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Does anyone know about this??

In a recent interview a recruit said that along with the IPF there will be renovations done to the team conference room, position rooms, and coaches offices. If true this is great news. The conference room could really use some enhancements which could probably be done at a relatively low cost in the big picture. It would definitely be nice to see some leather seats in there. Either way it's good to see that we aren't sitting still and are continuing to make renovations on top of the work already done.
 
An extremely reliable source told me recently that other than the IPF, the only other renovation scheduled is for the coaches offices, which have not been updated since Mac was here.
 
sutomcat said:
An extremely reliable source told me recently that other than the IPF, the only other renovation scheduled is for the coaches offices, which have not been updated since Mac was here.

Well it sounded hopeful for a minute.
 
An extremely reliable source told me recently that other than the IPF, the only other renovation scheduled is for the coaches offices, which have not been updated since Mac was here.

Didn't the conference room/rooms just get updated recently with the addition to the football wing?
 
Does anyone know about this??

In a recent interview a recruit said that along with the IPF there will be renovations done to the team conference room, position rooms, and coaches offices. If true this is great news. The conference room could really use some enhancements which could probably be done at a relatively low cost in the big picture. It would definitely be nice to see some leather seats in there. Either way it's good to see that we aren't sitting still and are continuing to make renovations on top of the work already done.


Was told last week we are spending 200 million to renovate the Dome
 
AlpharettaCuse said:
Don't know. My first question was what would cost that much? Retractable roof and a new tailgating area outside one end of the Dome.

I don't what it would cost but I posted a while ago about a potential plan to expand the Dome on the west end which would include a restaurant, offices, suites, media room, etc. Will have to see if I can find that post.
 
I don't what it would cost but I posted a while ago about a potential plan to expand the Dome on the west end which would include a restaurant, offices, suites, media room, etc. Will have to see if I can find that post.

How about just a fixed-see through roof like the new Minnesota stadium and blow out the West end of the stadium as Bees said.
 
I don't what it would cost but I posted a while ago about a potential plan to expand the Dome on the west end which would include a restaurant, offices, suites, media room, etc. Will have to see if I can find that post.

I've been poking around all week on this stuff, and here's what I have been able to piece together. While some of the details may not make complete sense, the view from 10,000 feet is pretty clear.

Cantor was all about growth. Particularly growth in enrollment. In her time here, undergraduate enrollment grew about 25%. That can be viewed as good or bad. Many here lamented the drop in the Universities rankings and blamed it on relaxed admissions. I think you might be able to tie that all together. One person mentioned that 20k undergrad enrollment some day in the future may have been one of her goals. With increased enrollment and future plans to grow further and with SU already bulging at the seams to "fit" all of these students (I was told some transfer students are actually housed in a hotel), University property was of high value for academic purposes. Thus the talk and the plan to use Dome property for academic purposes.

This would necessitate a new athletic building and thus the 2 year old plan shown here. Cantor and Gross were big proponents. I'm not sure why the "new" plan financed mostly by the state and county popped up, but I assumed it was a combo of cost and the state wanting to out their stamp on local economic development. But one or the other were real plans and was supported by Cantors vision at SU. Gave her more real estate and have Gross a new toy.

Now comes the new chancellor and while I don't know his vision, I'm hearing he may be more of the mindset that the Dome property isn't necessarily needed and growth in enrollment should be slowed or reversed. He isn't tossing out any idea but is going to do his own due diligence and slowed down the "decision". The indecision on a new facility may be as much SU as it is the Mayor. But that's not a bad thing necessarily.

Having said that, and the Chancellor even alluded to it, other options are also being considered, such as a major renovation to the Dome. It was mentioned that a $100m makeover could be on the table. Besides numerous changes to the inside of the Dome, the big change could be adding to it with a building attached on the west side of the Dome. This would be a 4-5 story building that would go out from the Dome and over Irving in some way.

The building would serve many purposes, some which I forget, but included offices, classrooms, house Sports Management, changing and/or locker rooms for non-athletic events, media rooms, etc. The idea would also be to increase the number of days a year the Dome is used and be able to handle any type of event. The goal would supposedly be 200 days a year that some have estimated would be several millions more a year to the coffers.

That's all I got. I think every option is on the table. SU facility on SU property, Public facility on county or city property, or a renovated Dome.
Last edited: Jan 18, 2014
rrlbees, Jan 18, 2014 Report
 
CuseLegacy said:
I've been poking around all week on this stuff, and here's what I have been able to piece together. While some of the details may not make complete sense, the view from 10,000 feet is pretty clear. Cantor was all about growth. Particularly growth in enrollment. In her time here, undergraduate enrollment grew about 25%. That can be viewed as good or bad. Many here lamented the drop in the Universities rankings and blamed it on relaxed admissions. I think you might be able to tie that all together. One person mentioned that 20k undergrad enrollment some day in the future may have been one of her goals. With increased enrollment and future plans to grow further and with SU already bulging at the seams to "fit" all of these students (I was told some transfer students are actually housed in a hotel), University property was of high value for academic purposes. Thus the talk and the plan to use Dome property for academic purposes. This would necessitate a new athletic building and thus the 2 year old plan shown here. Cantor and Gross were big proponents. I'm not sure why the "new" plan financed mostly by the state and county popped up, but I assumed it was a combo of cost and the state wanting to out their stamp on local economic development. But one or the other were real plans and was supported by Cantors vision at SU. Gave her more real estate and have Gross a new toy. Now comes the new chancellor and while I don't know his vision, I'm hearing he may be more of the mindset that the Dome property isn't necessarily needed and growth in enrollment should be slowed or reversed. He isn't tossing out any idea but is going to do his own due diligence and slowed down the "decision". The indecision on a new facility may be as much SU as it is the Mayor. But that's not a bad thing necessarily. Having said that, and the Chancellor even alluded to it, other options are also being considered, such as a major renovation to the Dome. It was mentioned that a $100m makeover could be on the table. Besides numerous changes to the inside of the Dome, the big change could be adding to it with a building attached on the west side of the Dome. This would be a 4-5 story building that would go out from the Dome and over Irving in some way. The building would serve many purposes, some which I forget, but included offices, classrooms, house Sports Management, changing and/or locker rooms for non-athletic events, media rooms, etc. The idea would also be to increase the number of days a year the Dome is used and be able to handle any type of event. The goal would supposedly be 200 days a year that some have estimated would be several millions more a year to the coffers. That's all I got. I think every option is on the table. SU facility on SU property, Public facility on county or city property, or a renovated Dome. Last edited: Jan 18, 2014 rrlbees, Jan 18, 2014 Report

You're a better searcher than I am. I couldn't find it. Thanks.
 
I've been poking around all week on this stuff, and here's what I have been able to piece together. While some of the details may not make complete sense, the view from 10,000 feet is pretty clear.

Cantor was all about growth. Particularly growth in enrollment. In her time here, undergraduate enrollment grew about 25%. That can be viewed as good or bad. Many here lamented the drop in the Universities rankings and blamed it on relaxed admissions. I think you might be able to tie that all together. One person mentioned that 20k undergrad enrollment some day in the future may have been one of her goals. With increased enrollment and future plans to grow further and with SU already bulging at the seams to "fit" all of these students (I was told some transfer students are actually housed in a hotel), University property was of high value for academic purposes. Thus the talk and the plan to use Dome property for academic purposes.

This would necessitate a new athletic building and thus the 2 year old plan shown here. Cantor and Gross were big proponents. I'm not sure why the "new" plan financed mostly by the state and county popped up, but I assumed it was a combo of cost and the state wanting to out their stamp on local economic development. But one or the other were real plans and was supported by Cantors vision at SU. Gave her more real estate and have Gross a new toy.

Now comes the new chancellor and while I don't know his vision, I'm hearing he may be more of the mindset that the Dome property isn't necessarily needed and growth in enrollment should be slowed or reversed. He isn't tossing out any idea but is going to do his own due diligence and slowed down the "decision". The indecision on a new facility may be as much SU as it is the Mayor. But that's not a bad thing necessarily.

Having said that, and the Chancellor even alluded to it, other options are also being considered, such as a major renovation to the Dome. It was mentioned that a $100m makeover could be on the table. Besides numerous changes to the inside of the Dome, the big change could be adding to it with a building attached on the west side of the Dome. This would be a 4-5 story building that would go out from the Dome and over Irving in some way.

The building would serve many purposes, some which I forget, but included offices, classrooms, house Sports Management, changing and/or locker rooms for non-athletic events, media rooms, etc. The idea would also be to increase the number of days a year the Dome is used and be able to handle any type of event. The goal would supposedly be 200 days a year that some have estimated would be several millions more a year to the coffers.

That's all I got. I think every option is on the table. SU facility on SU property, Public facility on county or city property, or a renovated Dome.
Last edited: Jan 18, 2014
rrlbees, Jan 18, 2014 Report

I was in favor of the new Stadium plan in the city. I am FAR MORE in favor of a renovated modernized Dome with a new roof, retractable or not. Add a few awesome SU sports related restaurants for people with or without tickets to go watch the game at and hear/feel the Dome rumble. Would be awesome.

For the record, I still think the Mayor is a Dolt.
 
Regarding the expansion off the West side: Isn't that basically what Duke did with Cameron? I was there for the first time in December and I noticed a large "hall of fame" type display through some windows in a building attached to Cameron. I didn't go inside but it was definitely much newer than Cameron. Also attached to this was a 6-7 story building which I was told housed the coaching offices for Duke. If we could also do this on a much larger scale I think it would be great. Mix in a basketball/football/lacrosse "hall of memories" type area and you have a great space for fans and visitors to the dome.
 
I was in favor of the new Stadium plan in the city. I am FAR MORE in favor of a renovated modernized Dome with a new roof, retractable or not. Add a few awesome SU sports related restaurants for people with or without tickets to go watch the game at and hear/feel the Dome rumble. Would be awesome.

For the record, I still think the Mayor is a Dolt.
Renovations could take 2 years. That would mean no home games in basketball or football. This isn't like putting a new kitchen in your house. Once the project starts , it would come under the authority of all kinds of city and state agency's.
 
Renovations could take 2 years. That would mean no home games in basketball or football. This isn't like putting a new kitchen in your house. Once the project starts , it would come under the authority of all kinds of city and state agency's.

There are always sacrifices and depending how much money you have, any project can be hastened.
 
CousCuse said:
Renovations could take 2 years. That would mean no home games in basketball or football. This isn't like putting a new kitchen in your house. Once the project starts , it would come under the authority of all kinds of city and state agency's.
Yes, that is the problem with Dome renovations vs new stadium. In addition to lost home field advantage, there is a huge loss of revenue. I'm guessing they could phase the construction so we didn't lose two seasons of each. Maybe one full football season and back half of one hoops season and front half of next. Not ideal.
 
CousCuse said:
Renovations could take 2 years. That would mean no home games in basketball or football. This isn't like putting a new kitchen in your house. Once the project starts , it would come under the authority of all kinds of city and state agency's.

Geez, how about we see what's actually happening before we assume they can't play in the Dome for 2 years, eh?

This freakin' board.
 
CousCuse said:
Renovations could take 2 years. That would mean no home games in basketball or football. This isn't like putting a new kitchen in your house. Once the project starts , it would come under the authority of all kinds of city and state agency's.

The whole project may take 2 years but if it is more an "addition" versus blowing out the whole west end of the Dome, the disruption might be much less. I don't think we'd lose any season.
 
SUinNYC said:
Yes, that is the problem with Dome renovations vs new stadium. In addition to lost home field advantage, there is a huge loss of revenue. I'm guessing they could phase the construction so we didn't lose two seasons of each. Maybe one full football season and back half of one hoops season and front half of next. Not ideal.

That's how they did MSG, I think.
 
The whole project may take 2 years but if it is more an "addition" versus blowing out the whole west end of the Dome, the disruption might be much less. I don't think we'd lose any season.

There's a 3 month window from mid-May to mid-August when the roof can come down and the walls can be opened up. Build the annex alongside the Dome, and wait until the off-season to connect the two.

Maybe this can be coordinated to be done during the next scheduled roof replacement.

It's tricky, but not impossible.
 

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