NBA Thread 2020-21 Season

[OrangeDW]

And I’m not sure if they’ve been mentioned here(probably have?), but the Warriors should look at Harden too. That window is currently shut, whether they realize it or not. They should go for it, IMO.

 

[Arangeman]

Yeah they can’t get Griffin unless they have $30-40 million of players they want to trade for him, which I can’t imagine they do.

Has to match? You can’t combine an exception with players/picks? They also have a Kanter trade exception. Can you combine exceptions?

 

[OttoinGrotto]

Has to match? You can’t combine an exception with players/picks? They also have a Kanter trade exception. Can you combine exceptions?

I don't believe you can combine other salary with exceptions, and I also don't think you can stack exceptions.

 

[Day2]

This sucks. He was really a difference maker for the Nets depth.

Hard to make the Harden trade without Dinwiddie.

He was also an option for the Clippers if they decide to make an in-season change at point guard.

 

[Melancer46]

I don't believe you can combine other salary with exceptions, and I also don't think you can stack exceptions.

Correct. So it has to be $28.5 mil or less. And really, it’s more like $22 mil because of Boston’s cap limitations. They’d need to dump salary in a different move to unlock the full exception.

 

[Arangeman]

Correct. So it has to be $28.5 mil or less. And really, it’s more like $22 mil because of Boston’s cap limitations. They’d need to dump salary in a different move to unlock the full exception.

Ah. Got it. Too bad, he’s looked great. Has to be mutual interest in getting out of Detroit.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

Ah. Got it. Too bad, he’s looked great. Has to be mutual interest in getting out of Detroit.

I'm still hoping the Jazz swing Conley for Griffin.

Mitchell-O'Neale-Bojonavic-Griffin-Gobert is a nasty starting 5, then you have Clarkson, Ingles and Favors as your main bench guys. That's a squad.

 

[Knicks411]

I think he's in the category with Grant Hill of guys that were really awesome but injuries robbed fans of a lot of time with them.

Roy is a slot below that, but he was another one. I don't know if Oden would have ever gotten there.

Yeah agree you can't put Oden up with those guys, since he never reached an elite level like they did. And the game was evolving past one in which his type of player would have thrived.

In his 2 "healthy" years, his per 36 minute numbers were pretty damn good though; 15-12 with 2 blocks on 58% shooting.

Grant Hill is crazy to me because the guy basically became an iron man at the end of his career in Phoenix. From 2008-11, he missed 3 games in 3 seasons. And the year before he played 70, and the year after 49 out of 66. And he was playing 30 MPG; so he wasn't carrying a full starters load, but he was playing a lot. And he was good!

 

[OrangeDW]

 

[jncuse]

I don't believe you can combine other salary with exceptions, and I also don't think you can stack exceptions.

I am fairly certain you can stack exceptions, but not 100% on that.
Agreed on the combining with players not being allowed.

That being said you can get a 3rd team involved to make salaries work. For example a team with a bad contract will likely give up that contract for the exception... then you can flip that player acquired and your own players to match the bigger salary.

 

[jncuse]

He was also an option for the Clippers if they decide to make an in-season change at point guard.

I am not sure what the Clippers could offer for a player of Dinwiddie's caliber. Correct me if I am wrong, but they have no firsts they can deal this year and their best prospect is Kabengele? I think.

 

[jncuse]

It is crazy to me the transformation Blake Griffin has made as a player. From the above of the rim lob city guy to the 3 point bombing, great passing guy he is now; what a different player. He made 8-16 3's in his last game! He made 14 3's total in his first 3 seasons. He's a really good, well rounded player now.

I am not sure if I would call him really good yet.

Last year in 18 games (I know it was only 18 games) he was one of the most inefficient players in the entire league with an abysmal TS% of 47% on usage of 28%. He shot 35% overall and 24% from three. And 4.7 boards in 28 minutes.

 

[Knicks411]

I am not sure if I would call him really good yet.

Last year in 18 games (I know it was only 18 games) he was one of the most inefficient players in the entire league with an abysmal TS% of 47% on usage of 28%. He shot 35% overall and 24% from three. And 4.7 boards in 28 minutes.

I think he was playing hurt all of last year? In 2019 he averaged 24-8-5 on 58% true shooting and was third team all NBA. There are definitely injury issues but I'm pretty confident a healthy Blake is a really good player

 

[jncuse]

I think he was playing hurt all of last year? In 2019 he averaged 24-8-5 on 58% true shooting and was third team all NBA. There are definitely injury issues but I'm pretty confident a healthy Blake is a really good player

At the age of 31 (which is around when some NBA players get rapidly old), with injury past, he could really go either way. Back to 2019 form, or take a sizable step down from 2019.

 

[Melancer46]

I am fairly certain you can stack exceptions, but not 100% on that.
Agreed on the combining with players not being allowed.

That being said you can get a 3rd team involved to make salaries work. For example a team with a bad contract will likely give up that contract for the exception... then you can flip that player acquired and your own players to match the bigger salary.

You cannot stack exceptions with other exceptions or other player salaries.

 

[IthacaBarrel]

interesting game for the Griz tonight, 0-2 start and they should beat the Nets without KD a and Kyrie. Buzz team and Ja has been great but needs others to step up

 

[jncuse]

You cannot stack exceptions with other exceptions or other player salaries.

Yep, went and checked you are correct on the stacking.

You could use an exception more than once however. That is what I was mixing up. It's like a bank account that can draw down after each trade.

 

[jncuse]

Who had the following as the last 5 unbeaten:

Cleveland
Orlando
OKC
Indiana
Atlanta

 

[jncuse]

Read elsewhere about Kelly Oubre's amazingly bad shooting slump this year. Someone had claimed he was 0-31 on non dunk attempts, but per basketball reference one made shot was between 3-10 feet.

Per basketball reference
Oubre is 6-14 from inside 3 feet.
And 1-26 from from outside of 3 feet.

 

[Day2]

I am not sure what the Clippers could offer for a player of Dinwiddie's caliber. Correct me if I am wrong, but they have no firsts they can deal this year and their best prospect is Kabengele? I think.

Beverley or Williams. Williams would require a prospect to make the salaries work. The Clips have second round picks (most of which should be at or near the beginning of the round) at their disposal as well.

(The speculation came when it was assumed Dinwiddie would be coming off the bench.)

 

[kirbivore]

Largest lost in Clippers history today-51 points. And the Paper Clips have had some bad teams in their history.

I wished I lived in LA just to marvel in this.

 

[kirbivore]

And I’m not sure if they’ve been mentioned here(probably have?), but the Warriors should look at Harden too. That window is currently shut, whether they realize it or not. They should go for it, IMO.

 

[Day2]

I wished I lived in LA just to marvel in this.

(Imagine hating a team that’s never won anything this much.)

 

[kirbivore]

(Imagine hating a team that’s never won anything this much.)

Laker fan. This has lob city part 2 written all over it. All hype and not winning shlit.

 

[moqui]

Laker fan.

that makes it even more pathetic
your team has 17 titles. you're like a high school senior stuffing 7th graders into lockers