Does not matter. All too much power is being attributed to her office. At the end of the day she has few cards in her hand. They can work around her while paying her lip service. She will get steamrolled eventually. She is the mayor of a near bankrupt city and needs the gov more than he needs her.
Not taking it means that the funds will be spent elsewhere in the state.
Not to mention that she officially (the City's Facebook page counts as official, right?) released the task force roster before getting commitments from its members. Or at least the primary ones with knowledge of the proposal that was on the table.
Not so sure about this. Maybe the University gets the money to do a remake of the Dome, but building a new stadium on University property will need public assistance for infrastructure improvements. If they go to skytop for example, you still need access roads to get there.
if she were weak, they'd be going ahead with the stadium
The mayor is neither weak or strong. She is just trying to keep the city from imploding. She could certainly be more forward thinking but I think that's true of all politicians. I truly think she is trying to do the best job she can, however the City is a dump and in real trouble.
she didn't want the stadium. there's no stadium. that ain't weak.
You don't get it. She didn't not want the stadium, she didn't want someone else to get the credit for the stadium - two very different things. she tried to take over and lost. Again the fact that a guy less than two months in town at Su got that aggressive with her shows you who's in charge.
i'm sure she will beg for money. syracuse doesn't have any.
she might be terrible and she might be right about this stadium for the wrong reasons. i just think it's strange to call her weak when she got her way
Your right she's pulled off a brilliant political maneuver - she's going to get $1B instead, her republican counterparts at the county will get no credit, and Samsung will be opening their new factory on Erie blvd.
not if the impeding side wins
where did i say it was brilliant? you stink at reading. i am going to try hard to ignore you for my sake and the sake of the board because you have a terrible grasp of english.
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uh huh. I tick you off because I point out flaws in your arguments on this stuff which you try to couch in terms that make it difficult to question - for example when you use math that someone not versed in financial theory wouldn't really be able to refute you shut down the discussion even when your math is completely wrong. In this thread you try to bend the political reality to shape your view of things and it's just flat out not how things really go. I generally ignore your grandiose statements, but when you mischaracterize reality on items of importance I am going to point it out. Nothing personal, notice I don't resort to insulting your intellect or calling you dumber than a ham sandwich as you have me.
I don't think she's strong by any means. Weak in the sense that she's not very savvy at all politically. If all she needs is $16MM for infrastructure improvements, I can absolutely guarantee that she would have had more leverage and control if she allowed the stadium to push forward. It would have been much easier for her to negotiate to get $16MM in additional funding in order to support the stadium. The stadium would only compound sewage issues in the city and it's a 3% hike in the budget for the proposed stadium. Much more palatable when not on its own.
uncertainty is a risk. we've yet to hear anything because everything was so secret and no one knows any details. there was that quote from defrancisco about the project needing support from city hall. no one knows what that entails but i'm sure it costs money. miner is not in a great position to be making any kind of bets. everyone just assumes there was nothing at stake for her. but that is easy for special interests with no skin in the game to say.
