Syracuse football defensive tackle Steven Clark's career put in jeopardy by blood clots

[SmilinBob]

First off...I want the best for Steven. Second, SU is and has always been a cya school so I highly doubt that he'll ever play for SU again as there are just way too many hurdles and walls and losing money in a lawsuit is usually their #1 concern.

 

[007]

So CuseLegacy posted in another thread a story about a family suing an athletic conference I believe for neglect as their son killed himself as a result of over 100 concussions (at least that is their assertion). IIRC, it mentioned that it was being lumped into a class action suit and the family was not happy about that. In that article, it mentioned that in very few cases is the school actually sued individually and then listed the ten or so schools that had active suits against them. About four were ACC schools including Syracuse. This may be cause for the wanton DQ-ing. The med staff has had a reflex reaction. For as long as they are a part of the process, they will not likely change that behavior. Once bitten twice shy.

Great point, NJCuse97

My question is whether the medical staff, and Dr. Tucker in particular, has unilateral decision making power in this process. The ultra conservatism philosophy is presumably to mitigate risk to the university, under the guise of "protecting" the athlete.

That philosophy has to flow from higher up than the medical staff, doesn't it?

 

[bcubs9497]

Great point, NJCuse97

My question is whether the medical staff, and Dr. Tucker in particular, has unilateral decision making power in this process. The ultra conservatism philosophy is presumably to mitigate risk to the university, under the guise of "protecting" the athlete.

That philosophy has to flow from higher up than the medical staff, doesn't it?

Tucker is THE final word concerning medical DQs. Period. Per NCAA.

 

[bigmike]

Retire and replace?

 

[007]

Tucker is THE final word concerning medical DQs. Period. Per NCAA.

That's depressing. I'm amazed he can act independently from the Chancellor and the Board of Trustees. Since that's the case, my feeling is he should be an employee of, and/or trained and certified by the NCAA. Someone must be responsible for the oversight and review of his decisions.

 

[RF2044]

That's depressing. I'm amazed he can act independently from the Chancellor and the Board of Trustees. Since that's the case, my feeling is he should be an employee of, and/or trained and certified by the NCAA. Someone must be responsible for the oversight and review of his decisions.

That separation of powers actually make sense to me, given the stakes around player Health. But it does seem like we've had an awfully High number of DQ's, so I have no problem with the process being evaluated.

 

[007]

That separation of powers actually make sense to me, given the stakes around player Health. But it does seem like we've had an awfully High number of DQ's, so I have no problem with the process being evaluated.

Are you referring to the separation of power between the physician and the university, or the physician and the NCAA?

 

[CuseLegacy]

Physician and university. The NCAA doesn't want coaches or administrators trying to influence the doctors decision. However not having an appeal process for the athlete is ridiculous especially when the specialist involved is recommended by the physician.

 

[007]

Physician and university. The NCAA doesn't want coaches or administrators trying to influence the doctors decision. However not having an appeal process for the athlete is ridiculous especially when the specialist involved is recommended by the physician.

Thanks. You and bcubs and others were right and I stand corrected. The NCAA requires schools to give full autonomy to a designated member of the school's medical staff...and this person does not even have to a physician! I guess that shouldn't surprise me.

 

[RandomGuy]

Is this statement correct?

The ncaa will support a med dq of a player at 1 school, yet support the same player not being dq'd at another?

If so... With no appeal process, it's designed to give the school higher ups arbitrary control of the player, that may/may not have anything to do with the players well being... Sheesh.

 

[bcubs9497]

Is this statement correct?

The ncaa will support a med dq of a player at 1 school, yet support the same player not being dq'd at another?

If so... With no appeal process, it's designed to give the school higher ups arbitrary control of the player, that may/may not have anything to do with the players well being... Sheesh.

Yes. As a matter of fact...

 

[JSOrange97]

Yes. As a matter of fact...

Yes? Where's he going??

 

[bcubs9497]

Cleared by hematologist from the University of Rochester.

 

[Trueblue25]

Cleared by hematologist from the University of Rochester.

Everything else aside, glad he continues to get positive feedback and results from clear professionals.

 

[bigmike]

My hopes are up that Steven will play again...

 

[OrangeXtreme]

 

[OrangeXtreme]

 

[SUFan44]

Unfortunately, I would put the odds at 100-1 that SU clears him.

...so you're saying there's a chance?

 

[Chris02M]

Cleared by hematologist from the University of Rochester.

any idea whats next?

 

[Alsacs]

Such a joke this affair has been.

I get the kid's health is paramount and most important. This just oozes Tucker has ridiculous standards and the longer he remains in charge we have a ridiculous CYA doctor in charge.
Keep cashing those checks Dr. Tucker.

 

[721Comstock]

Cleared by hematologist from the University of Rochester.

Hopefully this is sufficient CYA for Syracuse to reinstate him.
They can defer to an expert opinion, and if for some reason there's any future issue, they can put the "blame" on them, and not SU.

Good luck Steven & Bcubs and family!

 

[Cuse'91]

Such a joke this affair has been.

I get the kid's health is paramount and most important. This just oozes Tucker has ridiculous standards and the longer he remains in charge we have a ridiculous CYA doctor in charge.
Keep cashing those checks Dr. Tucker.

Honestly, this is becoming de rigueur; from medical dqs to misspelling the names of all time great players... Would be so great to have sharp/competent people in SU operations, oh well...

 

[Chris02M]

Cleared by hematologist from the University of Rochester.

hopefully your son and family can at least see dr tucker and figure out his major concerns other than saving his ass if something happens

 

[bcubs9497]

hopefully your son and family can at least see dr tucker and figure out his major concerns other than saving his ass if something happens

Who knows if that will happen? Steven's been trying to confab with him since last week.

 

[Alsacs]

Who knows if that will happen? Steven's been trying to confab with him since last week.

Who in the football department arranges the consultations with Tucker? I'm sure you already have tried this but if not I would contact that person to tell Tucker directly. This is ridiculous that he is avoiding a patient.