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So UF will be in the market

orange79 said:
That's just ludicrous.
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Agree. Not sure why they feel he would be the definitive answer at the college level. He might be, but I wouldn't put that much money on it.
 
DeGrozz said:
Gruden makes nearly that now, with little to no stress as an announcer, I thought. Why go back to coaching, he's got one of the sweetest gigs in America.
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ESPN is cutting back spending his next contract will not be as rich as this current one.
Gruden is the highest paid person at ESPN.
 
Alsacs said:
He only takes a lesser buyout if his lawyer tells him he won’t get all the buyout he would get.

Florida is bluffing right now seeing if McElwain will cave. It will depend on his lawyer if he takes less than he should.
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Wouldn't it actual depend if UF has some basis to fire him for cause? Doesn't actual depend on the facts and the terms of his contract?
 
GoSU96 said:
Wouldn't it actual depend if UF has some basis to fire him for cause? Doesn't actual depend on the facts and the terms of his contract?
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If they could fire for cause they wouldn’t even offer a lesser buyout.

The report is they offering him less.

Florida is bluffing right now.
 
Alsacs said:
If they could fire for cause they wouldn’t even offer a lesser buyout.

The report is they offering him less.

Florida is bluffing right now.
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I didn't imply it was black and white. That's where the negotiation comes in. If he has clean hands then obviously he should insist on his deal.
 
MSOrange said:
Agree. Not sure why they feel he would be the definitive answer at the college level. He might be, but I wouldn't put that much money on it.
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Per their board, Gruden has long been a guy they wanted going back a ways. Not sure why. The guy has been in a booth for a while now..
 
Alsacs said:
ESPN is cutting back spending his next contract will not be as rich as this current one.
Gruden is the highest paid person at ESPN.
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That's true -- but I think he is signed for the foreseeable future with ESPN. Plus he goes hand-in-hand with their most important asset (the NFL and MNF). ESPN's struggles were well known when he turned down other jobs this offseason, if his agent had any business acumen, this cost cutting must have been foreseen.

It just seems strange. Why would he turn down a chance to coach a young, talented LA Rams, or Andrew Luck in his prime, only to take over one of the most dysfunctional college football teams out there less than a year later? If he's doing that, you'd have to imagine he has terrible buyer's remorse.

It's just a change that I couldn't see anyone who's seemingly loving life making, but I guess only Chucky knows for sure.
 
DeGrozz said:
That's true -- but I think he is signed for the foreseeable future with ESPN. Plus he goes hand-in-hand with their most important asset (the NFL and MNF). ESPN's struggles were well known when he turned down other jobs this offseason, if his agent had any business acumen, this cost cutting must have been foreseen.

It just seems strange. Why would he turn down a chance to coach a young, talented LA Rams, or Andrew Luck in his prime, only to take over one of the most dysfunctional college football teams out there less than a year later? If he's doing that, you'd have to imagine he has terrible buyer's remorse.

It's just a change that I couldn't see anyone who's seemingly loving life making, but I guess only Chucky knows for sure.
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Well he did get his first shot in coaching as a GA back in 86-87 with Tenn.. so maybe 10 million plus a little sentimental value?
 
What's the appeal of Gruden? LOL if UTenn actually offered him $10m/year. He's an NFL guy with very little CFB experience. Why would you offer someone Nick Saban money with 0 proof that they can win on the collegiate level. He's a big TV personality with a .500 record as an NFL HC. I think this would be a disaster for UT if this actually comes to fruition, so fingers crossed that they are actually this stupid.
 
IthacaMatt said:
This is one thing in our favor, IMO. Dino is at the right age, where he builds this up, and can ride this as his last job before retirement. He appreciates the school's legacy, and he recognizes the Dome as a unique advantage for his style of play. We are also going to be far more patient with him than any of the traditional elite powers will be.
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Geeez, right on point and TY. at 57, hopefully, Dino is at his final destination in terms of program, family and school, facilities, geography, and subjective fit. I really BELIEVE that and hope:)
 
Florida fan I talked with thinks the Gators will end up with Charlie Strong.

As any top tier candidates will stay away after this weak sauce dismissal of McElwain.
 
What a joke... absolutely ridiculous that he's asked to pack up and go... 4-8 / 7-5 two years prior to arrival... 9-4 / 10-4 first two years...

struggle bus a touch this year, losing to LSU by 1 and A&M by 2... Then Georgia, Georgia's going to smoke just about everyone they'll play save Alabama. Their defense is stupid good.

Be careful what you wish for UF, because this type of intolerance is exactly what takes the luster off of destination type jobs.

Guaranteed they've already put themselves in a position where they'll either miss on some of their top choices or will have to over-pay. Good coaches aren't dumb.
 
DMDMD said:
I don't think Gruden has any interest in coaching ever again.

If my team needed a new coach after this year, I'd hire McElwain in a second.
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He recently said he did. Didn't say when. He lives in Florida.
 
Crusty said:
He recently said he did. Didn't say when. He lives in Florida.
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I suppose its possible, but the dude's been mentioned for just about every NFL coaching vacancy for the last 10 years and hasn't found one to bring him back.
 
Finwad32 said:
What a joke... absolutely ridiculous that he's asked to pack up and go... 4-8 / 7-5 two years prior to arrival... 9-4 / 10-4 first two years...

struggle bus a touch this year, losing to LSU by 1 and A&M by 2... Then Georgia, Georgia's going to smoke just about everyone they'll play save Alabama. Their defense is stupid good.

Be careful what you wish for UF, because this type of intolerance is exactly what takes the luster off of destination type jobs.

Guaranteed they've already put themselves in a position where they'll either miss on some of their top choices or will have to over-pay. Good coaches aren't dumb.
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This firing is all about UF's offense. Period. End of story. They were winning their fair share of games (2 straight East Division titles), but winning at home 9-7 over Vandy or 20-14 over FAU in OT was not quieting the over-zealous alumni base.

All this said, McElwaine is a quality coach who was undercut by QB injuries/drama ( lost starting frosh QB via a steroid charge iirc) and the toxic undercurrent of the underclassmen (now upper) that he inherited from Muschamp. He never got enough of his own kids into leadership positions to change the culture.

Did he make mistakes? Yes. Many. But every one of these guys do, our guy included, because they make dozens of decisions daily.

I'd hope if SU is in a position to hire in the coming years that we'd consider a coach of his ilk. But here's hoping Dino digs in for the long haul!
 
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