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Thursday, August 11

Practice #8 (9:35 am - 12 pm)
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All4SU said:
Like Howard Cosell, I can say without compunction that “I never played the game.” That said, whenever I see these videos of practices, one of the first things I think is, Why do players spend so much time just standing around? I know it’s hot. I know they’re tired. But I would think these practices should stress their systems more. I’m sure I’m just not familiar enough with it. Or maybe these are just the less demanding portions of practice. Still, seems like one guy catching a ball, one guy throwing a ball. And 20 guys standing watching seems unproductive.
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What do you suggest?

Remember, there are usually 9 different position groups working at the same time on different parts of the field. OL, QB, RB, WR, DL, LB, CB, S and specialists.

Even if those groups are only working one player at a time, that’s 9 players doing something at the same time in different parts of the field. And it is seldom only one player from a position group working unless the position groups are working with another position group; QB, WR, DB in 1 on 1’s. Three people on the left side of the field and three in the right side. They alternate so coaches can watch, analyze and address every rep.

While the skill players are doing 1 on 1’s, the OL and DL are usually engaged in drills against each other; pass rush 1v1, double teams etc….

And the specialists, kickers, punters, long snappers etc… are also working at the same time.

At any given time 10%-20% of the players are actively engaged in a drill. Those that aren’t actively engaged are recovering, getting ready for the next rep and everyone should be engaged in mental reps.

10% - 20% of the players will not get as many active reps as others. Starters get more reps than third and fourth stringers.

In addition to coaches watching every rep in practice, every rep is filmed so coaches watch it all again at least once. Players get a copy of their reps. And later in the day the players have meeting with their position coaches to go over practice film, correct mistakes and put in new adjustments for the next day.

I was serious when I asked for your suggestions cause coaches all over the country are always looking for ways to improve efficiencies and maybe you have an idea.
 
SUDadx2 said:
What do you suggest?

Remember, there are usually 9 different position groups working at the same time on different parts of the field. OL, QB, RB, WR, DL, LB, CB, S and specialists.

Even if those groups are only working one player at a time, that’s 9 players doing something at the same time in different parts of the field. And it is seldom only one player from a position group working unless the position groups are working with another position group; QB, WR, DB in 1 on 1’s. Three people on the left side of the field and three in the right side. They alternate so coaches can watch, analyze and address every rep.

While the skill players are doing 1 on 1’s, the OL and DL are usually engaged in drills against each other; pass rush 1v1, double teams etc….

And the specialists, kickers, punters, long snappers etc… are also working at the same time.

At any given time 10%-20% of the players are actively engaged in a drill. Those that aren’t actively engaged are recovering, getting ready for the next rep and everyone should be engaged in mental reps.

10% - 20% of the players will not get as many active reps as others. Starters get more reps than third and fourth stringers.

In addition to coaches watching every rep in practice, every rep is filmed so coaches watch it all again at least once. Players get a copy of their reps. And later in the day the players have meeting with their position coaches to go over practice film, correct mistakes and put in new adjustments for the next day.

I was serious when I asked for your suggestions cause coaches all over the country are always looking for ways to improve efficiencies and maybe you have an idea.
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I really don’t have any suggestions… as I said, not part of my knowledge set. Just find it interesting. Much different that soccer practices I’m more familiar with where virtually everyone is involved continuously. Different sport, I know. Thanks for the response.
 
SUDadx2 said:
What do you suggest?

Remember, there are usually 9 different position groups working at the same time on different parts of the field. OL, QB, RB, WR, DL, LB, CB, S and specialists.

Even if those groups are only working one player at a time, that’s 9 players doing something at the same time in different parts of the field. And it is seldom only one player from a position group working unless the position groups are working with another position group; QB, WR, DB in 1 on 1’s. Three people on the left side of the field and three in the right side. They alternate so coaches can watch, analyze and address every rep.

While the skill players are doing 1 on 1’s, the OL and DL are usually engaged in drills against each other; pass rush 1v1, double teams etc….

And the specialists, kickers, punters, long snappers etc… are also working at the same time.

At any given time 10%-20% of the players are actively engaged in a drill. Those that aren’t actively engaged are recovering, getting ready for the next rep and everyone should be engaged in mental reps.

10% - 20% of the players will not get as many active reps as others. Starters get more reps than third and fourth stringers.

In addition to coaches watching every rep in practice, every rep is filmed so coaches watch it all again at least once. Players get a copy of their reps. And later in the day the players have meeting with their position coaches to go over practice film, correct mistakes and put in new adjustments for the next day.

I was serious when I asked for your suggestions cause coaches all over the country are always looking for ways to improve efficiencies and maybe you have an idea.
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Learned a lot here, thx.
 
cuse309 said:
Listened to the locked in Syracuse podcast and they mentioned that during very brief 11 on 11 portion of practice, G.S. threw 2 picks trying to make that throw.
Can't take too much from camp, but 2 picks in very few attempts on those sideline throws isn't what you like to hear.
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Not what you want to hear but having those reps and seeing the results can be super useful to make sure we don’t call anything that directly brings up that situation and actually work to avoid it. This is the time for seeing what works and what doesn’t do they can plan accordingly.
 
Timonen said:
Not what you want to hear but having those reps and seeing the results can be super useful to make sure we don’t call anything that directly brings up that situation and actually work to avoid it. This is the time for seeing what works and what doesn’t do they can plan accordingly.
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I think it is safe to say that we should have expected the defense to be well ahead of the offense at this point. New scheme and all.
 
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