There had been talk at one point of a big infrastructure project to bring a major water line down from Lake Ontario to supplement Syracuse (and CNY's) water supply. This would make a good portion of the local water infrastructure essentially drought-proof. Seems like a good excuse to push the project and get it done.Micron’s environmental impact at Clay chip fabs doubles in latest estimates
The semiconductor plant could use more water every day than the entire city of Syracuse.www.syracuse.com
Redundancy is a good thing for water, oil, electricity, etc...
The changes in estimated water and power needed are kind of shocking given nothing has changed since they were originally supplied. I wonder if Micron intentionally gave low ball numbers to help get the project approved?
Of course the market will determine if more than 2 plants get built.
Didn't Norway just discover enough phosphorus to power the world for 50 years? Scandinavia doesn't seem to be living up to the Sick Man of Europe standard, but the rest of the continent is in decline.
It would help if everything stopped centralizing so that everyone wasn't having to move closer to all the same large cities and compete for the same housing. There are plenty of houses in rural areas and smaller cities and towns, but they're collapsing as people abandon them to move to where the jobs are going.
Shouldn't more people working remotely help that?
I thought that was changing with people working remotely, with a major housing issue being rich people buying them all and renting them out or Air BBing them?
I think it's multifaceted, but I believe the working from home thing is a bit overstated. Most people I know still have jobs that require a person to be present and I don't think that many people that have chosen to work from home left the burbs. The houses being bought up by big companies and turned into rentals certainly contributes.
I don't see how that helps with what I was talking about. It seems like they'll expand the Syracuse suburbs and draw job seekers closer to Syracuse from outlying areas. You'll certainly get some people that are comfortable commuting from nearby counties like they did for GE, Carrier, GM, and New Process Gear. I think the spreading out I was referencing would have required them to set up shop farther away from Syracuse in a smaller citiy like Auburn, Oneida, Fulton, etc. I'm not saying it would've made sense for them to do that, though.
Well Syracuse like most small towns has been treading water or worse for 50 years. Micron spinoff activities should help outlying cities too.
It'll be nice to see a central NY resurgence, thanks to technology moving to Syracuse and Utica.
Sure. I didn't mean to suggest it wouldn't and that wasn't really what I was talking about. I was talking about how things have for quite some time been moving away from small towns and small cities toward larger cities and creating competition for limited housing space. Our perspectives seem to be different. I don't consider Syracuse a small town. It's a city of 100,000 people with surrounding suburbs. When I say small town, I'm talking about actual towns without stop lights where people put houses on acreage like where I grew up and small cities of 10,000ish people. Those areas have been losing economic support for decades during this era of reurbanization, forcing people to move where the jobs are and compete for space. My comment wasn't specifically about Micron.
That's a bit of a generalization. Some people prefer urban areas where they can walk to everything, some like the burbs for being close to everything but having their own little piece of land, some like having space. I prefer rural living, but that's difficult where I live unless you're ok with longish commute times. Where I live, subdivisions are going up left and right. What's harder to find is a decent 2 acres or so of land with a modest house unless you have a six figure income.
Population growth for young people in downtown Syracuse has been growing rapidly for years.
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