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McCords season

McNabb his senior year:
BE OPOY
BE 1st Team
5th in Heisman (and I would argue he should have been higher)
Best player on a team that won the conference

Beat Michigan in the Big House. Came within a single point of beating the eventual national champions.

There is no world in which I'd not take him over McCord.

If McNabb, coming off his junior year was transported to present day heading into this year, his NIL offers would make McCord's look like a little kid's weekly allowance.

The final AP poll for the 1998 season, we played:
#1 Tennessee
#5 Florida (bowl game)
#12 Michigan
#20 Miami
#23 VT

Again, we lost by a point to #1, got beat down by #5 and we beat #12, #20 (crushed Miami) and #23.

Take a look at our current schedule. Where do you think our opponents are going to end up at the end of the year? GT is out. UNLV is out. Pitt is at 22 so who knows if they'll stay ranked. Miami is #6 at the moment.

McNabb is, without question, the better QB. Better pure passer? No. But that's one facet of playing QB. McNabb is on a level that McCord can only dream of attaining.
If McCord throws for over 4000 yards and has well over 30 TDs from a purely productive lens would that not be higher than 97 or 98 from McNabb? This is the point that I'm making; that he is on track to have the best single season as a quarterback stat wise.
 
If McCord throws for over 4000 yards and has well over 30 TDs from a purely productive lens would that not be higher than 97 or 98 from McNabb? This is the point that I'm making; that he is on track to have the best single season as a quarterback stat wise.

You will not convince me with aggregate stats. I will respectfully agree to disagree. Ryan Nassib had over 3700 yards his last year and if anyone said that he was as good or better in a single season than McNabb, I'd assume they were nuts.

Aggregate stats mean very little to me a lot of the times. You can look at my basketball board posting for this.

It's a different world in terms of how football is played now than in 1998. If your contention is that he'll just have the best counting stats... sure? I mean, then measure him against Nassib. But counting stats and production aren't the same to me.
 
You will not convince me with aggregate stats. I will respectfully agree to disagree. Ryan Nassib had over 3700 yards his last year and if anyone said that he was as good or better in a single season than McNabb, I'd assume they were nuts.

Aggregate stats mean very little to me a lot of the times. You can look at my basketball board posting for this.

It's a different world in terms of how football is played now than in 1998. If your contention is that he'll just have the best counting stats... sure? I mean, then measure him against Nassib. But counting stats and production aren't the same to me.
26 years before McNabb's senior year was 1972 when they completed 48% of their passes for 1088 yards 3 td and 12 int.

Ancient history, can't compare
 
McNabb was the better player for a longer period of time here. McCord is having an amazing season throwing the ball in a very different era. My take.
 
Ok, if we look at "strictly what's been done in an SU uniform"

McNabb was the Big East offensive player of the DECADE for the 1990s, named to the Syracuse ALL-CENTURY team, Heisman finalist, 3x BE offensive player of the year...

Again, I LOVE McCord and some of his stats are going to break SU single season records. IF he played here for 3-4 years, he could be the "best" SU QB of your lifetime. But he wont get that chance.
And those teams had a lot of talent and never won more then 9 games, and got blown out a few times, including his last bowl game.
He was a very good player, but didn't win as much as he should have.
 
Please don't play into NC States hands and run it a lot. I want another 60 passing attempts and make them stop him.

McNabb and P was a different era but even still we should have been a pass heavy team from the minute the Dome opened on. Kyle is worthy of the records he is going to set but noone else has had the opportunity to throw this much which is ridiculous considering trends in CFB and how teams like us have great years and us playing in a freaking Dome.

We just need him to get a 2nd year. He should be a backup at worst in the NFL hard to not see him sticking as at least a 2 but the NFL wants guys who can run right now. He won't go that late but I don't think he goes particularly early. One more year at Syracuse where he can reset this years records and let the NFL swing back to placing a premium on accuracy and arm strength is best for everyone. He should get the year Day burned his RS back.
 
The first drive throw to Pena and you go wow. Elite

the Pick throw to Allen and you go wow. bad

when his feet are set he is super elite
when he has to throw a bit off timing, not as elite but still pretty good

Wish we had better deep threats to open up more field.

Coach keeps mentioning Ross, lets see where he leads.
 
What about for a single season though?
Let's pump the brakes a little. 2 of the 5 games in your sample are home against Ohio and Holy Cross.
 
I really hope he keeps this up, but good lord, this kind of speculation is a little crazy.

Last time I played golf, I very uncharacteristically parred the first hole. At that time, you could have said I was on pace to shoot a 71. I'll save you the suspense. I did not shoot a 71.

My point is that it is insane to just draw a straight line out on the graph when you have a small sample size that also includes the weakest teams we will play all year.
 
Letting the season play out, fully & completely before ranking McCord.

McPherson
McNabb
Dungey
Philcox
Graves
Nassib

All brought us a lot of joy.

Pure throwing ability? Sure, appears to be the best, so far.
 
McNabb his senior year:
BE OPOY
BE 1st Team
5th in Heisman (and I would argue he should have been higher)
Best player on a team that won the conference

Beat Michigan in the Big House. Came within a single point of beating the eventual national champions.

There is no world in which I'd not take him over McCord.

If McNabb, coming off his junior year, was transported to present day heading into this year, his NIL offers would make McCord's look like a little kid's weekly allowance.

The final AP poll for the 1998 season, we played:
#1 Tennessee
#5 Florida (bowl game)
#12 Michigan
#20 Miami
#23 VT

Again, we lost by a point to #1, got beat down by #5 and we beat #12, #20 (crushed Miami) and #23.

Take a look at our current schedule. Where do you think our opponents are going to end up at the end of the year? GT is out. UNLV is out. Pitt is at 22 so who knows if they'll stay ranked. Miami is #6 at the moment.

McNabb is, without question, the better QB. Better pure passer? No. But that's one facet of playing QB. McNabb is on a level that McCord can only dream of attaining.
You make a good argument for McNabb as our best all-time QB but that’s not exactly the exercise. McNabb was a generation ago. Unless you lived through it, it’s history. Today’s students and many fans weren’t alive to see McNabb play, and that was an entirely different era. I’ve lived through a lot of different SU QB’s too, and think McCord may well be our best pure passer. He may well do great things as our QB and eclipse what other QB’s have done in orange, but that doesn’t diminish what they did in their era. I’m not sure a one year QB could ever have the impact of a multiple year McNabb, but think it’s unlikely we’ll ever have a multiple year great QB again. Times change.
 
I really hope he keeps this up, but good lord, this kind of speculation is a little crazy.

Last time I played golf, I very uncharacteristically parred the first hole. At that time, you could have said I was on pace to shoot a 71. I'll save you the suspense. I did not shoot a 71.

My point is that it is insane to just draw a straight line out on the graph when you have a small sample size that also includes the weakest teams we will play all year.
He's thrown 240 passes
 
I disagree, love mcnabb and nothing against him but I remember a ton of throws at peoples feet. his scrambling got him out of a lot of jambs. McCord is the best passer we have ever had here, he has a super high football iq and can read defenses better also.
Yep. It’s not even close. Add in (after watching that extended cut vid), the stellar leadership, the suprising to me for some reason, vocal leadership passion and fire he displays. No if McCord was here as long as McNabb was, he would blow away every single record, both SU and ACC. NOT. EVEN. CLOSE.

edit: EXCEPT rushing TD's.
 
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Letting the season play out, fully & completely before ranking McCord.

McPherson
McNabb
Dungey
Philcox
Graves
Nassib

All brought us a lot of joy.

Pure throwing ability? Sure, appears to be the best, so far.
McNabb was a thrilling player to watch. But Don McPherson was my favorite. That undefeated season was magical and he led the offense all year. He unquestionably should have won the Heisman trophy that season.
 
Let's pump the brakes a little. 2 of the 5 games in your sample are home against Ohio and Holy Cross.
Everyone plays cupcake OOC games, and one of ours was against a ranked opponent.
 

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