NBA Thread 2022-23 Season

[kirbivore]

Boston, you get to pay Jaylen almost $300 million dollars! Aren’t you stoked!

/s

I think they pass on that one.

 

[kirbivore]

Miami nay have Taylor Herro & his 20 ppg ready for Denver.

They've played better without him.

 

[Melancer46]

I thought he may have dual eligibility, giving him the out to make it at G or .

Obviously though you are right, he's great, but the guys you mentioned have been a step above. And the games played are also going to hold him back. But man the guy is really good. And when I look at it a little deeper, in the last few years the following guys have made 2nd team all NBA at : Derozan (22), Randle (21), and Siakam (20). Without litigating each of those years, I would say Butler is better than all of those guys while also acknowledging they probably had better cases in each of those seasons. (assuming that make sense)

Yeah I think that’s all true. Butler’s a better player but those guys had better seasons. DeRozan was a fringe MVP candidate that season I believe (which was kinda ridiculous in the moment but I digress).

 

[OttoinGrotto]

Yeah I think that’s all true. Butler’s a better player but those guys had better seasons. DeRozan was a fringe MVP candidate that season I believe (which was kinda ridiculous in the moment but I digress).

But it wasn't! He was awesome and the Bulls relied on him so much.

Very worthy MVP consideration.

Of course the MVP should be an awesome player.

But it can also recognize when the right guy is in the right place and is just incredibly important to his team.

 

[Orangezoo]

Do you work for the NBA, Disney/ABC, or any of the advertisers? If not why do you give a flip about the ratings?

Did you not read the last part of the sentence?

Point was its a crappy one sided matchup with fluff around ratings added in. Denver gets their first - cool story. This one is more one sided and boring than the Den LA series.

 

[CuseFaninVT]

As a 2 seed, they went down 0-3 to an 8 seed, and came back to win the next 3. Struggled against Atlanta, and barely scraped by the Sixers (another soft squad). I said that the team wasn’t going to win before the playoffs started, and I think anyone who watched them regularly knew that, whether or not they wanted to admit it.

An 8 seed that beat the 1 seed handily. You’re over the top as usual.

 

[Orangezoo]

An 8 seed that beat the 1 seed handily. You’re over the top as usual.

In fairness not really handily... Bucks choked away games 4 and 5 having good leads till very late.

 

[jordville]

 

[samspann1]

An 8 seed that beat the 1 seed handily. You’re over the top as usual.

You putting money down on Miami to beat Denver? After all, they did best the 1 seed handily….

 

[MikeSU02]

If the Heat win it all, I was trying to think of other examples in NBA history of a team winning a title without say a Top 40-50 player of all-time on their roster.

2019 Raptors -- I feel like most consider Kawhi on that level, but he's probably fringe
2004 Pistons
1979 Sonics -- their best player was Jack Sikma I think
1977 Blazers -- Walton would have been if he stayed healthy
1959 Nats -- Dolph Schayes great but not on that level I don't think

As someone else mentioned, I think Kawhi and Walton have to be considered injury guys. They were at peak powers those years tho.

I would wonder how many teams have won it with the number of undrafted guys in the actual rotation there have been like Miami.

Detroit didn’t have a star (and lucked out between rule changes, D Fish 0.4 and LA imploding as a team), but those guys were legit draft picks that played.

 

[MikeSU02]

Mentioned it already, but I think Nuggets sweep.

Maybe five games if Miami goes crazy at home one game. But I think Denver is going to sweep and this will be one of the best runs ever.

I expect Joker to average a triple double.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

Mentioned it already, but I think Nuggets sweep.

Maybe five games if Miami goes crazy at home one game. But I think Denver is going to sweep and this will be one of the best runs ever.

I expect Joker to average a triple double.

Pretty hard to feel confident in a sweep prediction.

I think this series will go 6 games. Jokic is locked in and will dominate, but I also think Miami can push a team in a way that the Nuggs haven't encountered in the playoffs yet. Wolves, Suns and Lakers all manage a certain amount of dysfunction you have't really seen out of the Heat in the playoffs.

Miami's grinded through a much tougher road to get here. They're already an edgy team. I think that will be to their advantage.

All that said, Nuggs in 6, and Jokic wins NBA finals MVP and says something that's an underhanded slight like "this is the MVP trophy that matters the most."

 

[OttoinGrotto]

Also, random thought, remember this scene in Wayne's World?


We should start referring to the undrafted Miami rotation guys as "The Shyddy Heatles."

 

[MikeSU02]

Pretty hard to feel confident in a sweep prediction.

I think this series will go 6 games. Jokic is locked in and will dominate, but I also think Miami can push a team in a way that the Nuggs haven't encountered in the playoffs yet. Wolves, Suns and Lakers all manage a certain amount of dysfunction you have't really seen out of the Heat in the playoffs.

Miami's grinded through a much tougher road to get here. They're already an edgy team. I think that will be to their advantage.

All that said, Nuggs in 6, and Jokic wins NBA finals MVP and says something that's an underhanded slight like "this is the MVP trophy that matters the most."

Fair argument. I just think Joker will thrash them. Coming off a seven game series, altitude, Joker looking forward to getting back to his horses as fast as possible. The important things.

 

[Eric15]

Fair argument. I just think Joker will thrash them. Coming off a seven game series, altitude, Joker looking forward to getting back to his horses as fast as possible. The important things.

Everything you're saying is reasonable. But the Heat have defied reason non-stop for the past 1.5 months.

I actually think the long layoff hurts Denver more than Miami in Game 1, specifically.

 

[Day2]

Everything you're saying is reasonable. But the Heat have defied reason non-stop for the past 1.5 months.

I actually think the long layoff hurts Denver more than Miami in Game 1, specifically.

Nuggets being rusty is one way of looking at Game 1.

Nuggets being rested and accustomed to the altitude is another.

 

[MikeSU02]

Everything you're saying is reasonable. But the Heat have defied reason non-stop for the past 1.5 months.

I actually think the long layoff hurts Denver more than Miami in Game 1, specifically.

We’ll see! I think they’re up 17 by halftime of game 1.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

We’ll see! I think they’re up 17 by halftime of game 1.

I like how you're getting more specific.

But I want to know how many rebounds you think Gordon will have by the end of the 3d quarter of game 2.

 

[Day2]

We’ll see! I think they’re up 17 by halftime of game 1.

I’m with you. Heat are going to be exhausted after playing a Game 7 (and 20 games total this postseason), then flying back to Miami, and then flying all the way to Denver. On top of that, they’ll have trouble breathing.

 

[cliftonparksufan]

Schenectady own native son. His Linton team beat Lew Alcindor's Power Memorial in 1961. Back when Section 2 was regularly churning out some big time players.

Riley and Kareem Go Way Back

Before there was Pat Riley, the most successful NBA coach of the decade, there was Pat Riley, high-scoring basketball star for Linton High School in Schenectady.

www.latimes.com

 

[Cusefan0307]

Schenectady own native son. His Linton team beat Lew Alcindor's Power Memorial in 1961. Back when Section 2 was regularly churning out some big time players.

Riley and Kareem Go Way Back

Before there was Pat Riley, the most successful NBA coach of the decade, there was Pat Riley, high-scoring basketball star for Linton High School in Schenectady.

www.latimes.com

My mother was a cheerleader for Linton that day.

 

[MikeSU02]

I like how you're getting more specific.

But I want to know how many rebounds you think Gordon will have by the end of the 3d quarter of game 2.

Not sure about Gordon, but give Joker 18, 12 and 7 at half.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

My mother was a cheerleader for Linton that day.

...

She hot?

 

[Cusefan0307]

...

She hot?

Hahahaha…More like dead for a decade. Apparently Pat Riley though so.

 

[CuseFaninVT]

You putting money down on Miami to beat Denver? After all, they did best the 1 seed handily….

No, but it won’t be a sweep like the lakers.