Make the change now

[albanycuse]

Im not convinced the University cares about sports and spending money on the programs. They need to overhaul their whole mindset.

 

[Scooch]

I'm not wholeheartedy defending coaching but nobody seems to want to put anything on the PAID players. And they've sucked.

I’m not sure it matters. Either we have great talent and Red is squandering it. Or the talent is subpar and Red recruited it.

Bottom line is we’re losing far more than we should and Red’s not going to be HC much longer. We can squabble over assigning the correct share of blame for the rest of time.

 

[Scooch]

Im not convinced the University cares about sports and spending money on the programs. They need to overhaul their whole mindset.

It was weird to spend hundreds of millions of $$$ on the Dome and other facilities if they don’t care about sports.

 

[capeorange]

Seriously? 100 pct the substitution patterns that killed momentum and leads. Houston was the FTs but you can’t singularly use that excuse in any other game. Hofstra once again was a poor effort where FTs didn’t let us escape but we never should have been in that position.

Trying to use FTs as an excuse for Red simply doesn’t add up and is just being in complete denial.

We shot 86% from the line last night.

 

[dollarbill44]

Many? I'm sure there was one in some year but I feel like it was very rare.

I'm talking early to mid 80s when the Big East was in its infancy and needed to take whatever TV spots they could get. I was 11-14 years old, watching on volume level 1 on an old b&w TV in my room with the lights off so my parents wouldn't know I was still up. WTTG channel 5 (Washington DC) before Fox was a thing Mike Gorman, Len Berman, Bill Raftery, et al.
There was at least one every week, which i always watched. Obviously, not always SU, but not infrequently either.

 

[JarHeadJim]

We could still win the ACC Tournament!

 

[Consigliere]

The close losses shouldn’t have been close for 4 of those heavily impacted by coaching decisions that put us in those positions to lose those games vs maintain /building leads.

Ok. The point is that the team is competitive. The OP calls for making a change now. If we were getting blown out every game that might be a more supportable position. Like I said, at the end of the season it’s wins and losses.

 

[RedtheGOB]

I would hire you...yesterday.

Ok hah. I got a chuckle out of that one.

 

[RF2044]

I think there was more going on behind the scenes at levels above the Athletic Dept. that led to JB being retired. The easy and quickest way out was to hire someone on his staff and AA was sitting in the first assistant chair. Not sure how much throught really went into that. As has been reported on here for almost 3 years, some believe AA wasn't JB's first choice, but JB did set it up to be the inevitable one.

It was certainly the path of least resistance.

That doesn't mean it was the best choice, or the only choice.

 

[tipphill]

The evaporation of good defense is a mystery. First few games of this season we played D like hounds. Recently we've played D like lost puppies.

Lack of respect for the coach maybe

 

[Orangezoo]

Ok. The point is that the team is competitive. The OP calls for making a change now. If we were getting blown out every game that might be a more supportable position. Like I said, at the end of the season it’s wins and losses.

I don’t profess it’s an easy decision. On the heels of the BC loss last night was even more rough. It’s definitely wins and losses but there were a lot of things last night that showed a team in a bit of disarray and lacking leadership. I’ve been against doing anything before end of year but last night has me wondering..,

 

[MikeSU02]

Ok. The point is that the team is competitive. The OP calls for making a change now. If we were getting blown out every game that might be a more supportable position. Like I said, at the end of the season it’s wins and losses.

Red as HC: 46-38 (21-25 in conference)

2023-24 Final KenPom Ranking: 80
2024-25: 115
Current: 71

"Competitive" is doing a LOT of heavy lifting in your post.

BTW, he was also on staff during our slide previous to his HC tenure.

I get that SU is probably waiting until the end of the season, but it's not outrageous to think that he should be let go by next week.

 

[UpstateSM]

If the people in charge don't care enough to show me that we are a serious basketball program then why in the hell should I give a ***? This was clearly a failed hire after the first game of LAST season and nothing has been done but wasting everyone's time for another year and a half.

I'm absolutely maniacal about Syracuse basketball and I have been totally indifferent for two seasons now. It isn't worth me getting upset over anymore and hasn't been for the better part of a decade. Just took awhile to make that realization.

Show me that the school actually cares about this and fire him before the game on Saturday. Please.

 

[Cusefan0307]

Red as HC: 46-38 (21-25 in conference)

2023-24 Final KenPom Ranking: 80
2024-25: 115
Current: 71

"Competitive" is doing a LOT of heavy lifting in your post.

BTW, he was also on staff during our slide previous to his HC tenure.

I get that SU is probably waiting until the end of the season, but it's not outrageous to think that he should be let go by next week.

We will finish with a slightly worse record than 2 years ago while being more competitive in the games we lost. My guess is 18-13 overall, 9-9 ACC.

 

[Col. Bleep]

This is worth reading….especially the latter
Part of the article.
Sounds very familiar

Bobby Hurley’s sad admission feels like his end is near at Arizona State

The bright sun in Tempe, Ariz. apparently doesn’t permeate Desert Financial Arena.

nypost.com

 

[su4life25]

If the people in charge don't care enough to show me that we are a serious basketball program then why in the hell should I give a ***? This was clearly a failed hire after the first game of LAST season and nothing has been done but wasting everyone's time for another year and a half.

I'm absolutely maniacal about Syracuse basketball and I have been totally indifferent for two seasons now. It isn't worth me getting upset over anymore and hasn't been for the better part of a decade. Just took awhile to make that realization.

Show me that the school actually cares about this and fire him before the game on Saturday. Please.

I agree with you.. I have been in denial for a long time now. I the saddest part of it all is coming to terms with the fact that I actually don't care anymore... I don't if its the constant roster turnovers or the below standard basketball... IM JUST SAD

 

[RF2044]

If the people in charge don't care enough to show me that we are a serious basketball program then why in the hell should I give a ***? This was clearly a failed hire after the first game of LAST season and nothing has been done but wasting everyone's time for another year and a half.

I'm absolutely maniacal about Syracuse basketball and I have been totally indifferent for two seasons now. It isn't worth me getting upset over anymore and hasn't been for the better part of a decade. Just took awhile to make that realization.

Show me that the school actually cares about this and fire him before the game on Saturday. Please.

There is a lot of truth to this.

We are teetering on the precipace of the program slouching into irrelevancy.

The powers that be -- namely, the chancelor, new AD, and BoT -- need to figure out what they want this program to be a serious, top 25 caliber program.

If so, then going "cheap" isn't going to fly, and neither will hiring unproven / underqualified guys, rolling the dice on stuff like recruiting chops alone.

This offseason is going to tell us a LOT about whether the University is serious about Syracuse Basketball being good or not.

 

[Ringostar57]

If you fire Autry, who you gonna hire? And the new hire , how is that going to make us better? We can't be shooting from the hip on this.

 

[baggerbob]

It was weird to spend hundreds of millions of $$$ on the Dome and other facilities if they don’t care about sports.

Not really, they have always done things their way,and have always expected the fans to just pay and shut up.

 

[Briancuse]

That’s besides the point. This is a business you can’t be worried about his feelings. He has made a lot of money the past few years. That’s the compensation. He needs to be relived to send a message that this is big time basketball and mediocrity is not acceptable here.

Grown had no problem canning Ewing and he was 20 times better than red.

 

[tbonezone]

That didnt use to be true. We played many a 9:00 p.m. start in the old Big East days.

two things here. i was younger and the team and conference were better.
today ...not so much.

 

[jr4750]

Stole this from Pearl on Cusenation who is a fabulous poster.

SU is eleven points away from being 17-2.

We’re 1-5 in tight games.

Coaching for sure.

 

[DilemaCuse]

I'm talking early to mid 80s when the Big East was in its infancy and needed to take whatever TV spots they could get. I was 11-14 years old, watching on volume level 1 on an old b&w TV in my room with the lights off so my parents wouldn't know I was still up. WTTG channel 5 (Washington DC) before Fox was a thing Mike Gorman, Len Berman, Bill Raftery, et al.
There was at least one every week, which i always watched. Obviously, not always SU, but not infrequently either.

I think I remember watching Gorman on the call when I first started watching back 89. I can't say I was old enough to remember before 89, lol.

 

[Briancuse]

If you fire Autry, who you gonna hire? And the new hire , how is that going to make us better? We can't be shooting from the hip on this.

You mean this year? You can find someone. Sports teams often get a bump when they fire someone. Like Jake said before give engelstad a chance.

 

[Chip]

There is a lot of truth to this.

We are teetering on the precipace of the program slouching into irrelevancy.

The powers that bay -- namely, the chancelor, new AD, and BoT -- need to figure out what they want this program to be a serious, top 25 caliber program.

If so, then going "cheap" isn't going to fly, and neither will hiring unproven / underqualified guys, rolling the dice on stuff like recruiting chops alone.

This offseason is going to tell us a LOT about whether the University is serious about Syracuse Basketball being good or not.

I think you can turn around a basketball program in about an hour in this era. And I don't think we'll go cheap, we didn't seem to with football coaches (I assume the new assistants are being paid really well, otherwise they had better options).

I do wonder how much player money we'll have and what businesses are stepping up to cover that. Maybe the new coach will energize them to find their checkbooks.

This program's success is going be based on a delicate balance between getting the right kind of coach from an X's & O's perspective, and having the right kind of recruiting from an NIL perspective to get the players to execute it.

I also think that the new guy shouldn't have to worry about Coach Boeheim still lingering over the program. Not sure if that's still a thing, but last I knew he still had a job and an office in the building.