SU NIL Budget

[HyattsCuse]

Kelvin Sampson bemoans Houston NIL budget: 'We're poor'

Houston coach Kelvin Sampson said his top-10 team can't sign more recruits because the school's athletic department is "very poor."

www.espn.com

Interesting comments from Sampson … especially considering what that program has been the past decade.

Yeah, my first reaction was “cry me a river”, but I guess we’ll see in the upcoming years if these public comments help increase NIL funding for Houston or, if Houston is poor and declines, he can say he put out this warning.

 

[Blanko97]

I’ve been ringing this bell for a year now, there is no freaking way this NIL money keeps coming in. People aren’t going to pay a million dollars or more every year when they get no direct return out of it. I understand there is some emotional value but those who can afford to spend without a direct ROI will be very few and cannot possibly support 64 P5 level programs

 

[FrancoPizza]

I’ve been ringing this bell for a year now, there is no freaking way this NIL money keeps coming in. People aren’t going to pay a million dollars or more every year when they get no direct return out of it. I understand there is some emotional value but those who can afford to spend without a direct ROI will be very few and cannot possibly support 64 P5 level programs

Anyone who donated presumably had enough confidence in red. A new coach with a proven resume and pizazz will generate new interest and resurrect some donors.

 

[Orangezoo]

I’ve been ringing this bell for a year now, there is no freaking way this NIL money keeps coming in. People aren’t going to pay a million dollars or more every year when they get no direct return out of it. I understand there is some emotional value but those who can afford to spend without a direct ROI will be very few and cannot possibly support 64 P5 level programs

The more successful your football program and connections to larger private capital or even NBA connections the more sustainable keeping a constant flow of funding.

Otherwise programs will have to live with a much more volatility year over year along with accepting a lower floor for expectations and a much more difficult task to raise their ceiling.

 

[Cusefan0307]

I’ve been ringing this bell for a year now, there is no freaking way this NIL money keeps coming in. People aren’t going to pay a million dollars or more every year when they get no direct return out of it. I understand there is some emotional value but those who can afford to spend without a direct ROI will be very few and cannot possibly support 64 P5 level programs

I actually think this is why ADJW is on the right path trying to find corporate money. Individual boosters are fickle and guaranteed to bounce at the smallest sign of a losing ROI.

 

[MSOrange]

I’ve been ringing this bell for a year now, there is no freaking way this NIL money keeps coming in. People aren’t going to pay a million dollars or more every year when they get no direct return out of it. I understand there is some emotional value but those who can afford to spend without a direct ROI will be very few and cannot possibly support 64 P5 level programs

Agree. Even as very small time donor to Orange United for a few seasons, I couldn't help but occasionally think "What am I doing here?"

 

[rrlbees]

Anyone who donated presumably had enough confidence in red. A new coach with a proven resume and pizazz will generate new interest and resurrect some donors.

not necessarily. a lot of people donate to the program.

 

[sufan59]

I’ve been ringing this bell for a year now, there is no freaking way this NIL money keeps coming in. People aren’t going to pay a million dollars or more every year when they get no direct return out of it. I understand there is some emotional value but those who can afford to spend without a direct ROI will be very few and cannot possibly support 64 P5 level programs

Btw in basketball this should benefit Syracuse the more revenue generation of a program matters in the ability to pay players.

 

[STEVEHOLT]

Yeah, my first reaction was “cry me a river”, but I guess we’ll see in the upcoming years if these public comments help increase NIL funding for Houston or, if Houston is poor and declines, he can say he put out this warning.

Is the number listed “poor”? (78 million) Where is SU by comparison?

 

[althea]

Is the number listed “poor”? (78 million) Where is SU by comparison?

I couldn’t find Syracuse listed in the database they used (USA Today).

In this database Syracuse is 59th - and going in the wrong direction

CNBC's Official College Sports Valuations 2025: Top 75 athletic programs

The programs are worth a combined $51.22 billion, 13% more than the top 75 in last year's rankings.

www.cnbc.com

 

[rrlbees]

I couldn’t find Syracuse listed in the database they used (USA Today).

In this database Syracuse is 59th - and going in the wrong direction

CNBC's Official College Sports Valuations 2025: Top 75 athletic programs

The programs are worth a combined $51.22 billion, 13% more than the top 75 in last year's rankings.

www.cnbc.com

thats not nil. thats an estimated value based on revenue. interesting that su maintains that database.

 

[althea]

thats not nil. thats an estimated value based on revenue. interesting that su maintains that database.

I know - but Sampson was using the total revenue number in the article for some reason

 

[Cusefan0307]

Is any coach going to say they have enough money?

 

[CardiacCuse]

i wish all the NIL totals were public information so we could really judge performance

 

[CU44SE]

Yes, paying and footing the bill for a billion dollar industry.

 

[NineOneSeven]

Entire thing is a s**tshow. As an avid sports fan and diehard Syracuse fan, priorities in this country are so backwards.

Nait George got paid over a million dollars? Really? Criminal. I’ll never forget the BC game. I’ve never seen a worse performance by a point guard.

 

[rrlbees]

Entire thing is a s**tshow. As an avid sports fan and diehard Syracuse fan, priorities in this country are so backwards.

Nait George got paid over a million dollars? Really? Criminal. I’ll never forget the BC game. I’ve never seen a worse performance by a point guard.

that was based on what he was and projected to what he could be. not what he is currently.

led acc in assists
honorable mention all acc
4th in most improved voting

 

[NineOneSeven]

that was based on what he was and projected to what he could be. not what he is currently.

led acc in assists
honorable mention all acc
4th in most improved voting

Definitely some hindsight at play here. But that’s kinda the point too. Why are people going to donate (generally speaking across college sports) when it looks like the player just landed on earth some games and is making 10x that person’s salary to play for a losing team?

 

[JarHeadJim]

I like the talent on this team. The coaching is failing them.

 

[elimunelson]

Is any coach going to say they have enough money?

Is there a current top 25 poll and their NIL spend anywhere? I want to know how correlated it is currently .

 

[Cstate]

AW just posted this an hour ago, he knows how to troll us! Miss the days the dome was packed like that……..

 

[Blanko97]

AW just posted this an hour ago, he knows how to troll us! Miss the days the dome was packed like that……..

I don’t feel trolled, he didn’t do anything trolly? It’s not like he was saying “boy the orange sure are doing great this year without the pesky billionaire” and then posting that picture. I am an AW hater but I think he’s being genuine here

 

[Bayside44]

AW just posted this an hour ago, he knows how to troll us! Miss the days the dome was packed like that……..

Dasher's good work exposed that AW was a low 6 figure donor to actual athletics. AW thought paying Tom Brady was a donation. And he probably believes it. Hence the disconnect.

 

[elimunelson]

The revenue difference between UConn and Syracuse is due to the ACC conference revenues. There is no excuse for Syracuse not fielding a competitive basketball program year in and year out.

We have a terrible hiring record now. It’s not revenue it’s talented coaching. If you have a coach who is incompetent you will have bad results.

If Pitino was the HC this year we’d be on the bubble

 

[MadNY3]

We have a terrible hiring record now. It’s not revenue it’s talented coaching. If you have a coach who is incompetent you will have bad results.

If Pitino was the HC this year we’d be on the bubble

The assistant behind a legendary coach who touched six decades of coaching didn’t work out.

That’s not a terrible hiring record. It’s just one bad choice under very understandable circumstances.

But no one cares. Just win in 2026-27, baby.