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[ClkWrkOrange]

His passing ability and the way he can work his progressions in the passing game really shined a light on how bad our WR core is. We need to shuffle things up and get some younger players in the game to see what they have.

Agree 100%. Shrader seemed to be spreading it around nicely at the beginning of the year and appears to have lost confidence in most of these guys. I would much rather see what some of the young guys that we need to contribute next year have to offer than continue to watch a 7th year guy not catch the ball.

 

[orangemass]

anyone see the fake handoff thing GS did early in the game?
It looked half hearted. Like he gave up after the pick-6, and never came back (yes, I know our first - second - drive was great).

Yes he made little to no effort after the pick 6. Right then knew he wasn’t right

 

[FRANKIEFAN]

Slovis is looking like his Freshman year at USC tonight easily the best he has been for Pitt.

We not only won't win next week without excellent QB play but it will be like Louisville last year or that BC game in 2019 if we play Shrader and he looks like he did today or Clemson 2H.

Pitt D looks good that is going to be a tough game.

 

[Entropic]

All I know is that Shader's value is as a dual threat QB. Until he is able to be that you have to use CDRW. We won't have success with Shrader playing pocket passer on a bum ankle. All these Cuse QBs we have had over the years have been warriors. They will battle until they literally can't stand. We have a competent backup this year. There is no need to try to tough this one out. That is a luxury we haven't had in the past.

 

[Day2]

Slovis is looking like his Freshman year at USC tonight easily the best he has been for Pitt.

We not only won't win next week without excellent QB play but it will be like Louisville last year or that BC game in 2019 if we play Shrader and he looks like he did today or Clemson 2H.

Pitt D looks good that is going to be a tough game.

I was told they’re just going to run it down our throats the whole game.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

Agree 100%. Shrader seemed to be spreading it around nicely at the beginning of the year and appears to have lost confidence in most of these guys. I would much rather see what some of the young guys that we need to contribute next year have to offer than continue to watch a 7th year guy not catch the ball.

With all due respect to Shrader's grit, he's not a prolific enough passer to "lose confidence" in the guys he's throwing to.

 

[Chip]

Garrett is a warrior and did the work and improved tremendously. But with his mechanics he’s limited even with the improvement.

CDRW has a higher upside

And he can run.

 

[Millhouse]

And he can run.

If they couldn't see what was plainly obvious there, you have to wonder what else they're missing in practice that the rest of us aren't privy too

Shrader throwing from two legs with the threat of the run isn't great, throwing from one is really bad

 

[Millhouse]

I feel like if I said start CDRW last week posters would be calling for my head

I know that feeling

 

[Millhouse]

The bright side of this is that we are changing our expectations for what good passing is. Shrader has been statistically very pretty efficient this year. That should be the baseline in babers offense when all the pieces are competent (play calling, blocking, etc) it's still a good system and when there aren't fatal flaws, it makes it pretty easy for QBs to make good choices

 

[Chris02M]

im guessing CDRW will start next week. Shrader is limited on downfield passes of more than 30 yards and can't move.

 

[P Vasiloff]

Turned out TD had an issue with holding the ball too long. And he lacked mental toughness.

I’m not worried about those things with CDRW at all. There are some potential red flags, but I don’t want to go there unless it’s on the payside.

Not having that problem at Illinois. Coaching?????

 

[DPCuse]

Not having that problem at Illinois. Coaching?????

It’s called pass protection.

 

[Nick44]

I wish CDRW would drop the “Wilson” from his name. There I said it, Carlos Del-Rio has a better ring to it.

Seriously though, excited for this kid. From a depth standpoint, we get this guy for at least another 2 seasons w/o the worry of losing him to the portal/NFL. He could be the baseline for us at that position and with those skills, that’s pretty exciting.

Next weeks game is another fork in the road between a 9-10 win season and a 6-7 win season. We have to figure out a way (for once) to beat Pitt on the road. It’s our time.

 

[Millhouse]

Not having that problem at Illinois. Coaching?????

Do you know that's not still an issue? Illinois is 101st in tackles for loss allowed, I'm guessing that QB has something to do with it even though I know he got hurt

 

[FloridaFan]

Do you know that's not still an issue? Illinois is 101st in tackles for loss allowed, I'm guessing that QB has something to do with it even though I know he got hurt

It may be an issue still but he did just go 20-22 against an FBS opponent and they are 7-1 now

 

[Millhouse]

It may be an issue still but he did just go 20-22 against an FBS opponent and they are 7-1 now

I'm glad he's doing well in a better environment. His efficiency is pretty good. Good for him

 

[OttoinGrotto]

im guessing CDRW will start next week. Shrader is limited on downfield passes of more than 30 yards and can't move.

I mean with the way he appeared to have to lunge his body into his throws, Shrader looked limited on 10 yard passes.

 

[atlanticuse]

is this why GS didn't practice in the 2-minute drills all week?

 

[Day2]

Not having that problem at Illinois. Coaching?????

Maybe? I don’t care at this point, I’m happy with Shrader, CDRW, and Lamson.

 

[rrlbees]

Maybe? I don’t care at this point, I’m happy with Shrader, CDRW, and Lamson.

If you don’t care why do you keep commenting on him including just yesterday.

 

[OrangeinDC]

I wish CDRW would drop the “Wilson” from his name. There I said it, Carlos Del-Rio has a better ring to it.

Seriously though, excited for this kid. From a depth standpoint, we get this guy for at least another 2 seasons w/o the worry of losing him to the portal/NFL. He could be the baseline for us at that position and with those skills, that’s pretty exciting.

Next weeks game is another fork in the road between a 9-10 win season and a 6-7 win season. We have to figure out a way (for once) to beat Pitt on the road. It’s our time.

Whoa, whoa... Can't drop Wilson... I'm a Wilson... he may be in my tree somewhere!!

Just call him Mr. Wilson!

 

[OrangeDW]

It may be an issue still but he did just go 20-22 against an FBS opponent and they are 7-1 now

From what I can tell they have a monster defense and they control the clock and run the ball, and he mainly needs to dink and dunk accurately - which is certainly something he can do.

 

[Day2]

If you don’t care why do you keep commenting on him including just yesterday.

I don’t care why he doesn’t hold the ball too long at Illinois, or if that’s even true.

 

[FloridaFan]

From what I can tell they have a monster defense and they control the clock and run the ball, and he mainly needs to dink and dunk accurately - which is certainly something he can do.

So everything we should have been able to be and do. Saddening