Modify the one and done rule

[upperdeck]

reading Kareems comments about the broken system, they should just add one more rule to the one and done..

kids can leave after one.

but the school is on the hook for 3-4 years or until they graduate with the scholie counting towards the limit, or pick some number of years > than 1..

bring in all the 1 and done you want but you dont get it back when they leave..

you can they play the one and done game , but you cant bring in 5-6 every year. teams would have to more careful and it would make the 1 and doners spread around far much more.. it would make the NCAA game move towards kids who want an education which is where it should really be,

 

[two3zone]

Nah. Then financial aid and student loans come into play and next thing you know UK and Duke have 10 McDonald's All American walkons.

Kareem didn't think this through.

 

[cliftonparksufan]

reading Kareems comments about the broken system, they should just add one more rule to the one and done..

kids can leave after one.

but the school is on the hook for 3-4 years or until they graduate with the scholie counting towards the limit, or pick some number of years > than 1..

bring in all the 1 and done you want but you dont get it back when they leave..

you can they play the one and done game , but you cant bring in 5-6 every year. teams would have to more careful and it would make the 1 and doners spread around far much more.. it would make the NCAA game move towards kids who want an education which is where it should really be,

Here is a better idea. Make Jay Bilas head of the NCAA. He'd figure it out within 24 hours. College Basketball would return to it's former glory and not the sham it is now.

 

[GooseMutt]

Here is a better idea. Make Jay Bilas head of the NCAA. He'd figure it out within 24 hours. College Basketball would return to it's former glory and not the sham it is now.

Love to have been a fly on the wall at Jay Bilas house when he heard Coach K swiped JBs guy Tucker in 3 days.

 

[Col. Bleep]

Here is a better idea. Make Jay Bilas head of the NCAA. He'd figure it out within 24 hours. College Basketball would return to it's former glory and not the sham it is now.

Bilas would be great in that role!

As suggested elsewhere, schools would figure ways around the rule.
There's too much money involved.
Colleges profit by getting big time players for a year.
And Kareem seems to think that most schools involved in big time athletics actually care about educating athletes beyond the point of keeping them eligible.

The only real answer is for the NBA to repeal the rule(s) stifling competition by making those less than a year out of high school ineligible. The NBA gets away with that because of the antitrust exemption provided by a collective bargaining agreement.

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

Let's not worry about how to keep kids out of the NBA for our enjoyment.

The NHL starts drafting kids at 16, through the Jr. leagues.

Soccer takes kids into academies as early as 8-9.

Baseball drafts HS kids.

Tennis and golf let you be pros at 16.

Kids get to be actors and musicians with no age restraint.

Let the kids go make money.

 

[kirbivore]

apparently the NBA and the players union don't enjoy having kids jump from HS to NBA since they are the one's who made the rule. I'd prefer they go the baseball route. Kids can get drafted straight out of high school. The ones that don't go pro then have to wait three years. The NBA gets the one and done talent and the college game gets the kids that actually want to be there.

 

[Briancuse]

Let's not worry about how to keep kids out of the NBA for our enjoyment.

The NHL starts drafting kids at 16, through the Jr. leagues.

Soccer takes kids into academies as early as 8-9.

Baseball drafts HS kids.

Tennis and golf let you be pros at 16.

Kids get to be actors and musicians with no age restraint.

Let the kids go make money.

Its not just for our enjoyment, its for the betterment of bball, who wants to see 18 year olds who aren't ready stink it up in the Nba. They have every right to impose an age limit.

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

Its not just for our enjoyment, its for the betterment of bball, who wants to see 18 year olds who aren't ready stink it up in the Nba. They have every right to impose an age limit.

That's B.S.
First of all, guys play their way out of professional sports every year. Lots of guys can't play at that level, each year.
Also, if guys aren't ready, or wont be able go play relatively soon, they don't draft them with the idea of playing them.
Nobody seems to care that the NFL drafts QBs who aren't ready to play right away.

 

[JLine]

Just get rid of the rule. No reason they shouldn't be able to leave HS, and get a job if they want to without being forced to go to College, or overseas for a year. It makes zero sense, and never will.

 

[HOFCeluck]

The rule is dumb. Dont punish the kid because teams want to draft them.

 

[GooseMutt]

What we need to do first is some serious housecleaning and make sure our program is competitive on EVERY level because the landscape has changed and will continue to evolve. If you want elite recruits you better identify and provide what they are looking for. If we take care of our own sandbox they will come

 

[br801]

Its not just for our enjoyment, its for the betterment of bball, who wants to see 18 year olds who aren't ready stink it up in the Nba. They have every right to impose an age limit.

But I thought the "not ready" crew didn't see the floor much in the NBA or ended up in the D-League or playing overseas? How are they stinking up the NBA?

 

[jordoo]

I don't like the rule. I get why the NBA does it. It gives them a much better chance to gauge the actual talents and potential of these kids. I'm not convinced getting rid of the rule helps even things out though. Some kids will go others will stay and there will be a lot of uncertainty leading up to it. The top 20 or so highschool kids may hold off until very late to make the decision. This may cause the next 20 or so rated kids who aren't jumping to the draft to wait hoping the guys in line in front of them for UK, KU, Duke enter the draft and they can get a spot. It could actually make things worse in the long run. How about getting commitments and signed LOI from a kid who then decides to enter the draft before he ever showed up on campus. I'm not sure how to fix it really.

 

[UnknownOrange]

Its not just for our enjoyment, its for the betterment of bball, who wants to see 18 year olds who aren't ready stink it up in the Nba. They have every right to impose an age limit.

Yeah cause 1 year makes such a difference.

 

[PhatOrange]

The NFL has a 3 year rule, I'd say you either go to 3 years like the NFL or none at all. HS straight to the pros.

 

[newmexicuse]

I have always been for a two & done rule, ie, a kid can declare straight out of HS, but if he doesn't he then has to stay two years. That would be better for the kids (as a group) and better for the schools.

It would also serve to spread the wealth around as the 2nd year kids would find full rosters at the Dukes & Kentucky's & have to look elsewhere unless they wanted to ride pine.

 

[AirForceOrange]

Follow MLBs Draft rules...

Eligibility
To be drafted, a player must fit the following criteria:

• Be a resident of, or have attended an educational institution in, the United States, Canada, or a U.S. territory such as Puerto Rico. Players from other countries are not subject to the draft, and can be signed by any team unless they have attended an educational institution in the aforementioned areas.
• Have never signed a major or minor league contract.
• High school players are eligible only after graduation, and if they have not attended college.
• Players at four-year colleges and universities are eligible three years after first enrolling in such an institution, or after their 21st birthdays (whichever occurs first).
• Junior and community college players are eligible to be drafted at any time.

 

[NYCorange]

apparently the NBA and the players union don't enjoy having kids jump from HS to NBA since they are the one's who made the rule. I'd prefer they go the baseball route. Kids can get drafted straight out of high school. The ones that don't go pro then have to wait three years. The NBA gets the one and done talent and the college game gets the kids that actually want to be there.

This would only work if the NBA put some serious money into a series of developmental leagues. It works in baseball because the High Schoolers don't have to take a roster spot right away and can start developing at a level appropriate for them. The D-league is a start, but it doesn't supply enough roster spots yet, and isn't financially sustainable yet either.

 

[CuseFaninVT]

I have always been for a two & done rule, ie, a kid can declare straight out of HS, but if he doesn't he then has to stay two years. That would be better for the kids (as a group) and better for the schools.

It would also serve to spread the wealth around as the 2nd year kids would find full rosters at the Dukes & Kentucky's & have to look elsewhere unless they wanted to ride pine.

It would be better for the NBA as well.

 

[UnknownOrange]

This would only work if the NBA put some serious money into a series of developmental leagues. It works in baseball because the High Schoolers don't have to take a roster spot right away and can start developing at a level appropriate for them. The D-league is a start, but it doesn't supply enough roster spots yet, and isn't financially sustainable yet either.

Why does the NBA need to put more money in the D-League? It's not like AAA, AA, and A level baseball have awesome salaries.

 

[PhatOrange]

didn't know MLB has a 3 year rule if you enroll. So what's good for MLB and the NFL should be the same for the NBA.

 

[cuseincincy]

Your mixing responsibilities a little. As I'm pretty sure you know the One and Done rule is an NBA rule. How is it that you want them to add to that rule requirements on the universities to be on the hook for anything? This is all about greed. The NCAA did a good thing when they allowed kids to declare for the draft and then come back to school as long as they do it before a certain date AND have not signed with an agent or accepted money. I'd like to see them get rid of the date aspect but they can never control the greed of some people to grab the dough. I do like the baseball way. If a kid wants to go straight from HS and is willing to pay the price of working your way through the lower levels of the minors for a few years so be it. The NBADL is robust enough to simulate the baseball model but there are options for kids in the US and overseas to make money playing basketball. But if they do choose college, they have to stay 3 years before they are eligible to be drafted again. I really see this as a win win win for the players, NBA and NCAA. No it does not accommodate the kid that wants to go to school for a couple years and then turn pro but I would consider that eating your cake and having it to. Which is kind of what they have now. Why is everything skewed in the interest of 18 and 19 year olds who the vast majority of are not ready to contribute anything to an NBA team on the floor? They truly have no power other than the ability to decide where to play. Change their options, there is nothing they can do about it.

 

[NYCorange]

Why does the NBA need to put more money in the D-League? It's not like AAA, AA, and A level baseball have awesome salaries.

Not for higher salaries, but for a more robust system. And so that the teams can be self sustaining financially like most minor league baseball teams are close to doing.

 

[Oráiste]

the NBA and the Player's Association ratified a new CBA in December. It runs through the 2023-24 season (with an opt out after the 2022-23 season). The left the "one and done" rule intact, so it is pointless to talk about changing it for the next 5 years.