Scott Frost thread...

[Jeepers]

Starting the Scott Frost look-a-like early.

 

[Crusty]

I've listened to enough journalists in this area, to know that the football specific media locally doesn't know their hole from their elbow.

AND they seem to hold petty grudges. That latest piece by Chris Carlson labeled "analysis" might as well have been labeled -character assassination ". It is the worst kind of writing (I refuse to call it journalism) and is berneath contempt. Scott Shafer has more character and class in his little finger than that brat has in his entire body.
Just my opinion.

 

[SU94]

On the surface, I am excited by the notion of hiring Scott Frost, whose last name is so perfect it would seem contrived.

But I am hesitant to import a coach from the Left Coast. So, I was thinking, which coaches have enjoyed success after leaving their geographic niche, and which have been failures? There is no doubt that there are circumstances involved with all of these coaches, but for this exercise, that is not important. Please add any that are relevant…

Success
Dennis Erickson (Wash State to Miami)
Urban Meyer (BGSU/Utah to Florida)
Nick Saban (Mich State to LSU)
Les Miles (Michigan to Oklahoma State/LSU)
Mack Brown (Tulane to UNC … how did he get that gig, he went 11-23 at Tulane)
Pete Carroll (Patriots to Southern California/did spend 2 years with 49ers as DC)
Rich Rodriguez (WVU/Michigan to Arizona) ... moderate success
Dave Wannstedt (NFL to Pitt/was a player and GA at Pitt 25-30 years earlier)
John Cooper (Tulsa/ASU to Ohio State)

Fail
Terry Shea (Stanford to Rutgers)
Ed Orgerson (Miami/SU/Southern Cal To Ole Miss)
Ty Willingham (Stanford to Notre Dame/could argue that ND is so national that they could not make this list)
John Bunting (Chiefs/Rams to UNC … he was an alum however)
Lane Kiffin (NFL to Tennessee/he did not really fail on the field, went 7-6)

I am sure there are more, especially among fails, but I am fatigued thinking about it.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

Starting the Scott Frost look-a-like early.

That's the Butcher of Luverne.

 

[OrangeNC]

Frost/Orgeron

This would be a game changer, but how would it work? Who would be head coach? Is it dependent on
Miles being bought out?

 

[CuseOnly]

Good luck running a warm weather offense against @Pitt and @BC in December, and good luck out-Florida-ing FSU and Clemson.

Do you honestly believe that coaches care what the weather is and use the weather as to what to install on offense?

Remember where Oregon plays? Or Washington State? Or Boise State?

The only change they make is what plays they call. Good Grief.

 

[orangepassion]

Frost would definitely be HC

Frost/Orgeron

This would be a game changer, but how would it work? Who would be head coach? Is it dependent on
Miles being bought out?

 

[CuseOnly]

Actually, switching to a wet coast offense knocked us to the bottom of the football world. Before that we were in a position where we could get upset over being .500.

Switching to a left coast offense with historically the worst coach in FBS history with an inept OC knocked us to the bottom of the FBS.

 

[PAcuse]

 

[Dr. Bill]

Frost/Orgeron

This would be a game changer, but how would it work? Who would be head coach? Is it dependent on
Miles being bought out?

I like coach O...but this scares me!

Upon arriving at "Ole Miss", Orgeron attempted to bring USC's passing game coordinator, Lane Kiffin, with him as the new offensive coordinator, but Kiffin opted to stay with the Trojans.[12]

Entering the 2005 season, Orgeron had hoped to bring a USC-style offense to the Southeastern Conference (SEC), but found limited success. The University of Mississippi's offense finished the season ranked 111th out of 117 Division I-A schools, in total offense; 115th in scoring; and, 116th in rushing. Though Orgeron's defensive experience, along with returning linebacker Patrick Willis, helped the Rebel defense in 2005, the offense always seemed to produce more interceptions than touchdowns. As a result, the 2005 team struggled and finished the season with a record of three wins and eight losses—the Rebels' worst record since 1987.

In response to the results of his first season, Orgeron fired offensive coordinator Noel Mazzone,[13] replacing him with former University of Miami offensive coordinator Dan Werner.[14] Also, Orgeron hired Art Kehoe, the longtime offensive line coach at the University of Miami; both assistants had just been fired by the University of Miami. In 2006, Ole' Miss finished the season ranked #108 in scoring offense, #111 in total offense, and #112 in passing offense.[15]

Orgeron's second recruiting class in February 2006 was successful, acquiring the written pledges of a national Top 15 signing class.[16]He followed that with the 32nd ranked recruiting class in February 2007.[17]

At Ole Miss, Orgeron recorded only two wins against teams with winning records (the 2005 and 2007 Memphis teams, which both finished at 7-5)—the fewest among active SEC coaches at the time. Until the 2007 season, he enjoyed the public support of The University of Mississippi's chancellor Robert Khayat and other administrators with oversight of the football program, including Athletic Director Pete Boone. In a November 2006 article in The Clarion-Ledger, Khayat said of Orgeron and the poor win/loss record since he was hired (7–14, at the time of the interview), "I think Coach Orgeron inherited a very difficult situation...I am 100 percent behind him, and I think that people ought to understand that he has a big challenge."

In 2007, Ole' Miss finished the season 0–8 against fellow SEC teams, and 3–9 overall. It was the program's first winless (conference) season since 1982.

On November 24, 2007, after Ole Miss blew a 14-point fourth-quarter lead to in-state rival Mississippi State in the season finale, Orgeron was fired. He was replaced by former University of Arkansas head coach Houston Nutt (who had resigned from the Arkansas program three days after Orgeron's firing).

 

[CuseOnly]

maybe we should go get an offensive coordinator who played in the nfl who some dismiss as being along for the ride with a more famous offensive head coach

We can't afford a more famous head coach.

 

[phil77]

So Fuente to VT and Herman to South Carolina. Looks like the coaches are signs early. Hope Coyle has bus man already.

 

[cuse309]

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i lol'ed

 

[Oswego93]

Another day passes, and I want Frost all the more. I know that may frost Don McPherson's ass (just read his thoughts on the matter), but I think he can assemble assistants with the necessary NE recruiting chops.

 

[Millhouse]

Starting the Scott Frost look-a-like early.

wait a second landry jones was in breaking bad ?

 

[jekelish]

wait a second landry jones was in breaking bad ?

He's murdered people in three different acclaimed shows now.

 

[McNabb2Brominski]

What's with all the love for this guy? I get that hes done really well as Oregon's OC for the past 3 years but also consider the talent he has had. He had Marcus Mariota as his QB for 2 years among a bunch of other 4/5 star players...that inflates his stock a little bit. Do we currently have the players that would fit his offense or do we have to rebuild it? Not saying he would be a bad hire, I just dont understand why it seems he is the consensus pick?

 

[phil77]

What's with all the love for this guy? I get that hes done really well as Oregon's OC for the past 3 years but also consider the talent he has had. He had Marcus Mariota as his QB for 2 years among a bunch of other 4/5 star players...that inflates his stock a little bit. Do we currently have the players that would fit his offense or do we have to rebuild it? Not saying he would be a bad hire, I just dont understand why it seems he is the consensus pick?

Read through the thread a lot of these would be answered

 

[djorange1989]

I love the speech that he gave at the Broyles Awards. Really bright and funny guy. And who gives a damn if he is "weird" like Wolken says he is. I guess Michigan shouldn't have hired Harbaugh if weird is bad.

 

[721Comstock]

I love the speech that he gave at the Broyles Awards. Really bright and funny guy. And who gives a damn if he is "weird" like Wolken says he is. I guess Michigan shouldn't have hired Harbaugh if weird is bad.

"Weird" is just fine in college, where the entire roster turns over every 4-5 years.
HARBAUGH!! wore out his welcome in SF because his schtick gets old after a few years.
He won't have that problem in college.

Hire Frosty the Dome Man, get Ed O (or another great recruiter) as DC/AHC, and dust off your bowling shoes.

 

[jekelish]

By the way, Coyle isn't the only connection Frost has at Syracuse. Jason Poles played with Frost for the Jets in 1999. They definitely know each other.

 

[Crusty]

By the way, Coyle isn't the only connection Frost has at Syracuse. Jason Poles played with Frost for the Jets in 1999. They definitely know each other.

Yikes the Jets. Maybe you should have kept that quiet!

 

[Frozen]

Doc Gross also worked with GRob for a while with the Jets, and that worked out pretty good.

 

[O-pulse]

My big concern with Scott Frost is can this guy put together a solid staff? Does he have the contacts and pull to bring in top-flight assistants? One good thing with hiring someone who's already a head coach is that he's going to bring his assistants with him. They've all likely worked with one another for some time. They're all on the same page. They've all been tried and tested.

If Coyle pulls the trigger and lands Frost, I am certain that he will mentor Scott in the area of assistants as well as other important aspects of the HC position.

 

[Crusty]

If Coyle pulls the trigger and lands Frost, I am certain that he will mentor Scott in the area of assistants as well as other important aspects of the HC position.

Who is going to mentor Coyle?