McMurphy: ND to join ACC as Partial Member

[mountaincuse]

@mcmurphyespn: ACC will not go to 16 teams in hoops, sources tell @espn. Notre Dame will be league's last addition

for now...(i'm guessing)

 

[SUinNYC]

This also should bump each ACC team's payout by $2-$3 million. Boom. That doesn't count the Orange Bowl money which should be another $3-$5 million. So total is about $22-$25 per school. Um. Yea.

Brett McMurphy‏@McMurphyESPN​

Notre Dame also could increase ACC's media rights from $17M per school to b/w $18M-$19M per school, sources told @ESPN

 

[Scooch]

So can someone point me to all the blog posts and tweets that told us this news would be coming today? You know, the ones from all those insiders who know everything that's happening in every athletic department and league office in the country.

Anyone?

Bueller?

 

[mountaincuse]

So can someone point me to all the blog posts and tweets that told us this news would be coming today? You know, the ones from all those insiders who know everything that's happening in every athletic department and league office in the country.

Anyone?

Bueller?

Not a national insider, but you gotta tip the cap to abritagaels - he's been providing nuggets for a while now

 

[Scooch]

Not a national insider, but you gotta tip the cap to abritagaels - he's been providing nuggets for a while now

I'm glad he's been posting. Was referring to the multitude of dopes who know zilch and make up.

 

[orange79]

Not a national insider, but you gotta tip the cap to abritagaels - he's been providing nuggets for a while now

Yep - he was pretty much spot on with his NCSt source (although, I would have liked his original nugget about ND having to play 6 ACC games per year instead of 5, but still, it's a win).

 

[Townie72]

Ok...but someone on this board was VERY firm that if ND went to another conference, the ONLY conference that made sense is the B10. I think there's $50M out there now that says different. Even that guy would have to agree that if ND football joins a conference, it will be the ACC.

But ND didn't go to another Conference. Some of their sports did. They are partial members of the ACC as they were partial members of the Big East.

If they had to go --- with football --- to a Conference it would have been the Big 10.

 

[Orangemen]

@mcmurphyespn: ACC will not go to 16 teams in hoops, sources tell @espn. Notre Dame will be league's last addition

Honestly, that makes the most sense.

15 fball schools is awkward. And if somehow down the line ND did want to join fully, what would you do with a SJU, Gtown, or Nova.

 

[orangecuse]

But ND didn't go to another Conference. Some of their sports did. They are partial members of the ACC as they were partial members of the Big East.

If they had to go --- with football --- to a Conference it would have been the Big 10.

Spin City! You'd give the best politicians out there a run for their money!

 

[sutomcat]

Dan Wetzel has a really interesting look at this. He says what forced ND's hand was football scheduling. That's why ND agreed to partial football membership(5 games vs. 9)--they had to. If they didn't, they wouldn't be able to fill their schedule. Everybody's dance card was filling up and ND was having trouble getting to 12 games.

That was a good article. Also shows how hard it is going to be to get Notre Dame to join the ACC for football as well.

 

[orangecuse]

That was a good article. Also shows how hard it is going to be to get Notre Dame to join the ACC for football as well.

Yep...not when you can have one's cake and eat it too!

 

[xc84]

But ND didn't go to another Conference. Some of their sports did. They are partial members of the ACC as they were partial members of the Big East.

If they had to go --- with football --- to a Conference it would have been the Big 10.

So if they do join a conference (for football), you think they will pay the ACC the $50M and go to the B10?

 

[texascpa]

Scott Van Pelt opened his show about ND. The question they kept asking is "Who is No 16" because their thought is that it's going to be a mess to schedule 15 basketball schools. However, the one thing they didn't mention is that other than football, the ACC puts all teams in one conference. There is no Atlantic/Coastal divisions. Therefore, it's not difficult at all to schedule teams.

 

[Scooch]

But ND didn't go to another Conference. Some of their sports did. They are partial members of the ACC as they were partial members of the Big East.

If they had to go --- with football --- to a Conference it would have been the Big 10.

My God, it won't kill you to admit you're wrong.

 

[SUinNYC]

So if they do join a conference (for football), you think they will pay the ACC the $50M and go to the B10?

Hahaha! No way. It's ACC or nothing.

 

[BlueCurtain]

My impression was that for football, it's still really 14 teams when it comes to conference standings, and the matchup with ND will really just be a non-conference game for all intents and purposes.

Is that correct?

 

[Townie72]

My God, it won't kill you to admit you're wrong.

I would, if I was.

ND going to the Big10 or going to the ACC means the whole thing going. Not the hybrid we have now.

I know it sounds "lawyerly", but it isn't.

Answer this question: Is Notre Dame going to now be in the ACC?

The choices are:

1. No
2. Yes
3. Partially in and partially out.

You can see that both "1. Yes" and "2. No" are incorrect.

Forget this voting nonsense. Where do the teams play?

 

[kingottoiii]

Scott Van Pelt opened his show about ND. The question they kept asking is "Who is No 16" because their thought is that it's going to be a mess to schedule 15 basketball schools. However, the one thing they didn't mention is that other than football, the ACC puts all teams in one conference. There is no Atlantic/Coastal divisions. Therefore, it's not difficult at all to schedule teams.

Without 16 BBall then you need byes. That is fine but not ideal. So for all 15 (odd number) teams to play 18 BBall games, the ACC will have to play a 10 week schedule with each team getting two byes. For ten of those teams it will be 1 weekend and 1 midweek. For 5 teams it will be two midweeks. So SU will either have a few days off twice a year or can schedule an OOC game during the off days. That however will be difficult as most OOC teams will have their own conf schedules and no open dates.

With 16 teams you can have a 9 week schedule and zero byes.

 

[IthacaMatt]

If all 15 schools have a seat in the ACC boardroom, and if Notre Dame's vote will count the same as Duke's, or FSU's or Syracuse's vote on ACC issues, then it really doesn't make a difference. At least to Swofford and the people running the ACC.

I'm talking about whether or not ND will be granted full voting rights, and you're worried about cosmic significance (or winning a bar room bet).

Just don't let them vote on the next football contract !!

 

[Millhouse]

was curious to see which ACC teams ND has played and how many times. i picked 1970 as a random start point. will be interesting to see how those games are doled out. will they play BC and Miami every year and spread the rest around? not 100% sure this is right, did it very fast

Opponent gm
Pittsburgh 31
Boston College 21
Miami (Florida) 20
Georgia Tech 13
North Carolina 4
Syracuse 3
Clemson 2
Maryland 2
Duke 1
North Carolina State 1
Virginia 1
Wake Forest 1

 

[IthacaMatt]

Without 16 BBall then you need byes. That is fine but not ideal. So for all 15 (odd number) teams to play 18 BBall games, the ACC will have to play a 10 week schedule with each team getting two byes. For ten of those teams it will be 1 weekend and 1 midweek. For 5 teams it will be two midweeks. So SU will either have a few days off twice a year or can schedule an OOC game during the off days. That however will be difficult as most OOC teams will have their own conf schedules and no open dates.

No, you play each team once - that's 14 games, and then you have 2 "rivals" who you play home-and-home. 16 game schedule works fine.

Unless you were talking about a conference tournament. Then, yes, you would need byes to balance out the bracket.

 

[Scooch]

was curious to see which ACC teams ND has played and how many times. i picked 1970 as a random start point. will be interesting to see how those games are doled out. will they play BC and Miami every year and spread the rest around? not 100% sure this is right, did it very fast

I think they already said ND will play everyone equally, on a rotation.

So we would play ND every 3 years. Which is exactly the rate we play everyone in the Coastal Division, save for our cross-over rival Pitt.

 

[IthacaMatt]

Then this is fail. Except for nailing the coffin for UConn and Rutgers, which is smaller win.

For us, Rutgers and UConn sliding back into football obscurity is a HUGE win. It's the key to our return to being a top team.

 

[kingottoiii]

No, you play each team once - that's 14 games, and then you have 2 "rivals" who you play home-and-home. 16 game schedule works fine.

Unless you were talking about a conference tournament. Then, yes, you would need byes to balance out the bracket.

Um how do 15 teams play every Saturday? It is the same reason why the AL has 14 teams and NL has 16 teams.

 

[Scooch]

Without 16 BBall then you need byes. That is fine but not ideal. So for all 15 (odd number) teams to play 18 BBall games, the ACC will have to play a 10 week schedule with each team getting two byes. For ten of those teams it will be 1 weekend and 1 midweek. For 5 teams it will be two midweeks. So SU will either have a few days off twice a year or can schedule an OOC game during the off days. That however will be difficult as most OOC teams will have their own conf schedules and no open dates.

With 16 teams you can have a 9 week schedule and zero byes.

Byes? This is hoops. What are you talking about?