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[Forza Azzurri]

Nothing but disdain for idiots who post what you did

Aw...poor, widdle Cowchokes fan raging because they lost and I don't like them...

Tough...Deal with it...

 

[Alsacs]

Cowboys should keep Romo as Dak insurance. Romo's cap hit would be huge even if traded. Saving a couple of million for Romo's benefit to play elsewhere isn't smart.
The dude is one hit from injury again. When you break your collarbone once it becomes frail and never fully heals leaving you open for further breaks.
Denver apparently doesn't want. The only other team that makes sense would be Houston.
Jerry should tell him to stay take his money and be the backup.
Cowboys need a new RT for Doug Free, and a new CB they will be a 11-12 win team for the next couple of years.

 

[Forza Azzurri]

Enjoy it now because this was 1991 all over again. Where the Triplets fell to Detroit before going on a 4 year tear that the league hasn't seen since. Future is with Dak and Zeke is bright.

Not sure it was 91 again but there is no doubt you guys are both young and talented and are going to be in the mix...

 

[Guinness]

Not sure it was 91 again but there is no doubt you guys are both young and talented and are going to be in the mix...

Dak had the greatest rookie season ever and followed it up with dualing the best QB currently the game to the very last possession. We are going to be fine and if Jason Garret can do to the DL what he did to the OL we will be more than fine. Going to be a fun couple of years.

 

[Guinness]

Cowboys should keep Romo as Dak insurance. Romo's cap hit would be huge even if traded. Saving a couple of million for Romo's benefit to play elsewhere isn't smart.
The dude is one hit from injury again. When you break your collarbone once it becomes frail and never fully heals leaving you open for further breaks.
Denver apparently doesn't want. The only other team that makes sense would be Houston.
Jerry should tell him to stay take his money and be the backup.
Cowboys need a new RT for Doug Free, and a new CB they will be a 11-12 win team for the next couple of years.

Free is the weak spot on that OL. They have tried finding a replacement but have been unable to do so. They won't spend any more picks on the OL so unless it comes in FA I doubt he gets replaced next year.

Corners are ok but I think our 'bend don't break' defensive philosophy just sucks. We have them playing so far off the receivers. I cannot stand it. Carr is near retirement and Claiborne is a FA so we could see major turnover there as well.

 

[bpo57]

Whom that I cited am I overrating?

I think you believe their defense is better than it really is and you underestimate their deficiencies on both lines. Not saying they're terrible in that sense but I believe the Steelers will control both sides of the line of scrimmage.

 

[Forza Azzurri]

Dak had the greatest rookie season ever and followed it up with dualing the best QB currently the game to the very last possession. We are going to be fine and if Jason Garret can do to the DL what he did to the OL we will be more than fine. Going to be a fun couple of years.

Three in four years is Herculean...Pats did it in early 2000s but, even with best coach and top QB, have only won one out of last 10...

Very hard to sustain that level of dominance...

 

[Alsacs]

I think you believe their defense is better than it really is and you underestimate their deficiencies on both lines. Not saying they're terrible in that sense but I believe the Steelers will control both sides of the line of scrimmage.

The Patriots clearly don't have a top 5 D. They have a top 10 though.
It is well balanced with depth across the board.
Nikovich/Long/Sheard/Flowers is a solid 4 man pass rush to rotate at DE. They are all getting pressure in spots.
Malcolm Brown/Alan Branch/Vince Valentine have been really good at DT. Branch on run downs Valentine on pass downs.
Donta Hightower/Roberts/Van Noy/McClellin. 4 solid LBs. Hightower All-Pro/pro Bowler, Roberts is a beast in run stopping, Van Noy in pass D. McClellin has that hurdle blocked FG and has gotten more reps.
Butler/Ryan/Rowe very solid secondary at CBs. Butler is a legit #1 CB, Ryan has been great with a safety over the top helping, Rowe has handled the big WRs.
McCourty/Chung/Harmon at S. McCourty is an All-Pro/Pro Bowl guy. Chung has been great at defending TEs and being a nickel LB. Harmon at FS solid as a rock.

The unit is not Denver because it doesn't have high end talent Denver does or other elite Ds. You underrate how solid as a whole this unit is. They are good at preventing long plays. They allowed only 2 plays over 40 yards the whole year. They make you grind them out and not make mistakes. Ben on the road has been mediocre.
New England 31 Pittsburgh 24.

 

[BomberOrange]

Aw...poor, widdle Cowchokes fan raging because they lost and I don't like them...

Tough...Deal with it...

First off you called out all Cowboys fans with your post. Classy. I give all the credit in the world to GB for winning an amazing game. Dallas had a great year and their future looks brighter than any other team in the NFL. Who's your team?

Second., don't you have a soccer game to watch?

 

[ForCuseSake]

Jaylon Smith in tandem with Sean Lee will be awesome.

Sean Lee is extremely overrated.

He's best against predominantly run teams that throw screens and underneath dink n dunk offenses.

He's awful in coverage and is brittle for a MLB. He's the defensive version of Romo IMHO.

 

[Cusefan0307]

The Patriots clearly don't have a top 5 D. They have a top 10 though.
It is well balanced with depth across the board.
Nikovich/Long/Sheard/Flowers is a solid 4 man pass rush to rotate at DE. They are all getting pressure in spots.
Malcolm Brown/Alan Branch/Vince Valentine have been really good at DT. Branch on run downs Valentine on pass downs.
Donta Hightower/Roberts/Van Noy/McClellin. 4 solid LBs. Hightower All-Pro/pro Bowler, Roberts is a beast in run stopping, Van Noy in pass D. McClellin has that hurdle blocked FG and has gotten more reps.
Butler/Ryan/Rowe very solid secondary at CBs. Butler is a legit #1 CB, Ryan has been great with a safety over the top helping, Rowe has handled the big WRs.
McCourty/Chung/Harmon at S. McCourty is an All-Pro/Pro Bowl guy. Chung has been great at defending TEs and being a nickel LB. Harmon at FS solid as a rock.

The unit is not Denver because it doesn't have high end talent Denver does or other elite Ds. You underrate how solid as a whole this unit is. They are good at preventing long plays. They allowed only 2 plays over 40 yards the whole year. They make you grind them out and not make mistakes. Ben on the road has been mediocre.
New England 31 Pittsburgh 24.

I don't see Pittsburgh scoring 24 points. The Pats give up yards, but not points. Pittsburgh is going to score 3 touchdowns? Ben only has 9 touchdowns on the road all year.

 

[ForCuseSake]

I'm not calling for Garrett to be fired. I generally dislike spiking the ball on most occasions. If one can get everyone lined-up to snap the ball, one can run a play. Shouldn't you have a play ready for such a scenario? The offense has a huge advantage over the defense in a hurry-up scenario. Nobody knows what would have happened, but running an actual play instead of wasting a down would have improved the team's chances of getting a first down, scoring the game-winning touchdown, or at least kicking a safer field goad and giving Rodgers less time to score.

I agree - a well coached team has the next two plays in a two minute drill called and is more judicious with play calling.

I've seen enough of Garrett's teams in the 4th to know they're horrific at situational football (see that dipshite Terrence Williams on opening day).

It's astonishing how much Jackass Jerry tolerates the collective stupidity of his roster/coaching staff.

 

[Alsacs]

I don't see Pittsburgh scoring 24 points. The Pats give up yards, but not points. Pittsburgh is going to score 3 touchdowns? Ben only has 9 touchdowns on the road all year.

I am giving them respect. I think they will get in the low 20s. Pats will get in the high 20s/low 30s.

 

[Briancuse]

I agree - a well coached team has the next two plays in a two minute drill called and is more judicious with play calling.

I've seen enough of Garrett's teams in the 4th to know they're horrific at situational football (see that dipshite Terrence Williams on opening day).

It's astonishing how much Jackass Jerry tolerates the collective stupidity of his roster/coaching staff.

Garrett is a puppet, thats why he is the coach, we have so much more talent than Gb, and it took us till midway through the 2nd qtr to get going, garrett isn't a sb winning coach.

 

[Briancuse]

Sean Lee is extremely overrated.

He's best against predominantly run teams that throw screens and underneath dink n dunk offenses.

He's awful in coverage and is brittle for a MLB. He's the defensive version of Romo IMHO.

He is a very good player, the problem is he can never stay on the field.

 

[Briancuse]

Can we pause for a moment in the 'Andy Reid is a bad clock manager but a good coach' thread, because that statement is an inalienable truth...to point out that Dallas lost.

I repeat...Dallas. LOST.

Their all everything season was as good as the browns, but resulted with a worse draft pick.

21 years 2 playoff wins.

Basically any poke fan 30 and under bandwagoned themselves to yesterdays champion...and roots for a loosahhh.

As you were...

And yet they still have the brightest future of any team in the league.

 

[orange79]

How can "they still have the brightest future of any team in the league" and yet "garrett isn't a sb winning coach"?

 

[Cusefan0307]

And yet they still have the brightest future of any team in the league.

The 49ers thought that about 4 years ago as well.

 

[Briancuse]

The 49ers thought that about 4 years ago as well.

The Niners never had a franchise qb.

 

[Alsacs]

Garrett is a puppet, thats why he is the coach, we have so much more talent than Gb, and it took us till midway through the 2nd qtr to get going, garrett isn't a sb winning coach.

When Jerry Jones forced Jimmy Johnson out strictly for ego purposes that told anyone who follows football he cares more about getting credit than winning.
Bob Kraft did the same thing to Bill Parcells. He wanted to be an active owner in draft decisions. That pissed Parcells off. Parcells wanted to take Tony Brackens in the 1996 NFL draft at #7 overall. Kraft wanted a WR he stupidly took Terry Glenn over Marvin Harrison.
That pissed Parcells off and he left the team after the following year's SB for the NY Jets.
Kraft learned from mistake after hiring Pete Carroll to be a Yes Man to him and gave complete control of the operation to Bbll Belichick.
Kraft doesn't get the credit for winning but he has a won 4 SBs since.

Jerry cares more about getting credit while winning. If he gave control to a good coach and just sat back and made money he would have a better organization.
Jason Garrett is a company stooge to Jerry and does whatever he tells to do on personnel.

 

[BomberOrange]

Can we pause for a moment in the 'Andy Reid is a bad clock manager but a good coach' thread, because that statement is an inalienable truth...to point out that Dallas lost.

I repeat...Dallas. LOST.

Their all everything season was as good as the browns, but resulted with a worse draft pick.

21 years 2 playoff wins.

Basically any poke fan 30 and under bandwagoned themselves to yesterdays champion...and roots for a loosahhh.

As you were...

Seriously, this is the dumbest post I've ever seen on this board, but considering the source I am not surprised. All everything season"? They lost their first and second string QBs in the preseason and overachieved BIG time! This isn't the giants where they spent all that money for the defense only to lose in the wildcard round. I was hoping for an 8 win year at best. Yet they win 13, easily win the division, and are set for a nice run in the future.
21 years...2 playoff wins. ...still more titles than the nj giants after all these years.

 

[orange79]

Seriously, this is the dumbest post I've ever seen on this board, but considering the source I am not surprised. All everything season"? They lost their first and second string QBs in the preseason and overachieved BIG time! This isn't the giants where they spent all that money for the defense only to lose in the wildcard round. I wax hoping for an 8 win year at best. Yet they win 13, easily win the division, and are set for a nice run in the future.
21 years...2 playoff wins. ...still more titles than the nj giants after all these years.

True (but only 1 more). But so is the first half of your sentence. 21 years. 21. Many posters on this board weren't even alive the last time the Pokes won a Super Bowl.

What have you done lately?

Oh, right. Nothing.

 

[BomberOrange]

True (but only 1 more). But so is the first half of your sentence. 21 years. 21. Many posters on this board weren't even alive the last time the Pokes won a Super Bowl.

What have you done lately?

Oh, right. Nothing.

My post wasn't for you but glad to see you understand that with a 20 yr lapse your team still doesn't measure up.

 

[Bayside44]

My post wasn't for you but glad to see you understand that with a 20 yr lapse your team still doesn't measure up.

I really don't get it, you're arguing with a guy whose team beat you twice this year and has actually won Super Bowls - exciting ones - in this current era. And judging by the language I don't gather the Pokes fans here weren't in their age of reason when Staubach was QBing.

 

[orange79]

My post wasn't for you but glad to see you understand that with a 20 yr lapse your team still doesn't measure up.

Yup. 2 titles in the last 9 years. We sure don't measure up. As you said, the Pokes don't even have 2 playoff wins in the last 21 years.