Run first offense

[memcorsu]

There have been many reasons we have not been as successful as we (players, coaches, fans) have wanted/thought we would be over the few years. Our offense has become very stagnant as we have been poor in our transition offense. Our system Has been focused on getting long lean athletes who can get their hands into lanes to transition or get up for blocks and push the ball with big dunks or hitting the transition 3 on the other end.

I am unsure if it is the system not compatable for the players recruited, missing pieces, injuries, players “trying out for the nba”, “player development”, sanctions,all of the above, none of the above, guard play, little of column B little of column A... I just am confused/not sure what has happened.

It seems we have some interesting pieces on paper that might allow for us to get back to the highlight film SU teams that were fun to watch. I was wondering y’alls take on if you think we might be trying to transition back to the transition or we can expect more of the same with what we got and have coming in. Also why we have struggled so much (might be beating the dead horse on the second one)? I was just watching highlights and made me miss the transition offense so much.


Hakim Warrick Dunk Reel

The Syracuse "Dunk Tape"

 

[newmexicuse]

definitely missing pieces. need a pg who can create. cant run wo rebounds. we need some glass eating horses.

if oshae leaves the rebounding will be worse if that is possible.

jalen was supposed to be the dynamic pg. didnt happen.

three point shooting should improve, but lots of issues in other aspects of the game.

coaching is an issue. we have transparency, every opponent knows exactly what we will be doing. we are the most transparent team in all of college hoops.

 

[OrlandoCuse]

We stopped running when Ennis took over as point. He played a slow, methodical game. Probably the reason he didn’t stick in the NBA.

We’ve been forced to play slower after Ennis left for two main reasons:
1. Lack of depth due to scholarship reductions. We were forced to play slower because we didn’t have the bodies to run
2. Lack of a point guard that can run the offense at a fast pace. Frank was completely incapable of that. We’ve had some busts at PG that were supposed to be that guy (Kaleb). Carey could be that guy but he struggled last year.

 

[tbonezone]

as of right now looking to be guard heavy next season. no power game underneath. we should RUN !!!!

 

[OrangeDW]

as of right now looking to be guard heavy next season. no power game underneath. we should RUN !!!!

Gotta rebound to run though.

 

[Zelda Zonk]

It was both exciting and effective after we got down big to Georgetown, and all we did was run. For that half of a game, it looked very much like it was in our dna again.

 

[Cusefan0307]

I know it’s exciting, but this year more than ever shows you that there’s zero correlation between being a good fast break team and winning. Being efficient in the half court is much more important. Much easier to slow a team down than speed them up.

 

[realorange]

And we have a Final Four that has four teams that run???

 

[JOC44]

We haven't had a guard who could competently run the fast break since probably Scoop, Dion, and Rautins. Frank was the worst at it. He would just fake a pass and try to lay it in himself because he didn't have confidence that he could make even one pass on a fast break.

 

[Gabjon]

Our offensive systems requires front line players who can score in the low post or mid range. We have NEVER had a good team that cannot score from the post or mid range. When we are at our best our 3s come from "specialist" i.e. Cooney, Southerland, Young Andy, or Player that can score from all three levels i.e. Melo, Shumpert, Senior Dmic, Senior C.J. Fair.

The reason for this is simply we recruit to the Zone meaning we rarely play threes guards and we never play fours guards unless its for foul shooting purposes at the end of games.

Our Transition game is spurred by two main factors 1) deflections and steals. 2) long rebounds largely from missed 3s.

The problem with shooting too many threes is it produces long missing, which fuels our opponents transition game, and beat the zone down court will always be the easiest way to beat us.

If you look at this year's team Brissett had to be your efficient scorer from the mid-range it balances the floor and provides offenses rebounding opportunities ours centers (i.e. the keys Craig Forth put back that wins us the big one)

When we beat Duke on Feb. 1 2014 our first meeting as ACC foes we were 3-4 from 3 and they were 15-36. We ran their misses down their throat.

 

[Zelda Zonk]

I know it’s exciting, but this year more than ever shows you that there’s zero correlation between being a good fast break team and winning. Being efficient in the half court is much more efficient. Much easier to slow a team down than speed them up.

That wasn’t really my point.
I’m merely suggesting that a good team is willing and able to exploit opportunities when they’re available, and capable of forcing the issue, and not constantly/consistently in one mode.

 

[RF2044]

I don't know if we need to be a "run first" offense -- although I personally feel that it is a more exciting style of play to watch.

But I DO know that it makes zero sense to intentionally avoid getting easy scoring opportunities in transition. There are only so many tools in an offense's tool kit -- why would you do some and ignore the others?

Feels like that's how we've played the last couple of years.