NBA 2017-2018 thread

[OttoinGrotto]

Zach Lowe did a pretty good write-up on his awards ballot today.

I really do think Simmons is a no brainer, it's not a knock on Mitchell, but Simmons is also a very good defender, I think when you add that in, it tips the scales pretty clearly in his favor. It's bad timing for Mitchell though, it sucks that he's not goign to win it and Malcolm Brogdon, for instance, won last year.

Gobert I think I agree on. Lowe has some real good stats in his piece. Would recommend it, if you haven't already read it.

Mitchell's a good defender too, he's just smaller than Simmons and isn't asked to be as versatile on that end.

 

[Knicks411]

Mitchell's a good defender too, he's just smaller than Simmons and isn't asked to be as versatile on that end.

Fair, but "he's a good defender, but smaller and less versatile than Simmons" kinda makes it sound like simmons is better on defense, which is all I was trying to say.

I'm not trying to knock the guy, he's been fantastic. i just think Simmons has been clearly better. But I also think Simmons is going to end up being one of the great players in league history.

 

[Knicks411]

Fwiw, (maybe not much), real plus minus has Simmons as the 4th best defensive PG in the league, and Mitchell 28th at SG.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

Fwiw, (maybe not much), real plus minus has Simmons as the 4th best defensive PG in the league, and Mitchell 28th at SG.

Who's ahead of Simmons?

 

[Knicks411]

Who's ahead of Simmons?

NBA Real Plus-Minus - National Basketball Association - ESPN

I believe it's a rate stat, so it's on a per minute or per possession basis.

I'll be honest, I don't know much about Tyus Jones, Murray and Ball definitely have good defensive reps though. It also has Gobert as the #1 defensive player in the league, which I think checks out.

 

[two3zone]

It's just so amazing to me that the NBA pushed Hinke out of Philly. He knew what he was doing and looks like a genius now, which I always though. Mcw was exactly what he was and overvalued and he ended up turning MCW into Embiid I believe or whomever the Lakers pick would've been. Amazing.

Hot take, watch LeBron go to Philly, if he did they turn into a better team than Golden State imo.

 

[STEVEHOLT]

It's just so amazing to me that the NBA pushed Hinke out of Philly. He knew what he was doing and looks like a genius now, which I always though. Mcw was exactly what he was and overvalued and he ended up turning MCW into Embiid I believe or whomever the Lakers pick would've been. Amazing.

Hot take, watch LeBron go to Philly, if he did they turn into a better team than Golden State imo.

lebron and Ben simmons together is not a good fit

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

lebron and Ben simmons together is not a good fit

That would slow Ben's progress.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

lebron and Ben simmons together is not a good fit

At this point, LeBron needs the 76ers more than the 76ers need LeBron.