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Class of 2022 PG Dior Johnson (NY / CA)

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OttoinGrotto said:
They don't really get spit out though. They continue to play in the Euroleagues somewhere for the most part.
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Except, as our coach has pointed out, there's a new crop every year (in Euro leagues, as well as the NBA), and when the music stops, some of them will not have chairs.
 
longtimefan said:
Except, as our coach has pointed out, there's a new crop every year (in Euro leagues, as well as the NBA), and when the music stops, some of them will not have chairs.
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But that's true no matter what.

When guys played college ball for 4 years dudes still got bounced out of the Association.
 
longtimefan said:
Yes, it is. For every Luka Doncic, there are X number of guys who get ground up and spit out, just like there are with our college kids who declare for the draft and find out they are not NBA material.
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and just like there are with college kids who don't declare. see: portal, transfer

it's a tough biz to crack into. the nba doesn't care about the legions who don't make it, it cares about best preparing the few who do
 
OttoinGrotto said:
But that's true no matter what.

When guys played college ball for 4 years dudes still got bounced out of the Association.
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The point, which I made badly, is that not all the young Europeans who try to compete against grown men in the Euro leagues are able to do so. The fact that only a small percentage succeed makes their attempts a gamble.
 
longtimefan said:
Yes, it is. For every Luka Doncic, there are X number of guys who get ground up and spit out, just like there are with our college kids who declare for the draft and find out they are not NBA material.
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Wait. You mean they have to go through life just like everyone else.
 
Capt. Tuttle said:
Wait. You mean they have to go through life just like everyone else.
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Isn't that unbelievable. In this country, some of the gifted athletes have been told since age 10 that the rules don't apply to them.
 
cuse309 said:
Now google rusty trombone.
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PauliePeppas said:
Very good news for the kids and colleges who want to get top talent to actually show up in the future

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I don’t get it.
So, our courtside patron/fanatic can offer the top 5 players a waste management endorsement deal for 2 million dollars each to entice them to SU?

I’m legit asking how this works and doesn’t become boosters bidding for talent.
 
Zelda Zonk said:
I don’t get it.
So, our courtside patron/fanatic can offer the top 5 players a waste management endorsement deal for 2 million dollars each to entice them to SU?

I’m legit asking how this works and doesn’t become boosters bidding for talent.
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The NCAA will monitor all deals to make sure the money is appropriate for the endorsement.
 
hoopsupstate said:
The NCAA will monitor all deals to make sure the money is appropriate for the endorsement.
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That's nuts. For so many reasons.
If the thing is the kid is allowed to pursue 'deals they can strike on their own,' there's no way to monitor what they're actually getting. A booster/binnisman can say, 'We at Company X are giving this player $10,000 for autograph signing and event appearances and endorsement of our Hoosywhatsits' via the approved NCAA clearinghouse. And then since there's already that connection/relationship between player and binnisman, he can slip him/the parents a briefcase.

The NCAA is going to be tasked with determining endorsement values, which will be context and market-based. LA and NY kids can make more than Alabama kids? Is there going to be a scale that says top 20 kids can make X, and everyone else can only make Y? Then what happens to the #84 kid who actually becomes more valuable than the flameout #4? Do you get more money the longer you're in college? More, based on number of games won? Based on tv ratings?

The NCAA couldn't monitor when there weren't supposed to be any payments, and now they're going to be better cops and investigators? Do they have an incentive to keep/make the playing field level? Or, is it like in the pros, where everyone always says it's better for the NBA if LA and NYC have strong teams? So, they'll favor the blue bloods and traditional powers?

The sad thing is, when a kid of 'limited means' suddenly started buying a car and diamond earrings, it was a clue that something nefarious was going on. Now, there won't be any clues when the whole system is subverted, because they'll all have cars and diamond earrings.

Heck, there's going to be GoFundMe campaigns for alum and boosters to pile up larger and larger paydays and bids for recruits.

It's going to suck for college ball.
 
Zelda Zonk said:
That's nuts. For so many reasons.
If the thing is the kid is allowed to pursue 'deals they can strike on their own,' there's no way to monitor what they're actually getting. A booster/binnisman can say, 'We at Company X are giving this player $10,000 for autograph signing and event appearances and endorsement of our Hoosywhatsits' via the approved NCAA clearinghouse. And then since there's already that connection/relationship between player and binnisman, he can slip him/the parents a briefcase.

The NCAA is going to be tasked with determining endorsement values, which will be context and market-based. LA and NY kids can make more than Alabama kids? Is there going to be a scale that says top 20 kids can make X, and everyone else can only make Y? Then what happens to the #84 kid who actually becomes more valuable than the flameout #4? Do you get more money the longer you're in college? More, based on number of games won? Based on tv ratings?

The NCAA couldn't monitor when there weren't supposed to be any payments, and now they're going to be better cops and investigators? Do they have an incentive to keep/make the playing field level? Or, is it like in the pros, where everyone always says it's better for the NBA if LA and NYC have strong teams? So, they'll favor the blue bloods and traditional powers?

The sad thing is, when a kid of 'limited means' suddenly started buying a car and diamond earrings, it was a clue that something nefarious was going on. Now, there won't be any clues when the whole system is subverted, because they'll all have cars and diamond earrings.

Heck, there's going to be GoFundMe campaigns for alum and boosters to pile up larger and larger paydays and bids for recruits.

It's going to suck for college ball.
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It will suck, but everything has to be documented and be in line with comparable marketing. I don’t know how the NCAA will oversee this when they currently can’t see their nose in front of their face.
 
If they can make endorsement money from boosters, they could end up making millions. It might encourage many players to stay in college where they don't risk losing it. If they're good as advertised, the NBA will still be there and they'd get at least one NBA contract on top of the college earnings. Not a bad hedge.
 
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