Red

[Dave]

Everyone has to adjust the way they think about college sports. Teams no longer have time to GEL over time. They have no time to find continuity together. It will never happen anymore to many moving parts and the rosters are too small, unlike football. So you have to go in prepared for that...

Now what brings continuity faster? Why can other teams GEL fast and some teams don't?

The way I look at college sports now your offensive and defensive systems are your continuity, not your players. You build harmony in your systems. This is where all your players will quickly be on the same page and know where each other is supposed to be. They have a system to follow they have structure. You teach the same system year in and year out. You look for talent that fits your systems etc.

Red is failing here because we don't have that on either end and it shows.

There isn’t enough data to gain insight into why some teams gel faster than others. It might be more of the lightning in a bottle type situation. Recruiting to a system? You have to be recruiting on a very high level to do that with any consistency. Most recruit the best players they can and conform the style of play to their personnel. Players have to be good, and got in. My point was largely addressed to the fans view. What we have grown to love may not be there anymore.

 

[Irishsecra1]

I don’t think JB would be all that upset if Red was fired.
He isn’t even around the program anymore.
He wanted Gerry to succeed him but that didn’t happen.
Based on what you hear about the culture Gerry is building at Siena, and the fact they have already won more games than last year, he was probably right.

I am so disappointedI finally bought season tickets and got this!

 

[DilemaCuse]

Yea it’s crazy. Think about this. Kiyan next year is going to be making more money than our coaching staff and maybe even the whole roster. He will very likely make more from his businesses, brands and social media than he ever will as a basketball player. Right now he’s ranked what 50th in his class but has the 2nd highest NIL in HS too.

Even though I don’t have confidence in Red I feel for a lot of coaches trying to pretend they have any idea what’s going on out there.

You really have to be diabolical like Coach Fran to handle business as a coach at the P5 level. He learned from the best at Georgia football how to work in a system with no rules and deal with these paid kids. Same Georgia NIL program by the way that stole Leffew who’s sitting at 39.2% from 3 and 12 points a game while we got Carlos at 22% and 6 points a game.

Autry wants to be a players coach and when it’s the Wild West out there thats a bad combination. He’s gotta adapt or get gone.

I had a back and forth with Cody from ESPN radio on Kiyan. He kept going on how the fans will come back because Kiyan is coming, it's Melos son, all the local business will be interested in getting access to them.
I countered that while a nice story, and promising recruit, he's not flagg or Dybansta. He never mentioned how it's gonna lead to more wins on the court. It's just a narrative at this point but people don't realize how unlikely it is to have freshman lead them to the promised land.

 

[tptcuse]

The biggest question i have regarding Red is this. His talent evaluation in the portal this year was so poor, how can we trust him to evaluate talent to rebuild next year?

I don't disagree but saying that is the biggest question is ceding the question of who will teach defense. I really cannot get over how bad our defense looks.

 

[Red2003]

I had a back and forth with Cody from ESPN radio on Kiyan. He kept going on how the fans will come back because Kiyan is coming, it's Melos son, all the local business will be interested in getting access to them.
I countered that while a nice story, and promising recruit, he's not flagg or Dybansta. He never mentioned how it's gonna lead to more wins on the court. It's just a narrative at this point but people don't realize how unlikely it is to have freshman lead them to the promised land.

Exactly. Wake me up when Kiyan is a Junior and leading the team. Next year he’s basically just a story and a walking ATM.

 

[OttosShoes]

TBH this whole situation just makes me kind of sick. I grew up watching Red fly across the court. When he got the job and said he was going to bring back that fast-paced game it felt like a fairy tale. How great would it be for this guy to be a great coach too?

2,400 × 3,600

 

[orangefog]

TBH this whole situation just makes me kind of sick. I grew up watching Red fly across the court. When he got the job and said he was going to bring back that fast-paced game it felt like a fairy tale. How great would it be for this guy to be a great coach too?

2,400 × 3,600

Yeah, I really wish this would work out like we all hoped. But, it's hard to be a great coach. Red is not a great coach. There is no evidence that our players learn anything under this coaching staff. That doesn't diminish how great he was for us in the early 90's. I will fight to the grave that his shot from his knees should have counted!!!!!