Smoke or BS in CT (B1G)?

[cuseguy]

Whoa Whoa Whoa easy my friend your letting your Uconn friends take over your better judgement. 1. There is no B10 offer for Uconn, this is some radio guy that per the Boneyard is always wrong about Uconn. 2. Uconn isn't out recruiting Umass less Syracuse. Cuse has what now 7 or 8 commits? UConn has the grand total of 0. They had one of the worst Div 1 classes in the nation last year and probably won't be much better next year. 3. Syracuse finished with a higher class per Scout and Rivals then Buttgers last year and Rutgers current class is full of kids with no Div 1 offers besides Rutgers. There last commit had one offer ( Monmouth). B10 from a rivalry standpoint is debatable, Penn State hasnt been a Rival since the 80's, Maryland was never a rival, and Rutgers was a team where both fanbases hated each other. If you want to be Uconns rival for the near future your goign to have to learn the rosters of Memphis or UCF real quick.

No influence from UConn friends whatsoever.

I realize UConn football recruiting is down now, but B1G invite, should it happen, would put them back on solid footing with SU, BC and others. Don't kid yourself.

Personally, I'd rather be in a conference with UConn, Rutgers, Maryland, Penn State...and Ohio State.

One year in and I'm already bored with the ACC. The novelty wore off pretty quickly.

We'll see if this has any legs.

I stand my ground.

 

[NKR1978]

The ACC isn't getting MSG long term if UConn and Rutgers are in the B1G.

I agree with you about the ACC grabbing UConn. But I felt that way, as you know, when they took Louisville instead.

I've been to the BET when we've played UConn and we had more fans there in 09, 11 and 12. The streets and bars before all those games were filled with Syracuse fans. That's likely because Syracuse fans largely live in the City whereas UConn fans largely had to come in on Metro North. If we had done our job and beat Dayton we would have owned MSG and our fans would have outnumbered theirs by far.

UConn is a huge get. It makes sense now that football is shored up to go after a flagship state university that will bring in cable boxes. I do fear that the ACC will miss the boat on UConn, but I don't think UConn being in the B1G hurts us.

Syracuse/UNC/Louisville/Duke/ND/Virginia in an ACC Tournament would be bigger draws than Michigan/UConn/MSU/Indiana. Rutgers doesn't count. They never brought anyone to the BET. I don't see why they would start bringing people to a B1g tournament in MSG.

 

[cuseguy]

If scott Grey knows this, where are the other reporters in Ct on this?

Scott Grey is pretty reliable. We'll see.

 

[MaxwellCuse]

I've noticed that Bees' "friend" Kyle Lamb has been hanging around the Boneyard. Lately, he's been saying the B1G will be landing UCONN sooner rather than later, although I don't think he's been as date specific as this Scott Grey guy.

 

[MaxwellCuse]

No one conference will "lock up New York."

I'm one of the few who thinks the ACC should take UConn now because of the value they could bring to an ACC network, but that report is just one guy speculating. And what else has the B1G beaten the ACC to the punch over? They certainly don't beat the ACC on the field when it matters.

Like you I would prefer to see UCONN in the ACC. What's that old saw about keeping your friends close and your enemies closer?

 

[JeremyCuse]

No influence from UConn friends whatsoever.

I realize UConn football recruiting is down now, but B1G invite, should it happen, would put them back on solid footing with SU, BC and others. Don't kid yourself.

Personally, I'd rather be in a conference with UConn, Rutgers, Maryland, Penn State...and Ohio State.

One year in and I'm already bored with the ACC. The novelty wore off pretty quickly.

We'll see if this has any legs.

I stand my ground.

Yeah that B10 invite has done wonders for Rutgers and there recruiting, ditto for Maryland. Both of there premier programs RU football, Maryland bball are complete train wrecks right now and neither can get out of its own way.

Even when UConn was on par with BC and Syracuse where they ever out recruiting Syracuse? Even the Grob years we had higher rated classes, we just had an incompetent staff.

Not to repeat myself but if you want to be in a conference with Uconn you have to joing the AAC, despite this thread there not in the B10.

Give the ACC sometime, we didnt play VA tech, Miami, or Lville. It wont take long for old passions to come back once we start playing those guys again. ACC is where we belong, Syracuse has no business playing Purdue, Illinois, Iowa, etc.

 

[SmilinBob]

UConn would just be a shot across the ACC bow. An NC or VA school would be the direct hit.

Part of me thinks this is just a scare technique by the Big 10 to get the ACC to jump and grab UConn thus pissing off the football schools.

 

[PhatOrange]

Don't see the novelty of ACC basketball wearing off ever.

 

[NKR1978]

UConn would just be a shot across the ACC bow. An NC or VA school would be the direct hit.

And if they take UConn, then their dreams of Virginia and North Carolina are likely dead.

 

[cuseguy]

I've been to the BET when we've played UConn and we had more fans there in 09, 11 and 12. The streets and bars before all those games were filled with Syracuse fans. That's likely because Syracuse fans largely live in the City whereas UConn fans largely had to come in on Metro North. If we had done our job and beat Dayton we would have owned MSG and our fans would have outnumbered theirs by far. UConn is a huge get. It makes sense now that football is shored up to go after a flagship state university that will bring in cable boxes. I do fear that the ACC will miss the boat on UConn, but I don't think UConn being in the B1G hurts us. Syracuse/UNC/Louisville/Duke/ND/Virginia in an ACC Tournament would be bigger draws than Michigan/UConn/MSU/Indiana. Rutgers doesn't count. They never brought anyone to the BET. I don't see why they would start bringing people to a B1g tournament in MSG.

I could never find a parking space at the train station in New Haven when UConn and SU were both playing in the BET. No doubt they were the major draws.

 

[SmilinBob]

And if they take UConn, then their dreams of Virginia and North Carolina are likely dead.

Why? It's the next logical move unless they go out west to Kansas or the like. There is nothing left east for them otherwise unless they make a move for Vanderbilt.

 

[Noexcuse]

UConn and Kansas would be a major move by the Big 10. Granted (pun intended) KU may not be able to leave but these two schools would immediately put the Big 10 as #1 in hoops and be the perfect patsies for OSU and Michigan in football. A strong OSU and UM in football would give them all that they need to pump up their win total.

Kansas leaving the Big 12 maybe opens the door for Texas to leave as well. To the ACC.

 

[cuseguy]

Yeah that B10 invite has done wonders for Rutgers and there recruiting, ditto for Maryland. Both of there premier programs RU football, Maryland bball are complete train wrecks right now and neither can get out of its own way. Even when UConn was on par with BC and Syracuse where they ever out recruiting Syracuse? Even the Grob years we had higher rated classes, we just had an incompetent staff. Not to repeat myself but if you want to be in a conference with Uconn you have to joing the AAC, despite this thread there not in the B10. Give the ACC sometime, we didnt play VA tech, Miami, or Lville. It wont take long for old passions to come back once we start playing those guys again. ACC is where we belong, Syracuse has no business playing Purdue, Illinois, Iowa, etc.

Oh, I agree. The Western half of the B1G does nothing for me. But I'd like to play Penn State and Maryland more often. It also saddens me that top program in NY state no longer plays the top program in New Jersey. Just absurd.

We'll see whether the B1G helps Rutgers and Maryland football recruiting. Too early to judge.

I'll go to my grave, though, as a supporter of regional rivalries.

 

[NKR1978]

Why? It's the next logical move unless they go out west to Kansas or the like. There is nothing left east for them otherwise unless they make a move for Vanderbilt.

They're not going to stop at 15 and UVA and UNC aren't going anywhere in the next 30 days and probably not until 2028 or 29. So, who is #16?

 

[Toga]

Get real. There is no way they take UConn over Oklahoma.

 

[MaxwellCuse]

They're not going to stop at 15 and UVA and UNC aren't going anywhere in the next 30 days and probably not until 2028 or 29. So, who is #16?

Oklahoma, of course.

 

[TexanMark]

If you take a hard look at Rutgers...their recruiting lately has been a disaster. They had a decent thing going but the last 4-5 years have been vastly overrated.

 

[SmilinBob]

They're not going to stop at 15 and UVA and UNC aren't going anywhere in the next 30 days and probably not until 2028 or 29. So, who is #16?

If it were me running the Big 10? NCS, Wake or VT if I'm going east. Kansas would be my #1 west and fits the Big 10 academically. OU is funky and Texas is too head $trong. Texas would imo go for a ND deal with the ACC if they were ever to jump.

 

[JeremyCuse]

Oh, I agree. The Western half of the B1G does nothing for me. But I'd like to play Penn State and Maryland more often. It also saddens me that top program in NY state no longer plays the top program in New Jersey. Just absurd.

We'll see whether the B1G helps Rutgers and Maryland football recruiting. Too early to judge.

I'll go to my grave, though, as a supporter of regional rivalries.

Thats where OOC regional games come into play. Syracuse has agreements with Penn State, Maryland and we could easily get one with Uconn or RU if we wanted. Personally I will take conference stability and the seat at the power 5 over regional rivalries 7 days a week and twice on Sunday. If the cost of Syracuse remaining relavent at the highest levels of Div 1 sports is losing some regional rivalries then so be it, its worth it.

 

[jr4750]

If you take a hard look at Rutgers...their recruiting lately has been a disaster. They had a decent thing going but the last 4-5 years have been vastly overrated.

Agreed Mark. I actually was looking at their commit list yesterday, and while they have a bunch of 3 stars, most of those guys have no other real BCS offers. Someone is pumping their ratings up...

 

[NKR1978]

If it were me running the Big 10? NCS, Wake or VT if I'm going east. Kansas would be my #1 west and fits the Big 10 academically. OU is funky and Texas is too head $trong. Texas would imo go for a ND deal with the ACC if they were ever to jump.

None of those schools are going to leave the ACC for the B1G. NC State and VT maybe for the SEC when things looked like they were falling apart. They're also tied to their big brothers. Wake doesn't fit the B1G profile at all.

 

[cuseguy]

Thats where OOC regional games come into play. Syracuse has agreements with Penn State, Maryland and we could easily get one with Uconn or RU if we wanted. Personally I will take conference stability and the seat at the power 5 over regional rivalries 7 days a week and twice on Sunday. If the cost of Syracuse remaining relavent at the highest levels of Div 1 sports is losing some regional rivalries then so be it, its worth it.

We're in agreement there.

We're fine in the ACC.

I'm just not happy with the conference makeup. The ACC is sorely in need of another northeast school. Even Maryland would have filled that need. My head explodes if UConn joins the B1G.

 

[SmilinBob]

None of those schools are going to leave the ACC for the B1G. NC State and VT maybe for the SEC when things looked like they were falling apart. They're also tied to their big brothers. Wake doesn't fit the B1G profile at all.

Wake doesn't true but getting into the NC market might be worth it for them. NCS has little brother syndrome and I agree the SEC would be best for them if they were to leave this move would differentiate them from the other NC schools and get a whole new recruiting dynamic. As for VT...they do fit. Agree again about the SEC being a way better fit but you have to look for weak links and the perception is that the Big 10 is really good at football especially if you're looking at the TV$.

 

[tep624]

Well, if true, that didn't take long.

Not surprised, really.

The B1G has been beating the ACC to the punch every chance it gets.

This would lock up the NY market for the B1G.

You consider the ACC locking up Notre Dame and then the B1G countering with an indigent Maryland program and the trainwreck that is Rutgers as being beaten to the punch? What punch is that exactly?

 

[JeremyCuse]

We're in agreement there.

We're fine in the ACC.

I'm just not happy with the conference makeup. The ACC is sorely in need of another northeast school. Even Maryland would have filled that need. My head explodes if UConn joins the B1G.

Well Pitt and BC are NE schools and to be honest I like the fact that we have the ability to offer a recruit the ability to stay on the East Coast and play down south, play Miami, Play FSU, or if its bball play Duke, UNC, Pitino etc. Maybe its just me but I like the fact Uconn and RU have to sell recruits on either playing in the MAC or Des Moines Iowa while my team can sell South Beach and the ACC.