Class of 2015 - OLB Shyheim (Shy) Cullen (MA) Signed LOI | Page 12 | Syracusefan.com

Class of 2015 OLB Shyheim (Shy) Cullen (MA) Signed LOI

Bambrewer said:
Dang wife and kids ruining all my fun... He doesn't want to take me to miamai she won't let him commit... I'm going to bed
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Dad's are only ATM machines.
 
ImperialOrange said:
I haven't been a subscriber there since this site started up in 2011 so I'm not sure what his articles contain anymore. I liked his work when I was over there but confused as to why, a recruit he has direct contact with, isn't updated more frequently.
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Not sure what is up in this particular case but I believe that M.M. does a great job overall. His articles and interviews are usually very well done. I dare to say he may even be getting spoon fed some info from the new staff (educated guess) Imo, getting a subscription there is definitely a good move if you love recruiting. Imo, the conversation here is usually better but the recruiting content there is much more substantive.

My two cents.
 
Louie and Bouie said:
Not sure what is up in this particular case but I believe that M.M. does a great job overall. His articles and interviews are usually very well done. I dare to say he may even be getting spoon fed some info from the new staff (educated guess) Imo, getting a subscription there is definitely a good move if you love recruiting. Imo, the conversation here is usually better but the recruiting content there is much more substantive.

My two cents.
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he is definitely getting information handed to him.

the other place just throws darts. the quality, and accuracy of information isn't even comparable.
 
not sure any one here wants to hear it but Shy and I did end up spending the weekend in Miami
 
Bambrewer said:
not sure any one here wants to hear it but Shy and I did end up spending the weekend in Miami
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Please share your experience. I always like to hear about the perception of other programs and coaching staffs.
 
Well the head of recruiting for Miami and Shy had been emailing and messaging for a while and had asked us to come to camp. Shy was getting very close to committing to Syracuse and his mother and I were worried he would do so without looking at other options. So Shy and I flew in for the camp yesterday. We started off waiting at the top of this set of stairs going into the registration area. Shy had on one of his superman under armour shirts (i know your all shocked). It is somthing I really cant get used to but everytime we go to these "supposed to be" capitols of football... people stare at Shy. Maybe because I see him everyday and just am used to the size of him but it cracks me up they all do the same thing they see him and the kinda look down as if to say OMG ...I wasnt looking at you. Its kinda funny. So we register and get jerseys. They weighed Shy in and got height...they have him at 210lbs and 5 11...starting to have no faith in scales and rulers lol. The 210 is acurate his meds he started taking has changed his appetite... we had the doctor change his meds last week...cant have his appetite going down. The height well 5 11... 6 feet its close enough. So they send the kids out on to the field and they warm up in large groups. Then they line them up and have them run the 40...they didnt give us the time but I videoed it using a timed app and I have it some where around 4.67. Still not his best but either way its fine. So then they break them into groups by offensive position. Shy goes with running backs. I move around the field to watch from as close as I can and kinda stand back behind everyone. I like to hear what the parents are talking about so I can decide what conversations I want to be apart of. This time there is a group of 3 people there talking about Shy... which happens to be one of my favorite football topics so I kinda move over and listen to them. They were saying he must be a college student. So I said no he is 16. So they look at me kinda funny and one guy said oh are you his coach? I said no his dad...which again gets a lot of strange looks. So we watch the drills and Shy is killing it. He is moving good, fast and looking great. The coaches working with him are excited yelling watch how he is doing it to the other kids. One of the parents says he looks great and I said good cause this isnt his primary position wait till the defense drills come up. So the go thru and are about to finish up offense and they are doing this drill where the have to run forward run in a circle around a cone run forward run around in a circle run forward. Shy did the first one great the second one I see him kinda pull up on the run in a circle part. Its like 92 degrees as humid as any day I have ever seen and Im thinking crap he is gonna pass out. But they finished up the offense and sent them for drinks and Shy looked great the rest of day. They switch to defense and the head recruiter is the linbacker coach so he is going to be running the drills with Shy. He pulls shy aside for a minute to talk to him then they get right to work. Well about this time these 4 guys show up dressed in the same outfitts and I can hear them introduce them to kids as the starting running backs and linebackers. He introduces one of them as their starting middle linebacker a senior. Shy is a good 2 inches taller than this kid and is in the same shape though maybe about 10lbs lighter and Im thinking to myself geez I thought these kids would be huge. I have no doubt shy has the size to start as a freshman. He is almost the size of the starters and is 4 years younger. The players all kinda stood near Shy and talked with him asking him what he had for offers and were stunned he only had 1. They all said they would love to have him play with them. Shy did great on the drills and they started having him work against the current hurricanes to demonstrate to the other kids how to do drills...He did great. Then the coach pulled him out of the drills and took him to the other corner of the field and worked with him one on one. He did well but was having trouble with one drill but after working with the coach made a good change. Later the coach told me he was having trouble with the drill and felt it was because he was confusing a running backs approach with the line backer approach and when he got into a set single position it wouldnt be a factor. next came a very welcome down pour that cooled things off just in time to eat lunch. after lunch it was back to skill work. he did great in both offense and defense. This time he had some coaches from FIU. They loved Shy...I wouldnt be surprised if Shy hears from them soon. A couple hours of skill work and they broke into one on ones. First time that Shy gets up in coverage this speedy little tight end smokes him. Im standing there like what the hell just happened? Shy comes running back and the coach says why didnt you bump him? And Shy says its no contact I didnt think we could. The coach says of course you can...well that was it for getting beat. He knocked evey kid they put him against on their ass right at the line. When they got up he undercut every route and knocked down every pass. Then came the end of camp so they lined them all up and had them run 50 yards. they broke them into 3 groups by position...after 6 hours of camp Shy out ran all the backers and secondary he was with. Then came the final speech and I kinda walked over behind the recruiter coach Barrows and had my glasses and a hat on so he didnt know I was standing there. I heard him say grab that kid Shy and his dad I want to meet with him. Then he grabbed some one else and said find Shy I need to meet with him in the office. So I walked over and took off my glasses and he saw me He said you want to take a campus tour? We said yeah and took a tour with a player. Very nice campus. Then we went back to the main office and met with coach Barrows and he gave us a tour of the facilities all new and very nice. He sat and talked with us for a while and said he was aware Shy would probably commit to syracuse and had nothing but goood things to say about the Syracuse school and program. We had to catch a flight out in a about an hour and a half so he walked us out to the car and said he would be in touch and thanked us for coming down. Over all it was a good camp getting different coaching is always a good thing. Shy did well...Im not sure if he will get an offer out of it but we can work on the things the coach gave us constructive criticism of and be a stronger player in the end.
 
Bambrewer said:
Well the head of recruiting for Miami and Shy had been emailing and messaging for a while and had asked us to come to camp. Shy was getting very close to committing to Syracuse and his mother and I were worried he would do so without looking at other options. So Shy and I flew in for the camp yesterday. We started off waiting at the top of this set of stairs going into the registration area. Shy had on one of his superman under armour shirts (i know your all shocked). It is somthing I really cant get used to but everytime we go to these "supposed to be" capitols of football... people stare at Shy. Maybe because I see him everyday and just am used to the size of him but it cracks me up they all do the same thing they see him and the kinda look down as if to say OMG ...I wasnt looking at you. Its kinda funny. So we register and get jerseys. They weighed Shy in and got height...they have him at 210lbs and 5 11...starting to have no faith in scales and rulers lol. The 210 is acurate his meds he started taking has changed his appetite... we had the doctor change his meds last week...cant have his appetite going down. The height well 5 11... 6 feet its close enough. So they send the kids out on to the field and they warm up in large groups. Then they line them up and have them run the 40...they didnt give us the time but I videoed it using a timed app and I have it some where around 4.67. Still not his best but either way its fine. So then they break them into groups by offensive position. Shy goes with running backs. I move around the field to watch from as close as I can and kinda stand back behind everyone. I like to hear what the parents are talking about so I can decide what conversations I want to be apart of. This time there is a group of 3 people there talking about Shy... which happens to be one of my favorite football topics so I kinda move over and listen to them. They were saying he must be a college student. So I said no he is 16. So they look at me kinda funny and one guy said oh are you his coach? I said no his dad...which again gets a lot of strange looks. So we watch the drills and Shy is killing it. He is moving good, fast and looking great. The coaches working with him are excited yelling watch how he is doing it to the other kids. One of the parents says he looks great and I said good cause this isnt his primary position wait till the defense drills come up. So the go thru and are about to finish up offense and they are doing this drill where the have to run forward run in a circle around a cone run forward run around in a circle run forward. Shy did the first one great the second one I see him kinda pull up on the run in a circle part. Its like 92 degrees as humid as any day I have ever seen and Im thinking crap he is gonna pass out. But they finished up the offense and sent them for drinks and Shy looked great the rest of day. They switch to defense and the head recruiter is the linbacker coach so he is going to be running the drills with Shy. He pulls shy aside for a minute to talk to him then they get right to work. Well about this time these 4 guys show up dressed in the same outfitts and I can hear them introduce them to kids as the starting running backs and linebackers. He introduces one of them as their starting middle linebacker a senior. Shy is a good 2 inches taller than this kid and is in the same shape though maybe about 10lbs lighter and Im thinking to myself geez I thought these kids would be huge. I have no doubt shy has the size to start as a freshman. He is almost the size of the starters and is 4 years younger. The players all kinda stood near Shy and talked with him asking him what he had for offers and were stunned he only had 1. They all said they would love to have him play with them. Shy did great on the drills and they started having him work against the current hurricanes to demonstrate to the other kids how to do drills...He did great. Then the coach pulled him out of the drills and took him to the other corner of the field and worked with him one on one. He did well but was having trouble with one drill but after working with the coach made a good change. Later the coach told me he was having trouble with the drill and felt it was because he was confusing a running backs approach with the line backer approach and when he got into a set single position it wouldnt be a factor. next came a very welcome down pour that cooled things off just in time to eat lunch. after lunch it was back to skill work. he did great in both offense and defense. This time he had some coaches from FIU. They loved Shy...I wouldnt be surprised if Shy hears from them soon. A couple hours of skill work and they broke into one on ones. First time that Shy gets up in coverage this speedy little tight end smokes him. Im standing there like what the hell just happened? Shy comes running back and the coach says why didnt you bump him? And Shy says its no contact I didnt think we could. The coach says of course you can...well that was it for getting beat. He knocked evey kid they put him against on their ass right at the line. When they got up he undercut every route and knocked down every pass. Then came the end of camp so they lined them all up and had them run 50 yards. they broke them into 3 groups by position...after 6 hours of camp Shy out ran all the backers and secondary he was with. Then came the final speech and I kinda walked over behind the recruiter coach Barrows and had my glasses and a hat on so he didnt know I was standing there. I heard him say grab that kid Shy and his dad I want to meet with him. Then he grabbed some one else and said find Shy I need to meet with him in the office. So I walked over and took off my glasses and he saw me He said you want to take a campus tour? We said yeah and took a tour with a player. Very nice campus. Then we went back to the main office and met with coach Barrows and he gave us a tour of the facilities all new and very nice. He sat and talked with us for a while and said he was aware Shy would probably commit to syracuse and had nothing but goood things to say about the Syracuse school and program. We had to catch a flight out in a about an hour and a half so he walked us out to the car and said he would be in touch and thanked us for coming down. Over all it was a good camp getting different coaching is always a good thing. Shy did well...Im not sure if he will get an offer out of it but we can work on the things the coach gave us constructive criticism of and be a stronger player in the end.
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Great writeup sir! Hope Coach Barrows was spot on about Shy's future destination ;)
 
Bambrewer said:
Well the head of recruiting for Miami and Shy had been emailing and messaging for a while and had asked us to come to camp. Shy was getting very close to committing to Syracuse and his mother and I were worried he would do so without looking at other options. So Shy and I flew in for the camp yesterday. We started off waiting at the top of this set of stairs going into the registration area. Shy had on one of his superman under armour shirts (i know your all shocked). It is somthing I really cant get used to but everytime we go to these "supposed to be" capitols of football... people stare at Shy. Maybe because I see him everyday and just am used to the size of him but it cracks me up they all do the same thing they see him and the kinda look down as if to say OMG ...I wasnt looking at you. Its kinda funny. So we register and get jerseys. They weighed Shy in and got height...they have him at 210lbs and 5 11...starting to have no faith in scales and rulers lol. The 210 is acurate his meds he started taking has changed his appetite... we had the doctor change his meds last week...cant have his appetite going down. The height well 5 11... 6 feet its close enough. So they send the kids out on to the field and they warm up in large groups. Then they line them up and have them run the 40...they didnt give us the time but I videoed it using a timed app and I have it some where around 4.67. Still not his best but either way its fine. So then they break them into groups by offensive position. Shy goes with running backs. I move around the field to watch from as close as I can and kinda stand back behind everyone. I like to hear what the parents are talking about so I can decide what conversations I want to be apart of. This time there is a group of 3 people there talking about Shy... which happens to be one of my favorite football topics so I kinda move over and listen to them. They were saying he must be a college student. So I said no he is 16. So they look at me kinda funny and one guy said oh are you his coach? I said no his dad...which again gets a lot of strange looks. So we watch the drills and Shy is killing it. He is moving good, fast and looking great. The coaches working with him are excited yelling watch how he is doing it to the other kids. One of the parents says he looks great and I said good cause this isnt his primary position wait till the defense drills come up. So the go thru and are about to finish up offense and they are doing this drill where the have to run forward run in a circle around a cone run forward run around in a circle run forward. Shy did the first one great the second one I see him kinda pull up on the run in a circle part. Its like 92 degrees as humid as any day I have ever seen and Im thinking crap he is gonna pass out. But they finished up the offense and sent them for drinks and Shy looked great the rest of day. They switch to defense and the head recruiter is the linbacker coach so he is going to be running the drills with Shy. He pulls shy aside for a minute to talk to him then they get right to work. Well about this time these 4 guys show up dressed in the same outfitts and I can hear them introduce them to kids as the starting running backs and linebackers. He introduces one of them as their starting middle linebacker a senior. Shy is a good 2 inches taller than this kid and is in the same shape though maybe about 10lbs lighter and Im thinking to myself geez I thought these kids would be huge. I have no doubt shy has the size to start as a freshman. He is almost the size of the starters and is 4 years younger. The players all kinda stood near Shy and talked with him asking him what he had for offers and were stunned he only had 1. They all said they would love to have him play with them. Shy did great on the drills and they started having him work against the current hurricanes to demonstrate to the other kids how to do drills...He did great. Then the coach pulled him out of the drills and took him to the other corner of the field and worked with him one on one. He did well but was having trouble with one drill but after working with the coach made a good change. Later the coach told me he was having trouble with the drill and felt it was because he was confusing a running backs approach with the line backer approach and when he got into a set single position it wouldnt be a factor. next came a very welcome down pour that cooled things off just in time to eat lunch. after lunch it was back to skill work. he did great in both offense and defense. This time he had some coaches from FIU. They loved Shy...I wouldnt be surprised if Shy hears from them soon. A couple hours of skill work and they broke into one on ones. First time that Shy gets up in coverage this speedy little tight end smokes him. Im standing there like what the hell just happened? Shy comes running back and the coach says why didnt you bump him? And Shy says its no contact I didnt think we could. The coach says of course you can...well that was it for getting beat. He knocked evey kid they put him against on their ass right at the line. When they got up he undercut every route and knocked down every pass. Then came the end of camp so they lined them all up and had them run 50 yards. they broke them into 3 groups by position...after 6 hours of camp Shy out ran all the backers and secondary he was with. Then came the final speech and I kinda walked over behind the recruiter coach Barrows and had my glasses and a hat on so he didnt know I was standing there. I heard him say grab that kid Shy and his dad I want to meet with him. Then he grabbed some one else and said find Shy I need to meet with him in the office. So I walked over and took off my glasses and he saw me He said you want to take a campus tour? We said yeah and took a tour with a player. Very nice campus. Then we went back to the main office and met with coach Barrows and he gave us a tour of the facilities all new and very nice. He sat and talked with us for a while and said he was aware Shy would probably commit to syracuse and had nothing but goood things to say about the Syracuse school and program. We had to catch a flight out in a about an hour and a half so he walked us out to the car and said he would be in touch and thanked us for coming down. Over all it was a good camp getting different coaching is always a good thing. Shy did well...Im not sure if he will get an offer out of it but we can work on the things the coach gave us constructive criticism of and be a stronger player in the end.
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And that's how we do it in the NE. Congrats to you and Shy - hard work always pays off.
 
Great write-up. Interesting that Barrows "knew" Shy may commit to SU.

In any case, what were Shy's impressions of the school? Any chance if they offered that he would seriously consider them?
 
texascpa said:
Great write-up. Interesting that Barrows "knew" Shy may commit to SU.

In any case, what were Shy's impressions of the school? Any chance if they offered that he would seriously consider them?
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Lol I told him before we went down he was probably committing to Syrascuse. He did like the school... its tuff to show a 16 yearold the warm beach and the bikinis running around everywhere and not have him thinking. Then taking the tour of the new buildings and fields and seeing the Dwanye The Rock Johnson locker room... the Ed Reed film room ... the Clinton Portis wing... every room had a big name player attached. The other thing he liked was one of the players that we spoke with said all the ex players and nfl guys are always around the school and talking to current players. The players really seem to have it us against everyone else attitude you hear about.
 
don't forget about the rooms at SU named after Art Jones, Chandler Jones, Schmarko, Justin Pugh, Mike Williams, Jameel McClain, etc.
 
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