NFL Thread

[Trueblue25]

Even I would take Eli over

And zat is why you fail.

 

[Day2]

I enjoy watching/torturing myself by watching bad QBs who get a chance to start in the NFL lol. I'm always hoping to witness the next Tom Brady kinda situation unfolding.

Then you must have missed his games against Indy, Chicago, New Orleans and Tampa Bay. He also gave them a fighter's chance against the Seahawks and Titans. That was the year the 'Hawks won the Super Bowl. The Colts and Saints were very good that season (and the Colts game was on the road).

Contrast that with Bradford, who picked up a surprise Week 1 win against the Cardinals along with two more wins against the Texans and Jags, arguably the two worst teams on the schedule. The losses were all blowouts.

 

[bpo57]

NFL.com doesn't have Bradford in their top 100 players in the league.
16 QBs are ranked.

QB Index: How do 'Top 100' QBs of 2017 stack up?

1. Brady
2. Rodgers
3. Brees
4. Rothlisberger
5. Ryan
6. Luck
7. Wilson
8. Carr
9. Rivers
10. Newton
11. Prescott
12. Stafford
13. Winston
14. Mariota
15. Cousins
16. Smith

I would put more QBs ahead of Bradford as well. Put Carson Palmer, Carson Wentz, Joe Flacco and you get 19th in the league.
I won't even use Eli as he sucks.

Note to Kaiser your QB who you think is a HOFer isn't even a top half QB now.

Still nowhere near high 20s. Let's see what that list looks like this time next year.

 

[bpo57]

I understand that I'm in the minority. And there's probably a decent chance that I'll feel differently by the end of the year. I expect Jameis, Mariota, or Dak to jump in there. But for now, the QBs that I would say are competing with Bradford in that range are:

Dak - good rookie season, but it's still too early for me
Jameis - too inaccurate/turnover prone so far in his career. I do love him though.
Mariota - had a really good stretch last season against a slew of god awful defenses; I want to see him build on that, but he had a rough start to the season this week
Rivers - his arm just doesn't hold up over 16 games anymore. By the 2nd half of the season, he looks like he'd kill to have Chad Pennington's arm strength and he turns into a turnover machine.
Cousins - He's solid, but Bradford is more accurate both in the short and deep game
Stafford - Great arm, love his heart, but he misfires/forces it far too much still.

I don't think anyone else really warrants a discussion.

I'm with you in the sense that these guys saying Bradford sucks are going to eat crow this year because the guy has an average OL and decent weapons as opposed to a horrible OL and decent weapons.

Add one more name for your list - remember this is now - not what they accomplished five years ago - Carson Wentz.

 

[Alsacs]

Still nowhere near high 20s. Let's see what that list looks like this time next year.

High 20s is 20-22 that is debatable if I truly broke the remaining options.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

 

[kirbivore]

Ray Lewis' induction speech will be insufferable

 

[bpo57]

High 20s is 20-22 that is debatable if I truly broke the remaining options.

I took high 20s to mean 27-29. In any event anywhere in the 20s is absurd.

 

[Cowtown]

Ray Lewis' induction speech will be insufferable

I'd rather watch Celebrity Name Game re-runs.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

 

[Cowtown]

15 punts tonight. Fifteen! A normal game has what, 65-68 plays? Sweet Mother of Mary, I'm glad I had to go out.

 

[CuseFaninVT]

15 punts tonight. Fifteen! A normal game has what, 65-68 plays? Sweet Mother of Mary, I'm glad I had to go out.

Great game to fall asleep to...

What has happened to Andy Dalton? Good Lord he looks like a different player. So hesitant.

 

[Melancer46]

Great game to fall asleep to...

What has happened to Andy Dalton? Good Lord he looks like a different player. So hesitant.

No longer has an offensive line and his receiving options have declined the past few seasons. I think the O-Line is the big difference.

 

[Briancuse]

Great game to fall asleep to...

What has happened to Andy Dalton? Good Lord he looks like a different player. So hesitant.

Honestly, how does Marvin Lewis still have a job? The guy has never won a playoff game.

 

[CuseFaninVT]

Honestly, how does Marvin Lewis still have a job? The guy has never won a playoff game.

Told my son last night that Lewis will be the first coach fired this year. He has to be.

 

[Melancer46]

Honestly, how does Marvin Lewis still have a job? The guy has never won a playoff game.

To be fair, I'm sure a lot of NFL teams would kill for the level of success the Bengals have had during his tenure there. I mean, he's made the playoffs, what, 7 times since the Bills last playoff appearance?

 

[Melancer46]

Told my son last night that Lewis will be the first coach fired this year. He has to be.

I think Pagano probably has a shot at beating him. Or Bowles if the Jets organization feel like being lol

 

[Briancuse]

To be fair, I'm sure a lot of NFL teams would kill for the level of success the Bengals have had during his tenure there. I mean, he's made the playoffs, what, 7 times since the Bills last playoff appearance?

He's been there a long time, they have flattened out, you have to win at least one playoff game. That and his teams are so undisciplined.

 

[KaiserUEO]

Told my son last night that Lewis will be the first coach fired this year. He has to be.

He fired the OC, the CYA has begun...

 

[Melancer46]

He's been there a long time, they have flattened out, you have to win at least one playoff game. That and his teams are so undisciplined.

I don't disagree and that's why he'll likely be fired if they have a bad season, but I can't really say he's been a poor coach considering how many playoff appearances they've made. They've also had some awful luck in the playoffs if I remember right with AJ, Bernard, or Dalton being out for their playoff games.

Point being you can do much worse than making the playoffs and being an early exit every year. He's probably the most successful coach the Bengals have ever had.

 

[Day2]

I don't disagree and that's why he'll likely be fired if they have a bad season, but I can't really say he's been a poor coach considering how many playoff appearances they've made. They've also had some awful luck in the playoffs if I remember right with AJ, Bernard, or Dalton being out for their playoff games.

Point being you can do much worse than making the playoffs and being an early exit every year. He's probably the most successful coach the Bengals have ever had.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

 

[Briancuse]

I don't disagree and that's why he'll likely be fired if they have a bad season, but I can't really say he's been a poor coach considering how many playoff appearances they've made. They've also had some awful luck in the playoffs if I remember right with AJ, Bernard, or Dalton being out for their playoff games.

Point being you can do much worse than making the playoffs and being an early exit every year. He's probably the most successful coach the Bengals have ever had.

Paul Brown and Samy Wysche would disagree.

 

[Cowtown]

I think Pagano probably has a shot at beating him. Or Bowles if the Jets organization feel like being lol

I'm baffled that Bowles was returned for this year - unless they'd gotten the word that no one else would take the job.

 

[Briancuse]

I'm baffled that Bowles was returned for this year - unless they'd gotten the word that no one else would take the job.

The Jets will hire a young offensive guy next year if they get one of those top 3 qbs.