Rankings...things that make you go hmmm

[Ptzburghcuse]

Looking at the latest BB rankings and was a bit disappointed to see SU hasn't budged upwards given some early wins. I realize the competition hasn't been exactly world beating here but the team has been dominant even when not bringing their best game.

Those of us who watch this team year in and out can tell there is something a bit different with this group. Far too many years SU seems to play down to their opponents but that doesn't seem to be happening early and that is a sign for cautious optimism.

That said, I decided to look at a few other rankings. Turns out SU is fairing much worse in the RPI. Unless I've missed it we aren't even top 100.

Pomeroy on the other hand has us at 8th. In fact,
he has five of the top right teams as ACC squads.

Time will tell with this group but it has been a very fun team to watch and ACC play figures to be brutal this year. Savor this year. They don't come along often.

 

[Dave85]

Looking at the latest BB rankings and was a bit disappointed to see SU hasn't budged upwards given some early wins. I realize the competition hasn't been exactly world beating but the team has been dominant even when not bringing their best.

Those of us who watch this team year in and out can tell there is something a bit different with this group. Too many years SU seems to play down to their opponents but that doesn't seen to be happening early and that is a sign for cautious optimism.

That said I decided to look at a few other rankings. Turns out SU is fairing much worse in the RPI. Unless I've missed it we aren't even top 100.

Pomeroy on the other hand has us at 8th. In fact he has five of the top right teams as ACC squads.

Time will tell with this group but it has been a very fun team to watch and ACC play figures to be brutal this year. Savor this year. They don't come along often.

Our lack of respect in the polls is only matched by the ball-out-of-bounds calls not going our way.

 

[OrangeFoo]

Our lack of respect in the polls is only matched by the ball-out-of-bounds calls not going our way.

Don't forget our total lack of games on TV... still don't get how as a name program in the top hoops conference in the country we have managed to not be on the air tv (not streaming).

 

[upperdeck]

someday we will have someone in charge who knows how TV works and can explain how most of our preseason will not be on real TV and that is an improvement?

 

[HoustonCuse]

RPI? Why would our RPI be any good? If you want to look at rankings that are meaningless this early in the season - look at KenPom. We're ranked #8 there. So you can feel better. The ranking is bogus because of a lack of data, just like RPI, but at least you'll like the number I guess.

 

[Briancuse]

The fact that Rutgers got a vote tells you all you need to know about the integrity of the rankings.

 

[Dave85]

Don't forget our total lack of games on TV... still don't get how as a name program in the top hoops conference in the country we have managed to not be on the air tv (not streaming).

You would think in the New York City media market Syracuse basketball would be a money making venture!

 

[Dave85]

The fact that Rutgers got a vote tells you all you need to know about the integrity of the rankings.

Best post I've read in 2 weeks!

 

[DonLightfoot]

If anything I thought we might move up a position or two. However, staying where we were is not a surprise given the competition thus far.

Don't go into that TV thing again as I am also so frustrated the games are not on my Dish Network or, if they are on one of the Regional Sports channels, I get blacked out :bang:

 

[Dave85]

RPI? Why would our RPI be any good? If you want to look at rankings that are meaningless this early in the season - look at KenPom. We're ranked #8 there. So you can feel better. The ranking is bogus because of a lack of data, just like RPI, but at least you'll like the number I guess.

A really good college rankings comparison site:

College Basketball Ranking Composite

 

[Dave85]

There are a lot of ACC teams at the top of the polls. That may prevent us from breaking the top 10 until we get some signature wins.

 

[EastCoast2]

We have opportunities these next couple weeks. Beat South Carolina, beat Wisconsin, beat UConn, and we're in the 8-12 range.

 

[cuse309]

someday we will have someone in charge who knows how TV works and can explain how most of our preseason will not be on real TV and that is an improvement?

You'd think Wildhack would be that guy...

 

[two3zone]

We have opportunities these next couple weeks. Beat South Carolina, beat Wisconsin, beat UConn, and we're in the 8-12 range.

Or better.

 

[cuse309]

If anything I thought we might move up a position or two. However, staying where we were is not a surprise given the competition thus far.

Don't go into that TV thing again as I am also so frustrated the games are not on my Dish Network or, if they are on one of the Regional Sports channels, I get blacked out :bang:

Get a Roku for about $50 and download the watchespn app. I've had ZERO issues with it. The broadcast is actually in full 1080p and is indistinguishable from a television broadcast...the only downside is having to listen to Rosie Bouie as the color commentator.

 

[Chicago44s]

Looking at the latest BB rankings and was a bit disappointed to see SU hasn't budged upwards given some early wins. I realize the competition hasn't been exactly world beating here but the team has been dominant even when not bringing their best game.

Those of us who watch this team year in and out can tell there is something a bit different with this group. Far too many years SU seems to play down to their opponents but that doesn't seem to be happening early and that is a sign for cautious optimism.

That said, I decided to look at a few other rankings. Turns out SU is fairing much worse in the RPI. Unless I've missed it we aren't even top 100.

Pomeroy on the other hand has us at 8th. In fact,
he has five of the top right teams as ACC squads.

Time will tell with this group but it has been a very fun team to watch and ACC play figures to be brutal this year. Savor this year. They don't come along often.

I'm cool with it. I love the under estimation. We know what this team is capable of doing and it may take a few games for the nation to realize. Watching this team is like watching a Jason Bourne movie. Always underestimated until they get punched in the mouth. No matter what type of bad dude comes along you know he's secretly got the upper hand and they have no idea.

 

[Jake]

I'm watching Oregon. They. Blow.

 

[orangenauburn]

We got a bunch of tools keeping us down. Two guys kept us NR and a handful more in the 23-25 range

 

[Briancuse]

We got a bunch of tools keeping us down. Two guys kept us NR and a handful more in the 23-25 range

Lets get their names out, so we can shame them.

 

[orangenauburn]

Lets get their names out, so we can shame them.

Syracuse Orange Basketball at College Poll Tracker

 

[Chicago44s]

Two morons from the Midwest. What a surprise.

 

[DonLightfoot]

Get a Roku for about $50 and download the watchespn app. I've had ZERO issues with it. The broadcast is actually in full 1080p and is indistinguishable from a television broadcast...the only downside is having to listen to Rosie Bouie as the color commentator.

WatchESPN not available to Canadians. The streams I pick up are essentially the WatchESPN broadcast, just get it from a different source. Agree about Bouie unfortunately.

 

[Chicago44s]

The fact that Rutgers got a vote tells you all you need to know about the integrity of the rankings.

Scott Wolf at College Poll Tracker

 

[nyucuse]

WatchESPN not available to Canadians. The streams I pick up are essentially the WatchESPN broadcast, just get it from a different source. Agree about Bouie unfortunately.

Download hola at hola.org

Excellent VPN. Then go to watchespn.com and select US as the country.

I live in the UK and am watching the Hoyas as I type this. Have seen all the SU games as well.

 

[cuse309]

Syracuse Orange Basketball at College Poll Tracker

Cool page. It's a good database to decide what AP voters to hate. By the way, I though Brent Axe was an ap voter. I don't see him anywhere.