Let’s Talk About the Raycom RSN Deal for ACC Content

[atlanticuse]

Wish it was espn but pretty much everyone should have access to CW. This should make it easier for some to get these games.

FUBO HAS IT!
(I had a heck of a time last summer/2022 without local baseball games on Bally Sports... Glad Diamond had to cave this year)

 

[CarolinaCuse]

All that really matters financially is whether or not you are close enough to your peers. Our peers are the ACC schools. An SEC school can make $1B more than us per year, and it will have no impact on our ability to win the ACC.

If SU gets left behind, I hope that we end up in a regional conference with like minded schools. That seems so much better than a national conference with nothing in common. What does it matter if you only make $10M vs $40M, when the B16/SEC is making $120M?

I wouldn’t mind being in a like-minded National conference of private schools. IMO - that’s the best scenario outside of the B1G & SEC. We shouldn’t pretend that we’re comparable to public institutions.

 

[HRE Otto IV]

I wouldn’t mind being in a like-minded National conference of private schools. IMO - that’s the best scenario outside of the B1G & SEC. We shouldn’t pretend that we’re comparable to public institutions.

You won't be able to get the B12 private schools to leave. So you would be stuck with Stanford, Tulane, BC, Duke, Wake, Rice, SMU. That is not enough for a conference and not worth the travel. We are better off staying in the East with Pitt, Temple, UConn, JMU, Army, Navy, and maybe USF vs joining with Stanford, Tulane, Rice, and SMU.

 

[Acesn8s]

If the Acc could pull it off and assuming the Big 12 takes arizona schools, Colorado and Utah eventually, I would love for the Acc to add Stanford, Cal, Oregon and Washington if the big ten doesn’t offer them. Get a west coast footprint that brings in a ton of viewers to the conference. Probably a pipe dream but I’d love it.

 

[Bayside44]

Depending on the person ala carte is better. As a whole society, it is worse. The people who are subsidizing things for others are better off ala carte.

There is not a lot of original content anymore on cable. Everything is reruns or old movies, which you can get elsewhere cheaper. I feel like most of these channels are a complete waste.

I barely DVR anything anymore. My wife and I would be perfectly happy with OTA, Paramount+, Max, and my TV's free stream. That costs $160/year with ads (cable has adds). Pretty sure that is a lot cheaper than cable. And we get every show that we currently watch on cable.

For me I get all the sports that I care about at this point in my life. I get every Giants game. I get every Napoli game. Cuse football I am usually there in person. For the few games I do not attend, I can watch at a bar. Heck I usually do that now (my wife prefers it). I no longer watch the Yankees or Knicks, and have never gotten fully into the Rangers or Redbull. I barely pay attention to Cuse BBall at this point. If there is a game I want to watch, I can do so at a bar. For CFB all the bigger games are OTA.

Not everyone is like me, but why am I paying for someone else to have cheaper access to cable?

Semi - serious question, assume you spend money at the bar that could just pay for FiOS?

 

[WoadBlue]

If the Acc could pull it off and assuming the Big 12 takes arizona schools, Colorado and Utah eventually, I would love for the Acc to add Stanford, Cal, Oregon and Washington if the big ten doesn’t offer them. Get a west coast footprint that brings in a ton of viewers to the conference. Probably a pipe dream but I’d love it.

I do not see the Big 12 without OU and Texas being able to take even Arizona, much less newly minted AAU Arizona St. Colorado is a possibility. But not a great one.

However the CW thing could be ideal for getting the ACC and Pac to work together on whole bunch of OOC games matching the leagues in both revenue sports.

 

[Chris02M]

The ACC press release says that Pitt-Cinci would be the 1st game on the CW. Does that make us the 2nd game?

unclear

 

[Chris02M]

All that really matters financially is whether or not you are close enough to your peers. Our peers are the ACC schools. An SEC school can make $1B more than us per year, and it will have no impact on our ability to win the ACC.

If SU gets left behind, I hope that we end up in a regional conference with like minded schools. That seems so much better than a national conference with nothing in common. What does it matter if you only make $10M vs $40M, when the B16/SEC is making $120M?

hyperbole much there is no way the gap will ever be 80 million between the super 2 and us

 

[texascpa]

FUBO HAS IT!
(I had a heck of a time last summer/2022 without local baseball games on Bally Sports... Glad Diamond had to cave this year)

How's FUBO been for you? Almost changed from Directv to it a few years ago.

 

[HRE Otto IV]

Semi - serious question, assume you spend money at the bar that could just pay for FiOS?

Maybe in my 20s but not now. I can't drink over $100 in one sitting anymore. And like I said I usually go to a bar anyway. If I stay home the chances of my wife coming home with groceries during crunch time of a game or needing something else done now that can wait till later is extremely high. That risk doesn't come up at a bar.

 

[rocfan44]

You get the CW as a local if its in your area and you buy the locals.

No sadly not true. I have all the locals.

 

[upperdeck]

No sadly not true. I have all the locals.

I get CW on my directv south of syracuse, which is good since with digital there is no OTA anymore around me that works. It does not come in on direct streaming though just the sat version.

I miss the OTA channels though because you could get the sub channels.

if CW is on a sub channel you might not get it.

for me though around here CW is not an HD signal so you have to override the channel guide to see it if you have HD set on.

 

[Orangefan1]

What was old, is new again?

I didn’t know CW still existed as a channel way to bring excitement ACC

 

[sutomcat]

I didn’t know CW still existed as a channel way to bring excitement ACC

The pro here is that the games will be available nationwide and will be free. Just about anyone should have CW.

This will make getting this content a lot easier for a lot of people. The RSNs are dying and were never a good way for people living outside the ACC footprint to watch these games.

Making more games available throughout the country on OTA free TV seems to me to be a good thing.

 

[MSOrange]

The pro here is that the games will be available nationwide and will be free. Just about anyone should have CW.

This will make getting this content a lot easier for a lot of people. The RSNs are dying and were never a good way for people living outside the ACC footprint to watch these games.

Making more games available throughout the country on OTA free TV seems to me to be a good thing.

Agree totally. At a certain point, we have to be realistic that we're not going to catch the SEC and Big 10 in money. These games weren't going to make or break that. Having the games more easily accessible for most is plenty exciting for me. I'm already looking forward to hopefully fewer threads of people discussing blackouts, how do I watch the game? etc

 

[BigNastyJon]

Hopefully it's a streaming service I already subscribe to.

Sorry OX, I doubt XNXX or XHAMSTER will be picking up the games

 

[Newhouser]

Nothing says big time sports like the CW. I get the deal but the ACC is no longer having breakfast at Tiffany's when it comes to their partnerships...more like drive thru at a Bojangles.

 

[FRANKIEFAN]

Yup. The RSNs are dying and a lot of them are going to be replaced by a mix of streaming and broadcast channels.

The broadcast channels are what make cable TV unreasonable. Obviously the RSNs themselves are a huge fee but posting on a sports forum I assume that is why nearly all of us pay for cable in the first place. (People who don't like sports will cord cut because of RSN charges of course.) The $20+ bucks that is charged for broadcast channels we could get with $10 dollar antennae is a kick to the groin.

 

[JustPherU]

A little off topic here but maybe one of you can give me an idea on how to watch my favorite teams going forward.
I’m a diehard Syracuse- Yankee- Miami Dolphins fan that lives out of market for all these teams and I have always been able to get their games on Directv.NFL Sunday Ticket- MLB extra innings and ACC Network have always been offered, but now that the NFL Sunday Ticket is going to YouTube TV I won’t be able to get my Dolphin games.
Am I going to have to get both Direct and YouTube or will YouTube offer MLB package and all the ESPN channels along with the regional networks?
Hope that isn’t too confusing but any ideas would be appreciated.

 

[All4SU]

I liked the old days when the question was “Is the game being televised?” Not, “How the hell do I get to watch the game?”

If the game was televised, you got to see it. If it wasn’t, you didn’t. Simple. Now every game is televised, but you can’t see them. Yay Progress!

 

[oldpinepoint]

Wish the schools got more money out of this deal. Sadly we do not.

 

[qdawgg]

A little off topic here but maybe one of you can give me an idea on how to watch my favorite teams going forward.
I’m a diehard Syracuse- Yankee- Miami Dolphins fan that lives out of market for all these teams and I have always been able to get their games on Directv.NFL Sunday Ticket- MLB extra innings and ACC Network have always been offered, but now that the NFL Sunday Ticket is going to YouTube TV I won’t be able to get my Dolphin games.
Am I going to have to get both Direct and YouTube or will YouTube offer MLB package and all the ESPN channels along with the regional networks?
Hope that isn’t too confusing but any ideas would be appreciated.

I’m in a somewhat (or was) similar situation. I do have YTTV but the last two years I’ve been paying for the NFL app, just during the season to watch all my Bears games. I’m in upstate NY. It’s like $10 a month. Here’s the caveat, you can’t watch them live. Once the game is over the replay will show up on the app. So that might work for you or it might not. I’ve gotten used to not checking my phone and having the day free, then watching the game later. Plus no commercials or fast forwarding through them and shortening the game time has more than made up for missing the game live.

As far as from an SU fan perspective. I’ve missed more games in the last two years between BB and FB, switching to YTTV than I did in 15 years having cable. So switching to YTTV if you decide to pay for Sunday ticket will only solve one problem.

 

[MSOrange]

I’m in a somewhat (or was) similar situation. I do have YTTV but the last two years I’ve been paying for the NFL app, just during the season to watch all my Bears games. I’m in upstate NY. It’s like $10 a month. Here’s the caveat, you can’t watch them live. Once the game is over the replay will show up on the app. So that might work for you or it might not. I’ve gotten used to not checking my phone and having the day free, then watching the game later. Plus no commercials or fast forwarding through them and shortening the game time has more than made up for missing the game live.

As far as from an SU fan perspective. I’ve missed more games in the last two years between BB and FB, switching to YTTV than I did in 15 years having cable. So switching to YTTV if you decide to pay for Sunday ticket will only solve one problem.

I think this switch to CW will dramatically help your SU problem with YTTV as that seems to be available on YTTV in the Upstate NY region.

 

[Scooch]

The broadcast channels are what make cable TV unreasonable. Obviously the RSNs themselves are a huge fee but posting on a sports forum I assume that is why nearly all of us pay for cable in the first place. (People who don't like sports will cord cut because of RSN charges of course.) The $20+ bucks that is charged for broadcast channels we could get with $10 dollar antennae is a kick to the groin.

That’s because cable operators are unscrupulous. monsters.

They snatched broadcast channel signals for free for years. That changed when they had to start paying to air those channels, and of course they tacked it on as a “broadcast fee” on your bill.

Local broadcast channels have always been the #1 reason why people got cable (better, more reliable reception + news + sports + prime time programs). Cable companies free rode that and made a hefty profit. Now they gotta pay for what they should have been all along.

 

[Scooch]

A little off topic here but maybe one of you can give me an idea on how to watch my favorite teams going forward.
I’m a diehard Syracuse- Yankee- Miami Dolphins fan that lives out of market for all these teams and I have always been able to get their games on Directv.NFL Sunday Ticket- MLB extra innings and ACC Network have always been offered, but now that the NFL Sunday Ticket is going to YouTube TV I won’t be able to get my Dolphin games.
Am I going to have to get both Direct and YouTube or will YouTube offer MLB package and all the ESPN channels along with the regional networks?
Hope that isn’t too confusing but any ideas would be appreciated.

You can get NFL Sunday Ticket without subscribing to YTTV. It’ll just cost more than if you bundle it together. Honestly you’re better off just getting the bundle for 4 months. Check this out:

The Exclusive Home of NFL Sunday Ticket - YouTube & YouTube TV

With NFL Sunday Ticket and YouTube TV, you get every game, every Sunday.

tv.youtube.com

As for MLB, personally I’d order the MLB.tv streaming product. Their app is the best, I’ve been buying that for years.

You’ll get ACC Network with YouTube TV, or if you keep DirecTV of course.

Easy peasy.