Postgame thoughts... UNC

[CuseFaninVT]

I also don't thing JG lost us the game.

Nor do I. That’s firmly on Jim boeheim.

 

[CuseFaninVT]

The main problem with Kadary is that until he can prove he can hit from outside on occasion defenses will sag off of him and we are playing 4 on 5.

That didn’t happen one time tonight.

 

[Brooky03]

Can we go one game without doing this Kadary v. Joe stupidity? There’s better things to argue about ffs its far from the biggest problem

Until Kadary “Second Coming of Jesus” Richmond gets 40 minutes, probably not.

 

[djcon57]

The main problem with Kadary is that until he can prove he can hit from outside on occasion defenses will sag off of him and we are playing 4 on 5.

You wouldn’t want to play 4 on 5 to have a better defensive player in the game, would you.

Keita, Fab Melo, etc etc etc

 

[NorSyr66]

ACC isn’t as good as it usually is. We should still get 10 wins

News Alert!!! We are not that good either. With a 1-2 record against poor performing teams, we will be lucky to get 8 wins!

 

[HOFCeluck]

Has Joe ever denied the pass to the high post? That one play where he was clapping and saw a pass sail right by his mug was awesome.

Slather that bad boy in BBQ sauce and see if that ever happens again.

 

[djcon57]

That didn’t happen one time tonight.

literally not once. If someone can give us the time in the game that occurred, I’d love to see it

 

[CuseFaninVT]

Until Kadary “Second Coming of Jesus” Richmond gets 40 minutes, probably not.

You’re not listening.

 

[Alsacs]

You wouldn’t want to play 4 on 5 to have a better defensive player in the game, would you.

Keita, Fab Melo, etc etc etc

How dare you point out a flaw in Brooky’s logic God

 

[FrancoPizza]

Joe needs to be consistent with his effort on the defensive end

he is consistent. Just not the type of consistent we want to see.

 

[Bulldog04]

Couple takes here-
1. Painful to see Joe not be able to dribble around a 7 foot 265 pound center
2- painful to see Joe not block out the shooter and allow an extra possession when it was 73-70 on a miss free throw which allowed the game to go to 75-70
3- painful that braswell doesn’t play more after seeing his + - compared to others
4- painful to see how easy it is for everyyyyyy other program to have a center or 2 that eat their lunch
5- painful that this team literally has no hustle other than QG. Literally these guys jog around
6- painful that I’m always saying it’s painful to watch lol

 

[Ghost]

Can we go one game without doing this Kadary v. Joe stupidity? There’s better things to argue about ffs its far from the biggest problem

No. No we may NOT!

Your request has been considered, and rejected. j/k btw

 

[City of Cuse]

literally not once. If someone can give us the time in the game that occurred, I’d love to see it

Not tonight, but it has happened in the previous two games. When has UNC ever not played up in your face.

I agree though, it's not a big deal right now if he can't hit a 3 with his ability to drive, make plays and 3 guys on the court that can hit a 3. Its not like he is playing 35 a game, he's playing what like 10 and it is a change of pace.

 

[kjb120]

Until Kadary “Second Coming of Jesus” Richmond gets 40 minutes, probably not.

The problem is that Joe is treated this way and it’s clearly not working, and a few threes a game doesn’t make up for bad defense, turnovers, and horrible shot selection. We have enough good shooters on the floor, I would much rather a guy who can facilitate offense and play good D get more minutes then Joe.
At this point I don’t think we are competing for a championship so give me the guy with a lot more upside getting the minutes.

 

[CousCuse]

Listen, I’m hoping for a guard rotation. In my mind, that means sitting buddy for a few minutes in the second half because he wasn’t helping anywhere. Kadary running the point with Joe off the ball may have actually worked in the second half. But Joe needs to be consistent with his effort on the defensive end, and stop with the ridiculous 25+ footers.

You don't think he has the green light to shoot those shots? He has to or he would be getting blow torched by Boeheim. I've heard he makes them at a high percentage during practice.

 

[cuseincincy]

Ok, Here the deal on Joe's D. In my early 20's I used to play pickup against some of the players in summer at Archbold Gym. Sherm, Herm Harried, Brower and Matt Roe were regulars. They made me/us look silly but we ran with them. If they didn't want me to score, I didn't score (or pass or much of anything else!). I'm now 56, 6'2" 275lbs was a while ago. If I walked up court today and saw JG3 guarding me in a tavern league zone I wouldn't think twice about passing over him or shooting over him. If Kadary was on me I would pass the ball to someone else.

 

[STEVEHOLT]

Offensive rebounding killed us. Our guys battled but 265 vs 195 is not good.

so sick of this narrative. so then just throw your hands up and give up? rebounding is much more than just who weighs more. its positioning, effort, technique, and more than anything, will. this team can't and never will be good at defensive rebounding because

1. stupid zone.
2. the scheme to rebound out of the zone is either not taught well or the players they recruit year after year after year refuse to be taught it..its one or the other..maybe both.

strictly blaming it on who is fatter is misguided.

 

[CuseFaninVT]

You don't think he has the green light to shoot those shots? He has to or he would be getting blow torched by Boeheim. I've heard he makes them at a high percentage during practice.

Shhhh. People who understand basketball are talking.

 

[Brooky03]

You’re not listening.

Kadary is a part of the rotation. He’s a 4 star freshman playing 16-20 minutes a game. That’s rare. Late in games, Boeheim plays the known quantity, the more experienced player. Kadary is a good defender, he’s not MCW. Joe is a bad defender, he’s not Brandon Reese. Joe is a good shooter and can hit NBA 3’s (which are sometimes the best this offense can do); he can’t drive or finish in traffic. Kadary can’t shoot at all but can drive and does alright in traffic.

Joe plays more because the guy who has forgotten more about coaching and winning than any of us will learn in two lifetimes wants him in the court.

What is the part I’m missing?

 

[chugg21]

Until Kadary “Second Coming of Jesus” Richmond gets 40 minutes, probably not.

Think we're all looking for 20-25 and Joey Jesus to also only be at 25. JG is an "elite shooter" that is shooting 34% from the field through 2 years and isn't particularly good at anything else except ft shooting. It doesn't appear that he's going to magically get more athletic or longer so he basically is what he is and most of us are terrified hes going to continue averaging 33mpg for the next 2.5 years.

 

[STEVEHOLT]

JB:

“Too big for us inside”
“marek giving up 50 lbs”
“Have to play perfect on offense”

same presser we get 80% of the time against UNC.

its all lies. we were up a point with a couple minutes left and had played FAR from perfect. what cost us the game was terrible decisions by the players and the coach who put the players who make terrible decisions, in a position where their decisions could cost us.

 

[STEVEHOLT]

We need to get Sid back for sure.

Spoiler alert...Godot NEVER shows up.

 

[Brooky03]

The problem is that Joe is treated this way and it’s clearly not working, and a few threes a game doesn’t make up for bad defense, turnovers, and horrible shot selection. We have enough good shooters on the floor, I would much rather a guy who can facilitate offense and play good D get more minutes then Joe.
At this point I don’t think we are competing for a championship so give me the guy with a lot more upside getting the minutes.

Kadary wasn’t helping us win this game today. Joe didn’t either. The list of guys who help us win is Buddy, Guerrier...

 

[CuseFaninVT]

Kadary is a part of the rotation. He’s a 4 star freshman playing 16-20 minutes a game. That’s rare. Late in games, Boeheim plays the known quantity, the more experienced player. Kadary is a good defender, he’s not MCW. Joe is a bad defender, he’s not Brandon Reese. Joe is a good shooter and can hit NBA 3’s (which are sometimes the best this offense can do); he can’t drive or finish in traffic. Kadary can’t shoot at all but can drive and does alright in traffic.

Joe plays more because the guy who has forgotten more about coaching and winning than any of us will learn in two lifetimes wants him in the court.

What is the part I’m missing?

The losses.

 

[Bayside44]

Spoiler alert...Godot NEVER shows up.

I just watched JB's presser, oh well...