our top notch politicians??

You mean the same lawyer that told him to plead guilty? His lawyers failed him.

 

[NYCCuse826]

Actually the entire system needs to be shut down, students who are not trained in law shouldn't be in position to suspend anyone.
That was part of the DA's problem, their decisions have no basis in fairness.

This. It's not just an athlete problem. Unelected students have been giving extrajudicial authority over the entire student body. It's absurd. If you want students to do this, they should be from the College of Law; not someone who I sat next to in Econ 201.

 

[Newhouser]

The players should shut it down. Fix this or we are out

the punishment way outweighs the crime. This is an injustice on its face.

That would be an interesting move by the players. I'm sure they could find some other social injustice tie ins that would make the school quiver above and beyond this (apparent) over reaction.

 

[OrangeDW]

So Allen should try all the friendly stuff that won’t work, miss a year of football, and potentially a crap ton of NIL money? NIL money could be life changing for him. If those college students never did anything presenting bias they have nothing to worry about. Otherwise, they absolutely should be doxxed and crushed online for trying to ruin a fellow college kids life.

NIL money…..he should be pressing up “Free LeQuint” t-shirts as we speak.

 

[PhatOrange]

You can’t have arbitrary penalties. Punishments and suspensions need to have written policies. The student judicial board should have to show they’ve handled every fight penalty the same way or I think they have a problem and be open to a civil suit.

 

[OrangeDW]

This. It's not just an athlete problem. Unelected students have been giving extrajudicial authority over the entire student body. It's absurd. If you want students to do this, they should be from the College of Law; not someone who I sat next to in Econ 201.

Been hearing about this since Billy Edelin.

It seems hard to even believe. Do other schools do this?

 

[orangefog]

The academic side of Syracuse University seems to loathe the athletic side of the university. They fail to see how strong athletics can benefit the academic side. It's really weird.

 

[javadoc]

Actually the entire system needs to be shut down, students who are not trained in law shouldn't be in position to suspend anyone.
That was part of the DA's problem, their decisions have no basis in fairness.

Someone get FIRE on line 1.

 

[oldpinepoint]

The academic side of Syracuse University seems to loathe the athletic side of the university. They fail to see how strong athletics can benefit the academic side. It's really weird.

Without strong athletics Syracuse would be just another overpriced university

 

[JeffCuse]

That would be an interesting move by the players. I'm sure they could find some other social injustice tie ins that would make the school quiver above and beyond this (apparent) over reaction.

This is what I am waiting for

 

[kmart128]

Even if this actually did occur and he was guilty. A season long suspension is a lot for a single punch. Ive seen players do way worse and get less of a punishment

 

[Cusefan0307]

This. It's not just an athlete problem. Unelected students have been giving extrajudicial authority over the entire student body. It's absurd. If you want students to do this, they should be from the College of Law; not someone who I sat next to in Econ 201.

It’s been like this for at least two decades. It took an athlete getting suspended for people here to care. It’s a bunch of 20 year old wannabe Supreme Court justices with heavy hands that have been ruining some people’s lives for decades regardless of facts.

 

[dollarbill44]

Should we not follow the lead of our top notch politicians??

 

[baggerbob]

Been hearing about this since Billy Edelin.

It seems hard to even believe. Do other schools do this?

Not being able to have legal representation should be justification to have the complete system shut down.
Any judicial system needs to be fair, and should have recorded records of the proceedings.
If the University can't do this then shut the system down, this has gone on long enough.
All the Big donors need to let the University know that either fix the system, and make it legal or no more money.

 

[SuFTW]

Couple things to consider…

1. If the AD doesn’t get heavily involved in this, you better believe it will be used against SU in recruiting.

2. LeQuint’s HS head coach is SU’s new director of high school relations. He’s been the best hire of the off-season. How does he feel about his employer doing this to one of his HS players?

3. SU should look into the student board who created this penalty. There has been an “us vs them” mentality between students and athletes forever. This can’t be used to make an example out of another athlete.

If the AD gets involved they will not be advertising their involvement.

 

[orlandoorange]

It is hard to be a fan of this school.

 

[NYCCuse826]

It’s been like this for at least two decades. It took an athlete getting suspended for people here to care. It’s a bunch of 20 year old wannabe Supreme Court justices with heavy hands that have been ruining some people’s lives for decades regardless of facts.

You have some people who didn't attend SU so they didn't know, so I can't fault them.

 

[Ozone!]

Syracuse has a long track record of turning away students for things that other schools take no issue with.

Anyone remember Colt Brennan?

I'll give you a real time example. Google Jayden DeLaura, QB for my son's school Arizona Wildcats. It was discovered a few weeks ago he had a sexual assault incident when he was in high school. There was a 5 minute outcry.

Then the story went away. And he is still the QB.

University even released a statement


I'm not making a value judgment on whether he should or shouldnt be. I'm merely saying most schools go above and beyond, often to a fault, to protect their student athletes. We are eager to use them as public examples.

That has not always been the case, a number of sins have been overlooked to keep a player eligible!