Rickie Collins

[OttoinGrotto]

He could play the rest of the year and red shirt next year when Steve comes back. With Steve having at least 1 year to play, possibly 2 with a medical waiver, Carney isn't really at risk of "blowing his red shirt". So that shouldn't really be a factor. If Carney shows something they should let the kid cook.

I'm certain the staff is thinking and talking through just these kinds of scenarios.

 

[baggerbob]

I'm certain the staff is thinking and talking through just these kinds of scenarios.

I just hope that if Collins doesn't get the offense going in the first half at SMU, the staff pulls the plug and goes with one of the youngsters.

 

[SuFTW]

Taller than you most likely

Don’t think he is a quarterback.

 

[SuFTW]

I just hope that if Collins doesn't get the offense going in the first half at SMU, the staff pulls the plug and goes with one of the youngsters.

Why would they do that?

 

[tptcuse]

I doubt he’s that tall.

I was a few feet away from him when he walked by in the quad walk. No way he is 6'2". He looked strong though.

 

[Scooch]

I’ll ask a sincere question… who can name an SU QB who’s had this rocky of a start to his career here that turned out to be good?

At this point, Collins’ resume includes being benched after his first series vs Colgate, struggling in the 4th quarter against Clemson, and today’s disaster.

I don’t want to say the guy is unsalvageable. But I’m racking my brain to think of someone who was this lousy to begin his time at SU yet ended up being a good starter.

 

[AngryOtto]

I just hope that if Collins doesn't get the offense going in the first half at SMU, the staff pulls the plug and goes with one of the youngsters.

Won’t happen. I suspect we will have to go 0-3 for a change to happen.

 

[sufandu]

I’ll ask a sincere question… who can name an SU QB who’s had this rocky of a start to his career here that turned out to be good?

At this point, Collins’ resume includes being benched after his first series vs Colgate, struggling in the 4th quarter against Clemson, and today’s disaster.

I don’t want to say the guy is unsalvageable. But I’m racking my brain to think of someone who was this lousy to begin his time at SU yet ended up being a good starter.

I know it's early, but expect Collins to finish out the year and then we won't see him again. One of the young guys will step up to be the backup next year, then step into the starting role the year after or Fran will find someone else in the portal.

 

[HRE Otto IV]

Long term he isn’t going to be the starter here. He isn’t going to beat out Angeli. So his “development” this year will help his future team, not us.

At least with Williams or Carney they could in theory take over after Angeli. That can’t be any worse and it potentially helps us long term.

I am not saying do it now. But if SMU is another Colgate/Clemson/Duke like performance, I don’t see how it makes sense to have him as QB1 the rest of the year.

IMO he should have one more shot to right the ship. Playing any more than that is just throwing the rest of the season away.

 

[sufandu]

Long term he isn’t going to be the starter here. He isn’t going to beat out Angeli. So his “development” this year will help his future team, not us.

At least with Williams or Carney they could in theory take over after Angeli. That can’t be any worse and it potentially helps us long term.

I am not saying do it now. But if SMU is another Colgate/Clemson/Duke like performance, I don’t see how it makes sense to have him as QB1 the rest of the year.

IMO he should have one more shot to right the ship. Playing any more than that is just throwing the rest of the season away.

Do we have any idea how hurt Williams is? I wonder if they would go to him quicker than a true freshman.

 

[CuseBlood44]

Carlos del Río Wilson actually is having himself a nice year for Marshall. They ironically played at Louisiana today because that is the level and type of place Rickie is best suited for it appears

 

[UD1954]

Collins post game gives me pause...
would felt better hearing him act more like a leader and shouldering more blame for our lack of offense...maybe it's just me.

 

[wiseman3]

Do we have any idea how hurt Williams is? I wonder if they would go to him quicker than a true freshman.

He's not hurt. Was not listed on the injury report and I saw him throwing during stoppages in play yesterday, fully dressed

 

[tep624]

He could play the rest of the year and red shirt next year when Steve comes back. With Steve having at least 1 year to play, possibly 2 with a medical waiver, Carney isn't really at risk of "blowing his red shirt". So that shouldn't really be a factor. If Carney shows something they should let the kid cook.

If Steve has a year next year like this year was trending, his stock may blow up and he may leave after 1 year anyway. I think you give Carney a shot and see if he can catch lightning in a bottle.

 

[RedtheGOB]

Long term he isn’t going to be the starter here. He isn’t going to beat out Angeli. So his “development” this year will help his future team, not us.

At least with Williams or Carney they could in theory take over after Angeli. That can’t be any worse and it potentially helps us long term.

I am not saying do it now. But if SMU is another Colgate/Clemson/Duke like performance, I don’t see how it makes sense to have him as QB1 the rest of the year.

IMO he should have one more shot to right the ship. Playing any more than that is just throwing the rest of the season away.

I think you gotta give him the bye week. Pitt at home. The next realistic milestone is UNC at the dome on a Friday night. I fully expect UNC to be a 4 game skid with no P4 wins. At home on a Friday night if things go south with Rickie I say throw something else at them with a backup. That game has to be a win otherwise it's most def a losing record this year.