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We need some of thatHad 13 pts and a T at half.
We need some of thatHad 13 pts and a T at half.
Could be hyperbole or could be a sign. Just thought I’d point it out. And you do not see it every day in HS.You see this in HS at every level- doing that is not a sign of a uncoachable player. He hasn't shown to have issues like this to date in other games. Take it easy on the hyperbole.
Could be hyperbole or could be a sign. Just thought I’d point it out. And you do not see it every day in HS.
We need some of this tbh. Our teams the past few seasons have been way too passive and nice.Slapping the ball specifically? No. Jawing, trashtalking and posturing? Yes you do. Even in rural single A games. Come on now if you don't think it's every game you haven't played. It's almost always more visually present in bigger showcase or rivalry games too
Point is there haven't been concerns to date with this kid and thus its nothing more than overkill in a big game like this. I also don't see him starting as a frosh either.
We need some of this tbh. Our teams the past few seasons have been way too passive and nice.
These kids are just copying what the NBA guys do. How many of the biggest stars complain incessantly about every single call. And the refs do nothing about it.Slapping the ball specifically? No. Jawing, trashtalking and posturing? Yes you do. Even in rural single A games. Come on now if you don't think it's every game you haven't played. It's almost always more visually present in bigger showcase or rivalry games too
Point is there haven't been concerns to date with this kid and thus its nothing more than overkill in a big game like this. I also don't see him starting as a frosh either.
Gayle looked terrible in the game, didn't do much of anything. Doesn't move well without the ball.We will see what we have next year.
Gotta also say really not impressed with Gayle as much anymore. Good player but doesn't look like a kid that will be an impact player as a frosh. Maybe in year two or three.
Gayle looked terrible in the game, didn't do much of anything. Doesn't move well without the ball.
Not sure how accurate the rankings are with Covid. Lots of variables at play.Exactly. Was surprised how poor he has looked given he looked like a guy shooting up the ranks for a while in 2020.
Not sure how accurate the rankings are with Covid. Lots of variables at play.
Doesn't seem to be super athletic. Mostly skilled.
In the highlight, at the end of his dunk, it looks like he smacks the ball before the other guy inbounds it. Not gonna fly at any level.
Hope that isn't an indication of his attitude towards coaching. If it is, could be some issues if JB is the coach.
Perfect description as we are seeing hopefully with the transformation of Benny. Definitely need to be proactive instead of reactive and eventually the game will slow down where you can make a major impact.He's extremely athletic.
But the knocks on him are that he's:
So, I think people need to temper their expectations. He's got the right size for a 3 in our system, but it remains to be seen how the effort level will translate. The ability to run and jump can be a big advantage on the court, but it's neutralized if you stand around, watch the ball instead of chasing rebounds, and shy away from contact. And despite his ability from three, he seems more like a streak shooter than someone who is a marksman.
- A stationary jump shooter without much other perimeter versatility [i.e., lack of handle, passing, driving]
- Doesn't work hard on the glass
- Plays like a disinterested defender
This one is so nice that likes to give back big leads.We need some of this tbh. Our teams the past few seasons have been way too passive and nice.
| Player | Points | Assists | Rebounds | Blocks | Steals | FG% | 3P% | 2P% | FT% | TS% | Turnovers | Minutes |
| Gayle Jr, Roddy | 15.8 | 3.0 | 5.3 | 0.2 | 1.5 | 37.5% | 18.2% | 44.8% | 88.6% | 49.8% | 3.7 | 30.0 |
| Lightfoot, Willie | 13.5 | 3.5 | 6.5 | 0.5 | 1.5 | 39.3% | 14.3% | 47.6% | 80.0% | 44.7% | 3.0 | 30.0 |
| Hronsky, Matus | 10.7 | 1.8 | 3.2 | 0.8 | 0.8 | 51.1% | 45.5% | 64.3% | 100.0% | 67.5% | 1.3 | 27.2 |
| Bunch, Christopher | 8.3 | 0.5 | 2.2 | 1.3 | 0.5 | 28.6% | 27.5% | 30.4% | 75.0% | 38.6% | 3.7 | 25.5 |
| Keita, Keba | 8.3 | 0.2 | 6.5 | 1.7 | 0.2 | 78.6% | 78.6% | 37.5% | 71.3% | 1.7 | 21.2 | |
| Wrzeszcz, Anthony | 1.8 | 2.5 | 2.7 | 0.0 | 0.7 | 15.4% | 21.4% | 8.3% | 21.2% | 2.3 | 20.8 | |
| Huang, Je Yi | 0.8 | 0.6 | 1.6 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 40.0% | 0.0% | 66.7% | 0.0% | 36.8% | 2.2 | 16.2 |
| Player | Points | Assists | Rebounds | Blocks | Steals | FG% | 3P% | 2P% | FT% | TS% | Turnovers | Minutes | Committed |
| Mintz, Judah | 19.6 | 3.0 | 2.4 | 0.0 | 0.6 | 52.2% | 36.4% | 55.4% | 77.4% | 60.8% | 2.4 | 26.6 | Pittsburgh Lean |
| Howard, Jett | 18.3 | 1.3 | 3.0 | 0.7 | 1.3 | 60.7% | 58.8% | 63.6% | 78.6% | 80.5% | 0.7 | 21.0 | Michigan |
| Walker, Jarace | 17.3 | 4.3 | 7.3 | 1.5 | 1.0 | 75.8% | 50.0% | 79.3% | 68.0% | 78.4% | 1.8 | 25.8 | Houston |
| Holloway, Aden | 17.2 | 2.4 | 5.4 | 0.0 | 1.0 | 61.7% | 66.7% | 57.7% | 93.3% | 80.2% | 1.2 | 23.2 | None |
| Cook, Marquis | 17.0 | 0.0 | 1.0 | 0.0 | 1.0 | 87.5% | 66.7% | 100.0% | 100.0% | 100.7% | 0.0 | 18.0 | None |
| Dick, Gradey | 16.8 | 1.3 | 4.5 | 1.3 | 1.3 | 43.8% | 41.7% | 50.0% | 62.5% | 60.9% | 1.0 | 30.3 | Kansas Lean |
| Mitchell, Mark | 16.8 | 2.3 | 6.5 | 0.0 | 0.5 | 43.3% | 20.0% | 48.0% | 61.9% | 48.4% | 2.0 | 30.0 | Duke |
| Gayle Jr, Roddy | 15.8 | 3.0 | 5.3 | 0.2 | 1.5 | 37.5% | 18.2% | 44.8% | 88.6% | 49.8% | 3.7 | 30.0 | Ohio State |
| Carr, Coen | 15.0 | 0.4 | 5.4 | 1.8 | 1.2 | 53.8% | 14.3% | 60.0% | 66.7% | 58.7% | 1.2 | 27.6 | None |
| Mabrey, Ryan | 14.3 | 1.7 | 2.7 | 0.0 | 1.0 | 47.1% | 42.9% | 53.8% | 100.0% | 61.6% | 1.3 | 23.3 | None |
| Roberts, Travis | 14.0 | 0.8 | 3.8 | 0.2 | 1.2 | 42.9% | 48.6% | 36.4% | 75.0% | 57.1% | 1.7 | 26.8 | Jacksonville St |
| Westry, Chance | 14.0 | 6.0 | 3.0 | 1.0 | 1.0 | 85.7% | 100.0% | 83.3% | 50.0% | 88.8% | 3.0 | 15.0 | Auburn |
| Starling, J.J. | 13.8 | 1.6 | 6.6 | 0.2 | 1.2 | 48.2% | 37.9% | 59.3% | 66.7% | 58.8% | 2.0 | 27.2 | Notre Dame |
| Whitehead, Dariq | 13.8 | 3.4 | 4.0 | 0.6 | 0.8 | 41.5% | 32.1% | 48.6% | 60.0% | 49.7% | 0.6 | 25.2 | Duke |
| Lightfoot, Willie | 13.5 | 3.5 | 6.5 | 0.5 | 1.5 | 39.3% | 14.3% | 47.6% | 80.0% | 44.7% | 3.0 | 30.0 | Bowling Green |
He’s a classic SU player with those three descriptors.He's extremely athletic.
But the knocks on him are that he's:
So, I think people need to temper their expectations. He's got the right size for a 3 in our system, but it remains to be seen how the effort level will translate. The ability to run and jump can be a big advantage on the court, but it's neutralized if you stand around, watch the ball instead of chasing rebounds, and shy away from contact. And despite his ability from three, he seems more like a streak shooter than someone who is a marksman.
- A stationary jump shooter without much other perimeter versatility [i.e., lack of handle, passing, driving]
- Doesn't work hard on the glass
- Plays like a disinterested defender
I’d be shocked if he’s more than a solid bench contributor next season. But I hope you’re right. I don’t have a good sense of the potential for these 2022 recruits. (I knew Kadary would be a contributor from day 1 because I’d watched some of his Brewster games online.) I’m assuming we’ll bring in 2-3 guys from the transfer portal. I also think there’s a chance Buddy could be back for a fifth year.Still first half and Bunch has made 3-4 3’s and a dunk for 11 points. He’s the freshman that will start next year.
As someone who plays high school ball, this is nothing lol. There's a lot worse that could be done and said than slapping the ballDoesn't seem to be super athletic. Mostly skilled.
In the highlight, at the end of his dunk, it looks like he smacks the ball before the other guy inbounds it. Not gonna fly at any level.
Hope that isn't an indication of his attitude towards coaching. If it is, could be some issues if JB is the coach.
The NIBC games are all available on ESPN+. I've only watched two or three so far though.This is a weird era in college hoops. I thought the evolution of players was ongoing—bigger, stronger, more skilled youth. But the overall quality of play in college feels way down. And now we are seeing recruits going to high major programs who aren’t even averaging impressive numbers against high school competition. Bizarre. Only thing i can think of is that the Steph Curry effect has changed the landscape to the negative, and that social media is a misleading recruit PR tool.
I thought Bunch had turned a corner and was putting up big numbers lately, but a 8 point average, half an assist and three rebounds… feels like any Starter should get that by accident.
How are you guys watching his games? ‘Pay per view’ through the school’s site?
Thank you!The NIBC games are all available on ESPN+. I've only watched two or three so far though.
Also, he has been putting up better numbers lately, but those numbers came in non-NIBC games (generally lower quality opponents). Also FWIW, the one game I was missing was the one against IMG that Wasatch almost pulled off the upset in. I found the box score now: Bunch had 14 points on 4/12 shooting (3/9 from 3 and 3/3 from the FT line).Thank you!
Not a bad 3pt% for Westry. 6 APG as well.A bit limited by the fact that NIBC doesn't always post the box scores for every game, but they've now posted 6 of their 7 NIBC games for Wasatch and his team's numbers are as follows:
Player Points Assists Rebounds Blocks Steals FG% 3P% 2P% FT% TS% Turnovers Minutes Gayle Jr, Roddy 15.8 3.0 5.3 0.2 1.5 37.5% 18.2% 44.8% 88.6% 49.8% 3.7 30.0Lightfoot, Willie 13.5 3.5 6.5 0.5 1.5 39.3% 14.3% 47.6% 80.0% 44.7% 3.0 30.0Hronsky, Matus 10.7 1.8 3.2 0.8 0.8 51.1% 45.5% 64.3% 100.0% 67.5% 1.3 27.2Bunch, Christopher 8.3 0.5 2.2 1.3 0.5 28.6% 27.5% 30.4% 75.0% 38.6% 3.7 25.5Keita, Keba 8.3 0.2 6.5 1.7 0.2 78.6% 78.6% 37.5% 71.3% 1.7 21.2Wrzeszcz, Anthony 1.8 2.5 2.7 0.0 0.7 15.4% 21.4% 8.3% 21.2% 2.3 20.8Huang, Je Yi 0.8 0.6 1.6 0.0 0.0 40.0% 0.0% 66.7% 0.0% 36.8% 2.2 16.2
And for those interested, here's the top 15 scorers so far (as well as who they're committed to):
Player Points Assists Rebounds Blocks Steals FG% 3P% 2P% FT% TS% Turnovers Minutes Committed Mintz, Judah 19.6 3.0 2.4 0.0 0.6 52.2% 36.4% 55.4% 77.4% 60.8% 2.4 26.6Pittsburgh Lean Howard, Jett 18.3 1.3 3.0 0.7 1.3 60.7% 58.8% 63.6% 78.6% 80.5% 0.7 21.0Michigan Walker, Jarace 17.3 4.3 7.3 1.5 1.0 75.8% 50.0% 79.3% 68.0% 78.4% 1.8 25.8Houston Holloway, Aden 17.2 2.4 5.4 0.0 1.0 61.7% 66.7% 57.7% 93.3% 80.2% 1.2 23.2None Cook, Marquis 17.0 0.0 1.0 0.0 1.0 87.5% 66.7% 100.0% 100.0% 100.7% 0.0 18.0None Dick, Gradey 16.8 1.3 4.5 1.3 1.3 43.8% 41.7% 50.0% 62.5% 60.9% 1.0 30.3Kansas Lean Mitchell, Mark 16.8 2.3 6.5 0.0 0.5 43.3% 20.0% 48.0% 61.9% 48.4% 2.0 30.0Duke Gayle Jr, Roddy 15.8 3.0 5.3 0.2 1.5 37.5% 18.2% 44.8% 88.6% 49.8% 3.7 30.0Ohio State Carr, Coen 15.0 0.4 5.4 1.8 1.2 53.8% 14.3% 60.0% 66.7% 58.7% 1.2 27.6None Mabrey, Ryan 14.3 1.7 2.7 0.0 1.0 47.1% 42.9% 53.8% 100.0% 61.6% 1.3 23.3None Roberts, Travis 14.0 0.8 3.8 0.2 1.2 42.9% 48.6% 36.4% 75.0% 57.1% 1.7 26.8Jacksonville St Westry, Chance 14.0 6.0 3.0 1.0 1.0 85.7% 100.0% 83.3% 50.0% 88.8% 3.0 15.0Auburn Starling, J.J. 13.8 1.6 6.6 0.2 1.2 48.2% 37.9% 59.3% 66.7% 58.8% 2.0 27.2Notre Dame Whitehead, Dariq 13.8 3.4 4.0 0.6 0.8 41.5% 32.1% 48.6% 60.0% 49.7% 0.6 25.2Duke Lightfoot, Willie 13.5 3.5 6.5 0.5 1.5 39.3% 14.3% 47.6% 80.0% 44.7% 3.0 30.0Bowling Green