Scott Frost thread...

[SUFan44]

Yeah - I listened to that this morning. He thinks he's weird.

I think that's some reporter bias (i.e. I didn't get a good interview with him so he wouldn't be a good coach).

Besides, lots of coaches are weird.

But he went farther than "weird" He said a little more after that. But i agree, he's just a reporter who more than likely had some sort of run in.

Wolken, himself, is weird. He should really look in the mirror.

In fact, I would prefer a head coach that was disliked by Wolken. Means he's normal.

 

[jekelish]

Wolken, himself, is weird. He should really look in the mirror.

In fact, I would prefer a head coach that was disliked by Wolken. Means he's normal.

Yeah, I don't put any stock into what a journalist thinks about a coach he dislikes. I've met enough reporters to know that, by and large, a lot of them hold the pettiest grudges. Coaches do too, of course. Everyone does. But I don't doubt that Wolken took some kind of offense to something Frost did at some point and now just doesn't like him for whatever reason.

Coyle loves Frost. That's more important to me than what Wolken thinks.

 

[Finwad32]

I've listened to enough journalists in this area, to know that the football specific media locally doesn't know their hole from their elbow.

 

[AAM62]

We play 2 games every other year in possible cold weather. That's 2 out of 24.

22 in a controlled environment or in warm weather.

(How'd I do Millhouse?)

It gets chilly in oregon too...

 

[supp]

My big concern with Scott Frost is can this guy put together a solid staff? Does he have the contacts and pull to bring in top-flight assistants? One good thing with hiring someone who's already a head coach is that he's going to bring his assistants with him. They've all likely worked with one another for some time. They're all on the same page. They've all been tried and tested.

 

[Frozen]

My big concern with Scott Frost is can this guy put together a solid staff? Does he have the contacts and pull to bring in top-flight assistants? One good thing with hiring someone who's already a head coach is that he's going to bring his assistants with him. They've all likely worked with one another for some time. They're all on the same page. They've all been tried and tested.

I'm sure all guys who aspire to be head coaches and are currently respected coordinators make a list of who they would want on their staff. I'm not too concerned about the lack of HC experience if the guy is talented.

 

[PhatOrange]

My big concern with Scott Frost is can this guy put together a solid staff? Does he have the contacts and pull to bring in top-flight assistants? One good thing with hiring someone who's already a head coach is that he's going to bring his assistants with him. They've all likely worked with one another for some time. They're all on the same page. They've all been tried and tested.

yup, agreed

 

[cuseman404]

Jek have we heard anything about timeframe for a new coach and B who are they leaving in charge from the old staff after Saturday?

 

[TheCusian]

 

[phil77]

I am sold. He talks well and has a very deep coaching back ground.

 

[tep624]

My big concern with Scott Frost is can this guy put together a solid staff? Does he have the contacts and pull to bring in top-flight assistants? One good thing with hiring someone who's already a head coach is that he's going to bring his assistants with him. They've all likely worked with one another for some time. They're all on the same page. They've all been tried and tested.

If the Ed O thing plays out that would be a hell of a start.

 

[TheCusian]

I am sold. He talks well and has a very deep coaching back ground.

And he already knows how to poke fun at Narduzzi.

 

[cuse309]

What about recruiting ties to the Northeast? He's successful in Oregon with mostly 4 star and a few 5 star athletes...what can he do with our limited talent? How will he come into NJ or PA or down south when he has built recruiting cache out west and in the midwest? Or is this just something to not be concerned about?

 

[storange]

What about recruiting ties to the Northeast? He's successful in Oregon with mostly 4 star and a few 5 star athletes...what can he do with our limited talent? How will he come into NJ or PA or down south when he has built recruiting cache out west and in the midwest? Or is this just something to not be concerned about?

Not a big concern if he brings in some assistants with NE recruiting ties

 

[HeaterCuse22]

What about recruiting ties to the Northeast? He's successful in Oregon with mostly 4 star and a few 5 star athletes...what can he do with our limited talent? How will he come into NJ or PA or down south when he has built recruiting cache out west and in the midwest? Or is this just something to not be concerned about?

Well therein lies the rub with making a coaching switch. You know who had a staff with a recuiter who could recruit NJ and PA and the northeast?

 

[phil77]

What about recruiting ties to the Northeast? He's successful in Oregon with mostly 4 star and a few 5 star athletes...what can he do with our limited talent? How will he come into NJ or PA or down south when he has built recruiting cache out west and in the midwest? Or is this just something to not be concerned about?

Oregon, TCU and Baylor didn't start the turn around getting 4-5 star recruits. They built an awesome offensive system to take advantage of space. They start with 3 star recruits like we get now. Once the system started to roll and points began to pile up then the 4-5 star recruits took notice and Started coming.

Recruiting ties are the same win with a high powered offense and recruits will come. It will be very important who he selects as his assistant. Not everyone on the staff has to have northeast ties but you do need some staff members with them. I think Acosta is worth keeping because of this.

 

[tep624]

What about recruiting ties to the Northeast? He's successful in Oregon with mostly 4 star and a few 5 star athletes...what can he do with our limited talent? How will he come into NJ or PA or down south when he has built recruiting cache out west and in the midwest? Or is this just something to not be concerned about?

I'm willing to bet at least a few of the current assistants will be retained and that will help. This staff made IL and MI secondary priority states and Frost does have a strong Midwest background, so there is some overlap.

But yeah, he'll need solid NJ/PA/NY recruiters and FL/GA.

 

[baggerbob]

Wolken, himself, is weird. He should really look in the mirror.

In fact, I would prefer a head coach that was disliked by Wolken. Means he's normal.

Being on Axe's show doesn't qualify you as being a good judge of coaches, so he'd be a good hire.

 

[Statesman1]

So dumb. Just hire an assistant with these so-called ties, if you must believe this an absolute. Either a staff can recruit or they can't.

True, but you are underestimating the importance of relationships with HS coaches. We can't waste time trying to get introductory appointments while we're trying to play catch up in recruiting.

 

[TheCusian]

True, but you are underestimating the importance of relationships with HS coaches. We can't waste time trying to get introductory appointments while we're trying to play catch up in recruiting.

Retain or grab a good NJ guy, a good FL guy - and then say "hi I'm Scott Frost and I coached offense at Oregon"...

That should carry at least some weight.

 

[GoSU96]

What about recruiting ties to the Northeast? He's successful in Oregon with mostly 4 star and a few 5 star athletes...what can he do with our limited talent? How will he come into NJ or PA or down south when he has built recruiting cache out west and in the midwest? Or is this just something to not be concerned about?

There's this thing called 50 games a week on another thing called cable and another thing called the internet.

I think everyone who would be concerned has heard of Oregon.

 

[cuse309]

There's this thing called 50 games a week on another thing called cable and another thing called the internet.
I think everyone who would be concerned has heard of Oregon.

I recall New Orleans high powered offense being on those things you mentioned...didn't seem to carry a lot of weight for prospective recruits when Marrone was on the trail, I also recall G-Rob's defense at N.C. Texas, and 2 Superbowls at Denver being on a lot of media outlets...again...no dice...or am I comparing apples and oranges?
Not trying to be a wet blanket, I just legitimately wonder if this is a concern. Like I said, We had a coach with 2 superbowl rings as a d coordinator, and another ring in the same position at college, and we had a coach that was the offensive coordinator for the most high octane offense in the NFL, and it didn't move the recruiting meter much if any. So because an offensive coordinator from the west coast runs a high octane offense, recruits will be doing backflips to play at SU? I'm not so sure...

 

[IthacaBarrel]

Well therein lies the rub with making a coaching switch. You know who had a staff with a recuiter who could recruit NJ and PA and the northeast?

The same staff that has won a total of 6 games the past two years and 4 versus fbs comp and 2 versus P5, same staff. That staff?

 

[HeaterCuse22]

The same staff that has won a total of 6 games the past two years and 4 versus fbs comp and 2 versus P5, same staff. That staff?

Was simply striking a comparison to that one issue a poster brought up. no need to rehash.

 

[NKR1978]

I recall New Orleans high powered offense being on those things you mentioned...didn't seem to carry a lot of weight for prospective recruits when Marrone was on the trail, I also recall G-Rob's defense at N.C. Texas, and 2 Superbowls at Denver being on a lot of media outlets...again...no dice...or am I comparing apples and oranges?
Not trying to be a wet blanket, I just legitimately wonder if this is a concern. Like I said, We had a coach with 2 superbowl rings as a d coordinator, and another ring in the same position at college, and we had a coach that was the offensive coordinator for the most high octane offense in the NFL, and it didn't move the recruiting meter much if any. So because an offensive coordinator from the west coast runs a high octane offense, recruits will be doing backflips to play at SU? I'm not so sure...

You're right. No matter who we get will fail.

Shafer and 3-9 with the occasional hard nosed 7-6 is our ceiling. Who the hell are we thinking we can do better.

We've never had a coach try to sell offense in a freaking Dome. Even Doug was a pro guy. He didn't come in putting up 600 yards per game in the Pac 12.