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Saint Dougie...

Did you see the San Fran fumble recover by Jags, ruled not a fumble forward motion stopped even though it was not? Or all the penalties that were quick thrown flags like the head butt that was a guy jawing with a guy not butting. Jimmy G is real deal.and the niners are a playoff team next year with him, but the Jags in spite of normal bortles still we're shafted numerous times today. Sort of like Jimmy G is the new Brady. And the Niners will.become the new Patriots
Yeah, I don't care.
 
Well, all you bologna buys should take heart - even though Marrone's chances at NFLCOY dropped with today's loss, there's an extremely high chance I'll miss out on a fantasy trophy thanks in part to Blake Bortles.

Karmic justice? Nah, I don't believe in that bologna.

Division Title, 3rd seed. 3-13 last year.

'Nuff said.
 
Yeah 10-5 which is 8 more wins than the super bowl contending N.Y. Giants
 
Yeah 10-5 which is 8 more wins than the super bowl contending N.Y. Giants
I was agreeing with you that the jags are good this year, and if you’ve ever read my posts, you know I’ve been consistent in that dooogie is a good HC...but if you want I can go contrarian just for the hell of it.

Clearly the only reason for the jags turnaround is TC. Marrone was there for the last couple of disaster seasons, so he’s not deserving of any accolades. When things change for the good, one needs to look for the new voice as the reason...and that new voice is future HOFer Tom Coughlin.
 
Making crap up isn't "reasonable analysis."
A guy grows up playing football his whole life starting at pee wee's and ends up as a QB in the NFL. Later in his career he gets on a team (Bills) after the season has started and leads them to 9-7 just missing the playoffs. Still young at 32 on that Bills team which had the best defense in the NFL, maybe for some time, he up and decides to retire. That does not make any sense to people who apply reasonable standards of analysis.
 
A guy grows up playing football his whole life starting at pee wee's and ends up as a QB in the NFL. Later in his career he gets on a team (Bills) after the season has started and leads them to 9-7 just missing the playoffs. Still young at 32 on that Bills team which had the best defense in the NFL, maybe for some time, he up and decides to retire. That does not make any sense to people who apply reasonable standards of analysis.
The 9th win is a bit misleading isn't it? The Bills won a game that the Pats didn't care about.
 
And if Marrone wins at Syracuse, Buffalo and Jacksonville it's all dumb luck.

The problem is that he didn't win in Buffalo. Last time I checked 15-17 is a losing record. Yes I believe he had them on the right track to winning but he still made some horrible coaching decisions.

He was .500 at Syracuse (or right around there) in a marginal BE conference. His record in year 1 gets a pass because he inherited Grob's disaster.

Some of you act like he turned Buffalo into contenders and took SU to the Orange Bowl.
 
A guy grows up playing football his whole life starting at pee wee's and ends up as a QB in the NFL. Later in his career he gets on a team (Bills) after the season has started and leads them to 9-7 just missing the playoffs. Still young at 32 on that Bills team which had the best defense in the NFL, maybe for some time, he up and decides to retire. That does not make any sense to people who apply reasonable standards of analysis.
I'm guessing he didn't believe in the coach.
 
I'm guessing he didn't believe in the coach.
He already knew Marrone was going to be gone and that Whaley wanted a new offensive approach. It was too much for Orton to start new again.
 
He already knew Marrone was going to be gone and that Whaley wanted a new offensive approach. It was too much for Orton to start new again.
Where do you come up with this stuff? This all bs speculation. Orton was going to retire from the Cowboys before he was released and went to Buffalo.
 
He already knew Marrone was going to be gone and that Whaley wanted a new offensive approach. It was too much for Orton to start new again.
Marrone didn't quit until after Orton retired. This is documented fact.

And Whaley never made "offensive approach" decisions.
 
Where do you come up with this stuff? This all bs speculation. Orton was going to retire from the Cowboys before he was released and went to Buffalo.
Since none of the actual happenings were made public, it's all speculation. You just want everyone to believe your speculations about what went down. You Bill fans still take the time to put down Doug, when your current idiot coach and GM bench the starting QB and trade an all-pro linemen to an AFC team in a season where the team had a real chance to make the playoffs.
 
Marrone didn't quit until after Orton retired. This is documented fact.

And Whaley never made "offensive approach" decisions.
They did not want to resign Doug's assistants, that was the reason he left. He said he wanted his assistants signed to 2 year contracts which is how long he had on his HC contract and they said NO.
 
They did not want to resign Doug's assistants, that was the reason he left. He said he wanted his assistants signed to 2 year contracts which is how long he had on his HC contract and they said NO.
Why would they? The offense was terrible.
 
Since none of the actual happenings were made public, it's all speculation. You just want everyone to believe your speculations about what went down. You Bill fans still take the time to put down Doug, when your current idiot coach and GM bench the starting QB and trade an all-pro linemen to an AFC team in a season where the team had a real chance to make the playoffs.
Our "current idiot coach" has a very good chance of leading this team picked my many to win 4 games to its first legitimate 9 win season since 2004. And if things fall right (they won't, of course) playoffs for the first time in nearly two decades. In his first season.
 
Our "current idiot coach" has a very good chance of leading this team picked my many to win 4 games to its first legitimate 9 win season since 2004. And if things fall right (they won't, of course) playoffs for the first time in nearly two decades. In his first season.
Jacksonville won the AFC south and has home playoff game under Doug. JACKSONVILLE!
 
The problem is that he didn't win in Buffalo. Last time I checked 15-17 is a losing record. Yes I believe he had them on the right track to winning but he still made some horrible coaching decisions.

He was .500 at Syracuse (or right around there) in a marginal BE conference. His record in year 1 gets a pass because he inherited Grob's disaster.

Some of you act like he turned Buffalo into contenders and took SU to the Orange Bowl.
He took a team with 8 consecutive years of losing records and had a winning record in his secomd year. Stating his two year record outside of context is silly.

If he gets a pass on year one, doesn't that give him a winning record at Syracuse?

The guy is a good coach. Why are people so reluctant to admit it? Has he made mistakes? Yeah. What coach hasn't? Is he Belichick, Parcells, or Coughlin? No. I don't think anyone has claimed he is. If the only good coaches are the ones that are in or will be in the HOF, that's an awfully short list.
 
He took a team with 8 consecutive years of losing records and had a winning record in his secomd year. Stating his two year record outside of context is silly.

If he gets a pass on year one, doesn't that give him a winning record at Syracuse?

The guy is a good coach. Why are people so reluctant to admit it? Has he made mistakes? Yeah. What coach hasn't? Is he Belichick, Parcells, or Coughlin? No. I don't think anyone has claimed he is. If the only good coaches are the ones that are in or will be in the HOF, that's an awfully short list.

Exactly. I'm a diehard Bills fans so Doug has bailed on both of my favorite teams. But I'm not so butt hurt about it that I can't admit he left both in a hell of a lot better shape than when he came in, especially after the disaster that was GRob.
 
He took a team with 8 consecutive years of losing records and had a winning record in his secomd year. Stating his two year record outside of context is silly.

If he gets a pass on year one, doesn't that give him a winning record at Syracuse?

The guy is a good coach. Why are people so reluctant to admit it? Has he made mistakes? Yeah. What coach hasn't? Is he Belichick, Parcells, or Coughlin? No. I don't think anyone has claimed he is. If the only good coaches are the ones that are in or will be in the HOF, that's an awfully short list.

Never said he wasn't a good coach...go back and read.

The winning record in year 2 in Buffalo was a bit of smoke and mirrors as they beat NE in last game of the season when NE sat almost all of their starters. He wasn't beating NE if NE plays their starters.

I admire what he was able to accomplish at SU, even if his record indicates he was a .500 coach. Doesn't change the facts that he is a jerk and a quitter for how he quit the Bils job.
 
Never said he wasn't a good coach...go back and read.

The winning record in year 2 in Buffalo was a bit of smoke and mirrors as they beat NE in last game of the season when NE sat almost all of their starters. He wasn't beating NE if NE plays their starters.

I admire what he was able to accomplish at SU, even if his record indicates he was a .500 coach. Doesn't change the facts that he is a jerk and a quitter for how he quit the Bils job.
Being a jerk and whether he is a good coach are two separate issues.

People keep citing his "losing record" as evidence against his coaching proficiency. It's weak evidence. There are legendary coaches that had worse starts than him, and his record is a winning one now. Citing his record without context is meaningless.

He exercised a clause in his contract for whatever reason he chose. Blame the management who hired him for the presence of that clause.

He's a jerk. Holy crap, I've never seen a sports professional that was a jerk before. He must be the first one.
 
Being a jerk and whether he is a good coach are two separate issues.

People keep citing his "losing record" as evidence against his coaching proficiency. It's weak evidence. There are legendary coaches that had worse starts than him, and his record is a winning one now. Citing his record without context is meaningless.

He exercised a clause in his contract for whatever reason he chose. Blame the management who hired him for the presence of that clause.

He's a jerk. Holy crap, I've never seen a sports professional that was a jerk before. He must be the first one.

I'm convinced that some people either can not read for context or bend arguments to fit their narrative. Most of the people who dislike Doug never said he wasn't a good coach. I know I have not. What I did say is that he a steaming turd of a human being from most accounts.

I think some people take more joy watching Doug's cronies scramble around to defend him. I mean CouseCuse is a prime example of being a bit over the top.
 
Never said he wasn't a good coach...go back and read.

The winning record in year 2 in Buffalo was a bit of smoke and mirrors as they beat NE in last game of the season when NE sat almost all of their starters. He wasn't beating NE if NE plays their starters.

I admire what he was able to accomplish at SU, even if his record indicates he was a .500 coach. Doesn't change the facts that he is a jerk and a quitter for how he quit the Bils job.
Never said you specifically. Go back and read. However, you did reference his lack of a winning record, similar to the people that use that to assert he is not a good coach. What was your point with that?
 

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