Smoke or BS in CT (B1G)?

[IthacaMatt]

ACC will go to a 9 game conf schedule in a few years which will cut down on that timeframe.

Not so long as ND is playing them a handful of games per year. There isn't room on the schedule.

 

[SmilinBob]

I don't think the ACC will add any more teams unless a college football playoff forces ND to join as a full member. Then there is one last spot on the ark to pair with the Irish.

Here's where the Big 10 would agree to keep ND as an indy...the playoff. They stay out of the ACC and will play more Big 10 teams. IMO, they will never force ND's hand now.

 

[CarolinaCuse]

IMO - UConn to the B1G makes sense in much the same way that Rutgers and Maryland does. In the absence of the B1G moving south (where population is growing), the NE is their best option thanks to TV sets and alumni bases. Why not add Rutgers, Maryland, and UConn? None of them will threaten the football hierarchy plus, the alumni (for the football dynasty schools) in NE, NYC, and DC/Metro get a local homecoming game each year. Bball doesn't move the dial as much but the B1G could certainly promote the hell out of adding UConn's hoops programs.

 

[IthacaMatt]

Get real. There is no way they take UConn over Oklahoma.

I think Oklahoma to the Big 10 is a great move, along with UConn. You revitalize a great rivalry in Nebraska v. Oklahoma and you deal a serious blow to the Big 12. UConn, of course, makes sense to shore up the Big 10's basketball profile, and provides Rutgers with a rival for last place.

 

[IthacaMatt]

I agree...Cincy or UConn are the most likely

UCF, Temple and Nova are long shots

If the ACC were able to add ND because of the playoff system going to 8 teams and cutting out non-P5 members, my first call would be to Penn State. Imagine if the ACC added both of those schools as football members. My second call would be to West Virginia.

Wouldn't this be the best football conference of all?

Notre Dame
Penn State
Pitt
Syracuse
Boston College
Florida State
Miami
Virginia Tech
Clemson
Georgia Tech
Louisville

 

[NKR1978]

No disrespect intended with this, but what value does UConn really bring to the ACC? The conference has enough basketball teams that are top caliber already. UConn doesn't have any football value. It's not like the ACC needs cable TV boxes in Connecticut. I would wager that the ACC games are already the top rated games in that state and in NYC. They don't expand the footprint.

If we are to get an ACC network, the only places we would get guaranteed non sports tier coverage would be North Carolina, Virginia, South Carolina, most of Florida, Western PA, CNY, maybe Boston and Louisville metro. UConn adds Connecticut and helps to shore up NYC/Westchester/LI with us and Notre Dame. They would more than pay for themselves.

 

[Madbiker]

Just more nonsense. Wouldn't surprise me if UConn eventually gets to the B1G ...but not for several more years. B1G needs to integrate Rutgers and Maryland. IMO their next expansion won't be until the Big 12 GOR expires and they can grab either KU or Oklahoma to partner up with UConn. That's probably 4-5 years from now. UConn doesn't move any needles and isn't a big enough fish (think market, think football) to make an immediate move on them. The B1G could care less about basketball, it doesn't drive any decision. This is just more of UConn (and CT media people) believing they are the center of the universe.

 

[SmilinBob]

Texas is the key to this war. If the ACC were ever to land them they'd have the most fertile recruiting area in the whole country. Let the Big 10 have UConn and even OU if it came to that. This is where I feel Swofford should invest his time.

 

[SU2NASA]

B1G football between 2013 and 2015 would add UConn, Rutgers, Maryland, and Kansas?

Geez, talk about diluting a product.

And I'm still hearing adding Oklahoma is imminent.

 

[SmilinBob]

B1G football between 2013 and 2015 would add UConn, Rutgers, Maryland, and Kansas?

Geez, talk about diluting a product.

And I'm still hearing adding Oklahoma is imminent.

They'd have more money then Davy Crockett if that happened.

 

[cuseguy]

No disrespect intended with this, but what value does UConn really bring to the ACC? The conference has enough basketball teams that are top caliber already. UConn doesn't have any football value. It's not like the ACC needs cable TV boxes in Connecticut. I would wager that the ACC games are already the top rated games in that state and in NYC. They don't expand the footprint.

No one cares about the ACC in Connecticut except myself and a handful of other people. Tough even getting many of the SU games on TV.

 

[Madbiker]

If we are to get an ACC network, the only places we would get guaranteed non sports tier coverage would be North Carolina, Virginia, South Carolina, most of Florida, Western PA, CNY, maybe Boston and Louisville metro. UConn adds Connecticut and helps to shore up NYC/Westchester/LI with us and Notre Dame. They would more than pay for themselves.

The whole UConn NY media market appeal is so over-rated. Their appeal is in CT and Fairfield County ( which has about 20% of the state's population is in the NY ADI. IMO there is almost no interest in UConn in the 5 boroughs and LI. Hardly any of the school's enrollment comes from those areas. Unlike SU where 50% of the enrollment comes from NYC and the surrounding burbs. When UConn sells out MSG it's because upper CT residents take the train into NYC. When SU sells out MSG it's mostly because alumni residing in NYC and the surrounding burbs show up to see SU teams.

 

[SmilinBob]

The whole UConn NY media market appeal is so over-rated. Their appeal is in CT and Fairfield County ( which has about 20% of the state's population is in the NY ADI. IMO there is almost no interest in UConn in the 5 boroughs and LI. Hardly any of the school's enrollment comes from those areas. Unlike SU where 50% of the enrollment comes from NYC and the surrounding burbs. When UConn sells out MSG it's because upper CT residents take the train into NYC. When SU sells out MSG it's mostly because alumni residing in NYC and the surrounding burbs show up to see SU teams.

That's why I'd like to beat the Big 10 to Texas. Let Delaney think he'll own the northeast and TV market because owning NYC will never happen for him or anyone college wise.

 

[NKR1978]

The whole UConn NY media market appeal is so over-rated. Their appeal is in CT and Fairfield County ( which has about 20% of the state's population is in the NY ADI. IMO there is almost no interest in UConn in the 5 boroughs and LI. Hardly any of the school's enrollment comes from those areas. Unlike SU where 50% of the enrollment comes from NYC and the surrounding burbs. When UConn sells out MSG it's because upper CT residents take the train into NYC. When SU sells out MSG it's mostly because alumni residing in NYC and the surrounding burbs show up to see SU teams.

I'm not talking about their "appeal." I'm talking about the fact that an ACC network would get high carriage fees in the State of Connecticut and parts of NYS (thanks to Syracuse and Notre Dame in conjunction with UConn) due to UConn's membership in the ACC.

 

[Bayside44]

I'm not talking about their "appeal." I'm talking about the fact that an ACC network would get high carriage fees in the State of Connecticut and parts of NYS (thanks to Syracuse and Notre Dame in conjunction with UConn) due to UConn's membership in the ACC.

You're talking about a "fact" about something that doesn't exist.

 

[Alsacs]

UConn is NOT GETTING an invite into the B1G. I am not going to read this entire thread because its pointless. The B1G just got the BTN on Cablevision and TWC in NYC WITHOUT needing UConn. Awful announcing just came out with this article
http://awfulannouncing.com/2014/big...ars&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

BTN will be generating about 48 million dollars a year off the NYC markeyt and that is without UConn. Why is the B1G going to add UConn and have another mouth to feed when the state of CT at 1.00 per cable subscriber won't generate the money for the BTN to justify adding UConn. This is just crap by UConn fans clinging to blind hope which is all they have.

 

[Alsacs]

UConn and Kansas would be a major move by the Big 10. Granted (pun intended) KU may not be able to leave but these two schools would immediately put the Big 10 as #1 in hoops and be the perfect patsies for OSU and Michigan in football. A strong OSU and UM in football would give them all that they need to pump up their win total.

Kansas has the Big XII GOR issue. Why would the B1G add Kansas/UConn if more valuable pieces from the Big XII were available in Oklahoma/Texas.

This is all blind hope by UConn fans.

 

[javadoc]

Some random comments:
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Please, let's not talk about PSU being "poached". Not interested in sharing a roof with pariahs.

 

[CousCuse]

Temple is fool's gold. They need a stadium and 25k consistent fans first.

The lack of a major football conference in the Northeast for the last 50 years killed a lot of teams, like Temple. If they had been in an eastern conference all that time , they would be the NE equivalent of Georgia Tech. If it was worth it to the B1G to take Rutgers for media purposes , it would seem a team in Philly , smack in the middle of the Megaplex would merit as much consideration from the ACC , which has a huge hole there at this time.

 

[Alsacs]

Some random comments:

1) UConn does not move anyone's interest meter right now. Weak football, hoops not relevant enough (not enough $$)
2) The B1G will sign a new TV deal which will better signify where the conferences stand. IF they make mondo $$$, PSU is solidified in the midwestern league. If not so, the ACC will catch up in $$$ over the current deal with look-ins and a network deal, PSU could be poached.
3) PSU has never really considered Maryland a rival and Rutgers was a merely a tune up game. No changes there, just two annual patsies and neither will draw media attention in NYC or throughout the northeast.
4) PSU has a history with Pitt and Syracuse. No one in the B1G can match either and no school in the B1G cares to really develop a hatred of PSU.
5) OU is still the best bet for B1G and the BTN. They move the needle in the middle states as well as across the nation. Academically, they are tied with UNL, if the B1G can accept UNL, they can surely take OU. Any discussion of UConn being invited must be qualified with OU.
6) Kansas would be a boon for the B1G and the BTN, as much or more so than UConn.
7) Only Texas and Oklahoma have the cache (and cash) to leave the Big 12 before their current deal is done/nearly done. Kansas is a one trick pony (hoops) and no one else in the Big 12 is regionally, let alone nationally, relevant. If either leaves, then the whole Big 12 is probably done for, if both leave, there is no more Big 12, like there is no more Big East, the name might survive but the luster will be forever gone.
8) Nothing happens until the ACC decides whether to allow conference to determine their own champions or not. No need to change immediately and this questions will get resolved soon.

Edit:
9) Rutgers offers nothing of value to anyone. So long as B1G football and hoops are not relevant in national titles, there will only be mild interest in the B1G fan bases already in NYC. Joe Sixpack CFB fan will not watch Rutgers v. Iowa or Indiana and get excited.

Rutgers paid for themselves(about 48 million per year). The BTN is going to be raking in a lot of money from NYC Cablevision/Time Warner Customers. That news should be a shot in the heart to UConn because the B1G was able to get on the NYC cable companies without needing UConn to help.

 

[MSOrange]

UConn is NOT GETTING an invite into the B1G. I am not going to read this entire thread because its pointless. The B1G just got the BTN on Cablevision and TWC in NYC WITHOUT needing UConn. Awful announcing just came out with this article
http://awfulannouncing.com/2014/big...ars&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

BTN will be generating about 48 million dollars a year off the NYC markeyt and that is without UConn. Why is the B1G going to add UConn and have another mouth to feed when the state of CT at 1.00 per cable subscriber won't generate the money for the BTN to justify adding UConn. This is just crap by UConn fans clinging to blind hope which is all they have.

Where were you a couple hours ago?

 

[TexanMark]

Temple is a huge risk until they prove they have a fanbase.

 

[TexanMark]

Alsacs we sure they are getting $1.00 a subscriber a month?

 

[Alsacs]

Alsacs we sure they are getting $1.00 a subscriber a month?

I am not sure, but the point is without NEEDING UConn the B1G/BTN was able to make deals with Cablevision and Time Warner the two biggest cable providers in NYC/NJ so why would the B1G want to add UConn and dilute its football even more and not need them to get on the basic tier in NYC? The only hope UConn had was that the cable providers in NYC would play hardball with the BTN and that the B1G would need another local team i.e. UConn to get the BTN on in NYC.

Now that the 2nd biggest providers have agreed the rest should be a lot easier and UConn MAKES NO SENSE. They don't improve the B1G's football image and they don't add any more new markets other than CT which isn't going to add enough money to justify adding them.

 

[Alsacs]

The B1G isn't adding another school until either Oklahoma/Texas become available. The B1G needs football brands now they got their money with Rutgers/Maryland NOW they need FB brands. As the B1G football reputation has been taken hits each and every year recently with the SEC superiority.

UConn isn't a primary target right now when the Fox bought YES it was getting BTN on the local NYC cable tier, and now that it has happened so early UConn makes no sense. Connecticut the state has 3.6 million residents how would the BTN/B1G make the 40 million a year by adding UConn to justify their inclusion? If NYC wasn't cooperating you could make that argument, but NYC is cooperating thus UConn makes no sense.