LeQuint Allen is Back

[DPCuse]

Team should boycott season unless this is resolved.

 

[SUforme]

Lol what's funny is they just posted a YouTube video on tips for first year Syracuse students. I chuckled and said yeah don't ever get in a fight and have to defend yourself...

 

[FrancoPizza]

There is something to this. When the coaches wives are talking, there has to be some movement.


Oh I guarantee you it’s an epic shiznit storm up there right now

You know this for a fact or is that just your heart hoping that’s the case?

 

[shandeezy7]

My guess is he would have entered into the portal if this had been resolved before then

Right. The portal is closed. His only way to play this season is to fight this and get it overturned.

 

[oldpinepoint]

Right. The portal is closed. His only way to play this season is to fight this and get it overturned.

Joke that it took 7 months for this to be resolved

 

[Cuse12]

The heat is only going to turn up the longer this bull goes on…. I can only imagine the chancellor and ADs office right now.

Also, good on the coaches wives. In this day and age it’s hard to stand up for what’s right. And standing up for Lequint isn’t even debatable, cudos.

 

[RF2044]

The heat is only going to turn up the longer this bull goes on…. I can only imagine the chancellor and ADs office right now.

Also, good on the coaches wives. In this day and age it’s hard to stand up for what’s right. And standing up for Lequint isn’t even debatable, cudos.

Sounds like other than this [and his level of "guilt" is still questionable], he's a squeaky clean kid who is well liked and respected.

Which helps his cause, when additional light gets shed on the situation. Tougher to get a positive outcome for a troublemaker or someone who isn't perceived as positively.

 

[BillSU]

I have not read every post in this thread but don't understand what happened to the man and what were the consequences for him since he started everything by punching Allen in the first place - see the following:

In a Dec. 11 affidavit, Allen said he punched a man in “self-defense” after he was hit twice in the face. A teammate had told Allen that he was injured outside a party at the University Village Apartments, which spurred the incident. Records show that when the teammate and Allen returned to the party, a man yelled at them and accused them of hitting a woman.

Allen said in the lawsuit that once the man punched him once on the side of his face and once on his nose, he punched the man back in the face. A Syracuse Police Department spokesperson said Allen was charged with third-degree assault after the man picked Allen’s photo out of a lineup???????

Does the man just walk after hitting Allen? Shouldn't the man be charged for hitting Allen? Will someone please explain this?

 

[RF2044]

I have not read every post in this thread but don't understand what happened to the man and what were the consequences for him since he started everything by punching Allen in the first place - see the following:

In a Dec. 11 affidavit, Allen said he punched a man in “self-defense” after he was hit twice in the face. A teammate had told Allen that he was injured outside a party at the University Village Apartments, which spurred the incident. Records show that when the teammate and Allen returned to the party, a man yelled at them and accused them of hitting a woman.

Allen said in the lawsuit that once the man punched him once on the side of his face and once on his nose, he punched the man back in the face. A Syracuse Police Department spokesperson said Allen was charged with third-degree assault after the man picked Allen’s photo out of a lineup???????

Does the man just walk after hitting Allen? Shouldn't the man be charged for hitting Allen? Will someone please explain this?

Lots of people asking those same questions -- you didn't miss anything.

 

[SP_Gilbs]

Heres the full interview of what I linked earlier. A bit long but a good listen and perspective from someone on the legal side.

 

[Sudano]

Can a scholarship and NIL be subject to due process requirements?

I would think that there may be significant restrictive clauses in College Enrollment, scholarship and NIL contracts. Not all contracts are legal just because of one's signature. Many contract agreements go before the courts to be interpreted or deemed to be legal or not. And what legal aspects were breached or not.

 

[DoctahLexus]

Joke that it took 7 months for this to be resolved

Another comparison to the Delone Carter snowball incident: That happened in winter obviously and they only suspended him for the Spring and SUMMER semesters. This all happened on December 7 and they could not just give Allen that same two semester punishment for spring and summer? They let it drag on until now and now they say the following two semesters you are suspended. If they started it shortly after the incident occurred his suspension would be lifting soon. The whole thing is bonkers.

 

[FreakTalksAboutSU]

 

[Cuse12]

Sounds like other than this [and his level of "guilt" is still questionable], he's a squeaky clean kid who is well liked and respected.

Which helps his cause, when additional light gets shed on the situation. Tougher to get a positive outcome for a troublemaker or someone who isn't perceived as positively.

I just can’t believe the steps it took to get us here.

1. The kid who was causing problems was at the same party as fball guys
2. This individual cause enough ruckus to get into altercations. Multiple.
3. Then many months later he decides to go to the student board?? Why not immediately. (Also what kind of person does this? Seems premeditated to come forward after months between the incident. If the fight cause lasting damage I can understand to an extent but over getting punched?)
4. This “board” of who knows who, makes a life altering disciplinary action completely beyond common sense with no risk to themselves whatsoever. No public statement just hide behind the “board” and the power of it.

Complete power trip.

 

[Sudano]

I have not read every post in this thread but don't understand what happened to the man and what were the consequences for him since he started everything by punching Allen in the first place - see the following:

In a Dec. 11 affidavit, Allen said he punched a man in “self-defense” after he was hit twice in the face. A teammate had told Allen that he was injured outside a party at the University Village Apartments, which spurred the incident. Records show that when the teammate and Allen returned to the party, a man yelled at them and accused them of hitting a woman.

Allen said in the lawsuit that once the man punched him once on the side of his face and once on his nose, he punched the man back in the face. A Syracuse Police Department spokesperson said Allen was charged with third-degree assault after the man picked Allen’s photo out of a lineup???????

Does the man just walk after hitting Allen? Shouldn't the man be charged for hitting Allen? Will someone please explain this?

Why was the man picking Allen out of a lineup and not Allen picking the man out of a lineup.
Something stinks, and it's not my pasta primavera...

 

[CuseLegacy]

Mama OG

 

[Cusefan69]

So we have a few people on this board who are connected. Is it fair to say this matter is making its way higher in the university and they know this is now a negative publicity issue they are dealing with? To include season ticket holders who are paying good money on the expectations the team they are expecting is not being messed around with by people who are over applying a rules system? Injuries I get. If the word "felony " follows an issue that is also a different case. 2 guys trading a couple punches with no falls and skulls cracking is life. Small punishment, make both guys involved clean up the campus, add a little community service and that's enough. No harm, no foul. If it happens a second time you are suspended for a semester.

 

[FreakTalksAboutSU]

This seems a lot louder a lot faster and among a lot more public people than anything I have seen in quite a while.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

Someone here implied that by being suspended he would not be in good academic standing, which might make him unable to transfer. Not sure if that’s the case.

If so, that's potentially really, really dirty.

The punishment prevents him from participating in higher education generally too.

 

[djcon57]

If so, that's potentially really, really dirty.

The punishment prevents him from participating in higher education generally too.

Yeah if you are gonna do something to that level...you really need to make the specifics of your decision public. The who, whats, and whys of it.

As an alumni, I'm embarrassed, not necessarily by the decision as I don't know the facts in the case, but by the lack of transparency.

 

[GoSU96]

If so, that's potentially really, really dirty.

The punishment prevents him from participating in higher education generally too.

Pretty Kafkaesque

 

[ottodaorange]

I don't know what happened 6 months ago or why this was kept so silent for so long a period of time. From the scant amount of information given, the logical conclusion is that LeQuint may have made a move on, or asked out on a date, the girl that seems to be the center of the brawl. The other guy, we can assume was more than just a friend and took offense. Anyone who punches another in the face, not once but twice, before getting a response is the one that should have been arrested. In other words, the guy who started the fisticuffs goes free and the guy who was reluctantly defending himself gets punished.

This may be completely wrong, or some may have mentioned this in an earlier response that has grown too long to read. But when information is withheld, people will try to make sense out of the minimal information given. This sounds like a stupid episode, but an insane response by a tribunal of college kids that think they no more than the criminal justice system.

 

[GoCuse14]

I don't know what happened 6 months ago or why this was kept so silent for so long a period of time. From the scant amount of information given, the logical conclusion is that LeQuint may have made a move on, or asked out on a date, the girl that seems to be the center of the brawl. The other guy, we can assume was more than just a friend and took offense. Anyone who punches another in the face, not once but twice, before getting a response is the one that should have been arrested. In other words, the guy who started the fisticuffs goes free and the guy who was reluctantly defending himself gets punished.

This may be completely wrong, or some may have mentioned this in an earlier response that has grown too long to read. But when information is withheld, people will try to make sense out of the minimal information given. This sounds like a stupid episode, but an insane response by a tribunal of college kids that think they no more than the criminal justice system.

It is completely wrong.

 

[Ozone!]

I don't know what happened 6 months ago or why this was kept so silent for so long a period of time. From the scant amount of information given, the logical conclusion is that LeQuint may have made a move on, or asked out on a date, the girl that seems to be the center of the brawl. The other guy, we can assume was more than just a friend and took offense. Anyone who punches another in the face, not once but twice, before getting a response is the one that should have been arrested. In other words, the guy who started the fisticuffs goes free and the guy who was reluctantly defending himself gets punished.

This may be completely wrong, or some may have mentioned this in an earlier response that has grown too long to read. But when information is withheld, people will try to make sense out of the minimal information given. This sounds like a stupid episode, but an insane response by a tribunal of college kids that think they no more than the criminal justice system.

Federal Privacy Law is what kept this under wraps, it became public when the student, LeQuint Allen, filed his suit.

 

[Chip]

Team should boycott season unless this is resolved.

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