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OT-MNF Damar Hamlin emergency

Cuseregular said:
This press conference is unreal, quite deep. How can you not be a Bills fan after all this, Wow.
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My older sister is a nurse who would probably be unable to name more than 5 NFL teams. She asked me today when the Bills are playing and on what channel because she wants to watch the game.

I suspect that’s not uncommon everywhere, and that the Bills are currently “America’s Team”.
 
JRHEETER said:
And in your morning good news

Damar has had his breathing tube removed and is talking
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I think the emergency personnel did an awesome job…but it’s really starting to look like it was a total cluster once the ambulance left the field, mainly due to Troy Vincent. His first public statement was eyebrow raising, then he doubled down on it which sounded like a guy protesting too much - now ESPN has a article where Bengals and Bills anonymous officials run Vincent over for how he handled things.

I’m not one to call for people to get fired - but it sounds like Goodell needs to have a come to Jesus meeting with Vincent. Nothing is going to fix the screw-ups from that night, so Vincent needs to be less concerned about “winning the press conference” and more concerned with winning back the trust and confidence of the players and teams in the league. If the article is accurate and the quotes from team officials represent how they truly feel, I’m not sure it’s possible - that’s something Goodell needs to be assessing as well.

I’m far less confident the NFL handled the entire situation well than I was a week ago based on the new information that’s come out since then - I’ve gone from thinking the NFL deserved some benefit of the doubt (35 minutes from when the ambulance left the stadium to game cancellation was excessive, but that could have been a procedural checklist that needs to be completed prior to game cancellation where the procedure needs to be streamlined as a follow up to this event) to very concerned with how the situation was handled regarding game status post ambulance leaving the field. (There’s no evidence such a procedure exists, and if it does it was not being followed by Vincent).
 
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Cusefan95 said:
I think the emergency personnel did an awesome job…but it’s really starting to look like it was a total cluster once the ambulance left the field, mainly due to Troy Vincent. His first public statement was eyebrow raising, then he doubled down on it which sounded like a guy protesting too much - now ESPN has a article where Bengals and Bills anonymous officials run Vincent over for how he handled things.

I’m not one to call for people to get fired - but it sounds like Goodell needs to have a come to Jesus meeting with Vincent. Nothing is going to fix the screw-ups from that night, so Vincent needs to be less concerned about “winning the press conference” and more concerned with winning back the trust and confidence of the players and teams in the league. If the article is accurate and the quotes from team officials represent how they truly feel, I’m not sure it’s possible - that’s something Goodell needs to be assessing as well.

I’m far less confident the NFL handled the entire situation well than I was a week ago based on the new information that’s come out since then - I’ve gone from thinking the NFL deserved some benefit of the doubt (35 minutes from when the ambulance left the stadium to game cancellation was excessive, but that could have been a procedural checklist that needs to be completed prior to game cancellation where the procedure needs to be streamlined as a follow up to this event) to very concerned with how the situation was handled regarding game status post ambulance leaving the field. (There’s no evidence such a procedure exists, and if it does it was not being followed by Vincent).
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I never trust the NFL and I don't think Troy Vincent says anything without someone above him dictating it. I think the league would have continued the game and were planning to until the Bengals and Bills saved the shield from throwing up on themselves. I also think it is one of the reasons the Bengal people were less than thrilled with the coin toss.
 
Cusefan95 said:
I think the emergency personnel did an awesome job…but it’s really starting to look like it was a total cluster once the ambulance left the field, mainly due to Troy Vincent. His first public statement was eyebrow raising, then he doubled down on it which sounded like a guy protesting too much - now ESPN has a article where Bengals and Bills anonymous officials run Vincent over for how he handled things.

I’m not one to call for people to get fired - but it sounds like Goodell needs to have a come to Jesus meeting with Vincent. Nothing is going to fix the screw-ups from that night, so Vincent needs to be less concerned about “winning the press conference” and more concerned with winning back the trust and confidence of the players and teams in the league. If the article is accurate and the quotes from team officials represent how they truly feel, I’m not sure it’s possible - that’s something Goodell needs to be assessing as well.

I’m far less confident the NFL handled the entire situation well than I was a week ago based on the new information that’s come out since then - I’ve gone from thinking the NFL deserved some benefit of the doubt (35 minutes from when the ambulance left the stadium to game cancellation was excessive, but that could have been a procedural checklist that needs to be completed prior to game cancellation where the procedure needs to be streamlined as a follow up to this event) to very concerned with how the situation was handled regarding game status post ambulance leaving the field. (There’s no evidence such a procedure exists, and if it does it was not being followed by Vincent).
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No one who says "Frankly" as much as VIncent did in that first interview that is telling the truth
 
Millhouse said:
No one who says "Frankly" as much as VIncent did in that first interview that is telling the truth
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Yep, this kind of stuff is studied relentlessly in a controlled, blinded manner (a quite easy experiment to set up). Words like Frankly, Honestly etc are among the highest correlation to telling a lie.
 
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