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Quincy Guerrier transferring to Oregon

I just dont get it. He would have got huge minutes and been a star. Is he that afraid of Cole and Jimmy taking minutes from him? Aggrivated.
“He was looking for my position and I was looking for the same thing. I’m going to play more at the three and I’m going to be able to play more on the perimeter and put the ball more on the floor. That was really the main reason why I left Syracuse because I couldn’t really do that. Now I will be able to show my full potential.”
 
I'm thinking back to when CJ thought about declaring, but ended up coming back with the chance to be the senior star/offensive focus of the team. It didn't make him a draft pick.
If nothing else, Q gets to play for another great coach who will undoubtedly teach him some new perspective on the game.

I think Q might have made a good decision for his future. He made the best of this year's transfer rules, and conducted himself in a professional manner throughout the process.
I just dont get it. He would have got huge minutes and been a star. Is he that afraid of Cole and Jimmy taking minutes from him? Aggrivated.
 
Of course it does. You get rewarded by making the tournament. Not by getting a higher seed.
In 2019 we weren’t ranked one week from January till March and ended up an 8 seed.
One more win and we could have been a 7 seed that year.
I didn’t consider that a good season.

Being relevant is being top 25.

I think that is more than fair if you don’t want the bet that is fine.
Being a 6 seed is a great season.
I am willing to go top 25 on the S-Curve released on selection Sunday.
 
For what it’s worth, I’m sure we recruited him as a 3 and it was us that didn’t hold up our end of the promise (which is understandable due to injuries last year). He’s doing the right thing by going to a school that can hopefully get him squarely into the NBA. If he came back and played the 4 or 5 next year here, that wouldn’t have happened.
 
I'm thinking back to when CJ thought about declaring, but ended up coming back with the chance to be the senior star/offensive focus of the team. It didn't make him a draft pick.
If nothing else, Q gets to play for another great coach who will undoubtedly teach him some new perspective on the game.

I think Q might have made a good decision for his future. He made the best of this year's transfer rules, and conducted himself in a professional manner throughout the process.
I get it and it he left for the NBA or to get paid I get it but leaving for another program is puzzling to me.
 
I get it and it he left for the NBA or to get paid I get it but leaving for another program is puzzling to me.
I mean he literally said it straight up. We weren’t developing him as an NBA player, and with Benny and Buddy in starting roles next year, he wasn’t gonna get the opportunity to maximize his nba potential
 
I get it and it he left for the NBA or to get paid I get it but leaving for another program is puzzling to me.
“He was looking for my position and I was looking for the same thing. I’m going to play more at the three and I’m going to be able to play more on the perimeter and put the ball more on the floor. That was really the main reason why I left Syracuse because I couldn’t really do that. Now I will be able to show my full potential.”
 
For what it’s worth, I’m sure we recruited him as a 3 and it was us that didn’t hold up our end of the promise (which is understandable due to injuries last year). He’s doing the right thing by going to a school that can hopefully get him squarely into the NBA. If he came back and played the 4 or 5 next year here, that wouldn’t have happened.
He would never have played the 5.
 
For what it’s worth, I’m sure we recruited him as a 3 and it was us that didn’t hold up our end of the promise (which is understandable due to injuries last year). He’s doing the right thing by going to a school that can hopefully get him squarely into the NBA. If he came back and played the 4 or 5 next year here, that wouldn’t have happened.

In addition to improving his handle, One thing he will need to do a lot better is to see the floor. He’s not been a good passer. 60 career games and 42 career assists. That’s an absurdly low number for someone who played 30+ this year. If he’s really going to have the ball in his hands more he needs major improvement in those two areas.

Cuse!
 
Being relevant is being top 25.

ESPN (and all the sports media) report on the Top 25 scores.

If you aren't in the Top 25, either you have a highlight make the top 10 highlights show, or you wind up having to look in the conference section of the site to get your game results.

Top 25 makes the highlights shows, it makes Sports Center. Outside the Top 25 you do not.

Totally agree!
 
Just my take - but Q made it very apparent SU was not developing him for the nba. Current players and recruits care so much more about the nba than what is ever shared. It is literally all these kids talk about. When guys like Oshae improve 10x NOT being at Syracuse and then a guy like Q bounces to another program, so THEY can develop him more effectively, I got some questions for SU on this...
 
Just my take - but Q made it very apparent SU was not developing him for the nba. Current players and recruits care so much more about the nba than what is ever shared. It is literally all these kids talk about. When guys like Oshae improve 10x NOT being at Syracuse and then a guy like Q bounces to another program, so THEY can develop him more effectively, I got some questions for SU on this...

Just curious but what do we know behind the scenes respective of the staffs work with developing Q?

If there is indeed a problem here I just wonder if there is more context
.

For example if I knew nothing about SU hoops aside from what's out there around this board Twitter etc, the takeaway would be a program/coaching staff who doesn't develop kids, doesn't start or favor minutes for the best 5 guys at their positions, and is not very well liked by the players.
 
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ESPN (and all the sports media) report on the Top 25 scores.

If you aren't in the Top 25, either you have a highlight make the top 10 highlights show, or you wind up having to look in the conference section of the site to get your game results.

Top 25 makes the highlights shows, it makes Sports Center. Outside the Top 25 you do not.

Totally agree!
People still watch SportsCenter?
 
I mean find a way to let him expand his skillset a bit while keeping him in the program. Get creative with offensive sets using both the 3 and the 4. Show him tape of John Wallace. Show him a path for him and Benny to do what they do well here. Losing Q and Kadary is absolutely devastating to our upside next year.
Devastating? Really? Wow, people are officially losing their minds! Are you really getting this upset over college kids making choices which don’t fall in line with your way of thinking? It’s only a game played by kids, enjoy what we have here in our snowy/frigid burg!
 
Just my take - but Q made it very apparent SU was not developing him for the nba. Current players and recruits care so much more about the nba than what is ever shared. It is literally all these kids talk about. When guys like Oshae improve 10x NOT being at Syracuse and then a guy like Q bounces to another program, so THEY can develop him more effectively, I got some questions for SU on this...
Let’s hear your questions, because I have a few of my own for all the critics out there. Actually, I have only one question, in 27 parts...

If you’re lamenting the loss of Guerrier because he was our best post presence, while at the same time criticizing the coaching staff for not acquiescing to his desire to play the 3, what role were you expecting him to play next season had he returned, and what makes you so sure that wasn’t the exact same pitch given by the staff?
 
This may be a dumb question, so he's definitely staying in college and done with going through the draft process?
 
Just my take - but Q made it very apparent SU was not developing him for the nba. Current players and recruits care so much more about the nba than what is ever shared. It is literally all these kids talk about. When guys like Oshae improve 10x NOT being at Syracuse and then a guy like Q bounces to another program, so THEY can develop him more effectively, I got some questions for SU on this...
I respect this take, but it kind of seems like a cover for the players.

QG struggled with injuries that limited him. That sucks. It’s no one’s fault. Not his or the school’s.

He also couldn’t knock down an open 3 to save his life. That’s not Syracuse’s fault. He’s not going to sniff the league if he can’t consistently hit shots from college range. He can’t beat guys off the dribble one on one, and seems to be committed to being a 3 and not a small ball big.

Syracuse got Tyler Lydon, Malachi, Tyler Ennis drafted high; are we going to hold the program responsible for what happened after that?

Oshae didn’t elevate his play because he left SU, just like the guys listed above didn’t regress because they left SU. It’s a combo of scheme, opportunity, and things finally clicking above the shoulders about what it takes to be a pro. What happens after these guys leave is no longer connected to the school at all, as much as we like to take credit.

Benny Williams is sure confident in the staff’s ability to develop him, same with Kamari Lands.

If you’re implying Oregon is somehow a better pipleine to the pros that’s just not true.

QG could be making money playing basketball in Europe and possibly the G League next year. Oregon is at best a lateral move. Him not being confident in his ability to be a pro is not SU’s problem anymore.
 
In addition to improving his handle, One thing he will need to do a lot better is to see the floor. He’s not been a good passer. 60 career games and 42 career assists. That’s an absurdly low number for someone who played 30+ this year. If he’s really going to have the ball in his hands more he needs major improvement in those two areas.

Cuse!
Centers and PF dont get many assists
 
Oregon has a pretty good program and a very good coach.
We have a legendary program and a legendary coach. Players should want their games to be best for team and let the chips fall as they may on nba prospects

scouts aren’t dumb
 

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