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nor should it...

It's funny, when we weren't investing in the program (no IPF, ty wight room, horrible facilities) everyone wanted a change. Everyone voiced how the University wasn't doing enough to support the coaches/program. Everyone wanted the University to INVEST in the program... Since then they have... It took time but change happened...

Why should this be any different... There is clearly an issue and the issue being we are not on par with our peers in our DQ/medical process... Dino talks all the time about leveling the playing field. IMO, this is not a "level playing field." This is something the admin needs to act on ASAP. I think they will...

bcubs9497 Steven is a great guy. Wish him nothing but the best. Actually went to a concert with him and a bunch of other players last year at CMAC. Glad you are vocalizing this. This is what it takes to inflict change.

Mods... if you don't think this belongs in this thread, do what you want with it...

Thank you for that awesome #1339 post of yours as well as this one.

In highlighting above, my reply would be why does it have to? Coming up with a better DQ plan or one more in line with our P5 brethren, wouldn't appear to be anywhere near the effort, or the financial investment necessary to implement such action or change. I guess it likely just comes down to urgency/significance and how the SU brass views this particular issue in the overall scope of the athletic department's fate.
 
Thank you for that awesome #1339 post of yours as well as this one.

In highlighting above, my reply would be why does it have to? Coming up with a better DQ plan or one more in line with our P5 brethren, wouldn't appear to be anywhere near the effort, or the financial investment necessary to implement such action or change. I guess it really comes down to urgency and how the SU brass views this particular issue in the overall scope of the athletic department's fate.

100% agree. Sorry, I should have been more clear. My point was in response to a poster who essentially said "just move on from the DQ issue." The point I wanted to make was that we didn't move on when we all wanted to see investment into the program from the administration, why should this be any different.

Yes it took time to get the investment implemented but it happened. With the minimal financial investment like you said, this is something that seems like a no brianer... I will say that, people need to keep in mind that technically, Syracuse University is a non profit and as such, these types of decisions have to go through channels... lots of them... and because of this it will take time even though it seems like a no brainer...

I hope I clarified what I meant?
 
This is something I usually only PM one poster here but I think it's important so against my better judgement, I'll put this here... I don't want to dive to far into what we talked about as 75% of our conversation was to remain confidential. So I just want to share with you a 30,000 foot view of the discussion.

Had dinner the other night with someone VERY close to this situation. This is first and info. What I can tell you is if you have not sent an email to the Chancellor, the BOT and the AD expressing your extreme concern over the lack of a DQ medical process on par with OTHER P5 schools, please do so... This is something that CANNOT take a back seat once camp starts, it must continue to be at the forefront... The administration does hear you and recognizes the situation... This is not falling on deaf ears, unfortunately, change takes time... But please continue to express your concern and ASK FOR ANSWERS as to WHY our process is not like other P5 schools.

While our coaches are happy in how we have supported them and the program through hiring, $$$ for recruiting and other resources our peers have (private jet service for one), they are REALLY frustrated with our lack of a medical DQ process. (I know that's nothing new)

Most importantly, I can tell you that John and Kent understand how much football "drives the bus." John absolutely LOVES Dino and knows he is the right guy (I think we all do). John has said to me "My #1 focus is fixing football. We absolutely have to. And we will." With that, he has said to me that he "will do absolutely everything in his power to keep Dino so that Dino retires as a Syracuse Orangeman" This was said to me in a very stern and I would say "promising" way. They get it.

One last tidbit regarding the Dome... Don't be surprised to see the 2019 lacrosse home schedule front loaded with home games... They want to get as much of the construction done from April to mid September as they can... There's a reason our first 2 games for football are away and September 14th is TBA...

I know I didn't share anything earth shattering but wanted to get my conversation on here and show a bit into John and Kent's thought process regarding football.
Is there anything more for us to do once we've sent our emails? How do we keep this from quietly fading away unresolved?
 
The U of Washington policy: http://static.gohuskies.com/old_site/pdf/genrel/medical_hardship_policy.pdf


Medical Disqualification – General Policy
Medical Hardship Policy
Page 4 of 6
_____________
It is the responsibility and duty of every individual involved in the medical disqualification
process to conduct themselves with the highest
level of ethics, integrity, objectivity and
professionalism. Unlike the medical hardship process, the medical disqualification process
does not involve the Pac-10 Conference. Rather, decisions regarding medical disqualifications
rest exclusively with ICA. Every medical disqual
ification case shall be scrutinized closely by all
parties involved. No medical disqualification may be approved unless and until it is verified that
the criteria set forth in Bylaw 15.5.1.3 have been met (see "Relevant NCAA Legislation" section
of this policy).
As with the medical hardship process, the role of the athletic trainers and physicians in the
medical disqualification process is limited to: (1) rendering a professional opinion as to whether
the student-athlete, as a result of an injury/illness, is permanently unable to participate in
intercollegiate athletics; and (2) providing copies
of relevant medical/training room records that
have been kept in the normal course of caring for the health of safety of UW student-athletes.
In this regard, it is important to note that no athletic trainer or team physician reports to the
coaching staff of the sport to which the athletic trainer or team physician may be assigned.
Athletic trainers and team physicians are ex
pected to exercise independent professional
judgment at all times. If an athletic trainer or team physician finds himself or herself in a position
of conflict with a coach or other ICA staff mem
ber, the athletic trainer or team physician should
bring the matter to the sport administrator or other appropriate ICA administrator immediately
without fear of retribution.
The medical disqualification process is not an alternative means for a student-athlete to quit the
team yet retain his or her athletics aid when he or she is capable of continuing to participate.
Nor is it an alternative means for a coach to “run off” a student-athlete by cutting the student-
athlete from the team and allowing the student-athlete to retain his or her athletics aid even
when the student-athlete is capable of participating. In order to be eligible for a medical
disqualification, the student-athlete's injury/illness must satisfy the criteria of Bylaw 15.5.1.3 and
permanently prevent the student-athlete from continuing to participate in intercollegiate athletics.
All ICA staff members and student-athletes are strictly prohibited from attempting to exert
pressure on an athletic trainer, other ICA staff member, team physician or student-athlete to
pursue or support a medical disqualification when one is not justified under NCAA rules.
A request for a medical disqualification can occur
at any time and may be initiated formally only
by a Head Coach, the Team Physician, the Head Physician or the Head Athletic Trainer.
As soon as it becomes apparent that a student-athlete may qualify for permanent injury status,
the Head Coach, athletic trainer and physician are required to inform the sport administrator
who oversees the student-athlete's sport. It is
critical that the sport administrator be involved
and consulted at the earliest possible time (i.e., immediately after the subject of a medical
disqualification first is raised). The sport administrator should be kept informed of all
developments related to the student-athlete’s case. In addition, it is critical that all ICA staff
members work together to ensure that the involved student-athlete understands that the medical
disqualification process can be lengthy and that
no medical disqualification will be approved
until the case has been thoroughly reviewed in accordance with the procedures below
. No one
other than the sport administrator shall make any statements to the student-athlete regarding
Medical Disqualification Procedures
Medical Hardship Policy
Page 5 of 6
_____________
the chances that the medical disqualification will be approved or whether the student-athlete will
continue receiving athletics aid.
If a Head Coach, Team Physician or the Head Athletic Trainer believes that a student-athlete
qualifies for a medical disqualification, the following steps must be taken:
1. Preliminary Discussion with Sport Administrator
. The Head Coach, the Team Physician
and/or the Head Athletic Trainer shall confer
with the sport administrator who oversees
the sport to discuss the student-athlete's case. The primary purpose of this discussion
will be to make an initial determination regarding whether a medical disqualification
appears to be justified. As appropriate and necessary, the Faculty Athletics
Representative (FAR), the Team Athletic Trainer and the Senior Associate Athletic
Director for Compliance may be invited to participate in this discussion as well.
2. Documentation
. If it appears that a medical disqualification may be justified, the Team
Physician shall prepare and sign a letter describing the onset of the injury/illness and the
treatment history. The letter shall contain a statement regarding whether, in the Team
Physician’s professional medical opinion, the injury/illness will prevent the student-
athlete from participating ever again in intercollegiate athletics. The Team Physician’s
letter shall attach copies of all of the relevant medical records and training room records
related to the student-athlete’s injury/illness.
3. Approval by Head Physician
. The Team Physician shall meet with Head Physician to
review all of the documentation, including the Team Physician’s letter. Thereafter, the
Head Physician will prepare a letter to the sport administrator indicating whether he/she
concurs or disagrees with the Team Physician's conclusions and whether, in his or her
professional opinion, the student-athlete qualifies for a medical disqualification (i.e., the
Head Physician is not required to summarize the facts of the case or summarize the
student-athlete's complete medical history.). The Head Physician’s letter shall enclose
copies of the Team Physician’s letter and the supporting medical documentation. The
Head Physician shall send copies of his/her
letter to the sport administrator, the FAR
and the Senior Associate Athletic Director for Compliance.
4. Approval by FAR, Sport Administrator and Sr. Assoc. AD for Compliance
. Upon receipt
of the medical documentation (including t
he letters from the Team Physician and Head
Physician), the sport administrator, the FAR and the Senior Associate AD for
Compliance shall determine whether the request for a medical disqualification shall be
approved. As they deem necessary and appr
opriate, the sport administrator, FAR and
Senior Associate AD for Compliance may interview the student-athlete or schedule
further meetings with any member of the training, medical or coaching staff about the
medical disqualification request. After a final decision is reached, the sport administrator
shall prepare a letter/memorandum containing the decision and provide it to the Head
Coach, the Team Physician, the Head Physician, the Head Athletic Trainer, the
compliance office and the student-athlete.
5. Conditions for Continued Receipt of Athletics Aid
. As a condition for receiving
athletically-related financial aid from
the athletics department while medically
disqualified, the student-athlete must abide by the Student-Athlete Code of Conduct. In
addition, the student-athlete shall be required to work in the athletics department each
quarter in exchange for the athletically-related financial aid. The required number of
work hours shall be based on the amount of financial aid provided by the athletics
Medical Hardship Policy
Page 6 of 6
_____________
department. If the student-athlete fails to fulfill his or her work responsibilities in a timely
manner, the athletics department may revoke the athletics aid immediately. In the
letter/memorandum approving the medical disqualification, the sport administrator shall
(i) inform the student-athlete of that he or she remains subject to the Student-Athlete
Code of Conduct; (ii) notify the student-athlete of the work requirement and the athletics
department’s right to revoke the aid if the work requirement is not satisfied; and (iii)
direct the student-athlete to contact the compliance office to obtain a work assignment.


Not what I would expect, it lacks an appeal or an outside opinion, but at least there are several parties involved in discussion and the final decision.
 
From another site: http://www.nata.org/sites/default/files/Conley.pdf

the document is 19 pages, here's the bottom line:

Determination of Clearance
Occasionally, an abnormality or condition is found that
may limit an athlete’s participation or predispose him or her
to further injury. In these cases, the team physician should
review the following questions as the athlete’s ability to
meet the criteria for participation is being determined
15
:
1. Does the condition pose an unacceptable risk or place the
athlete at increased risk for further injury?
2. Does the condition place other participants at risk for
injury?
3. Can the athlete safely participate with treatment (eg,
medication, rehabilitation, bracing, padding)?
4. Can limited participation be allowed while treatment is
being completed?
5. If clearance is denied for certain sports or sport categories
only, in which activities can the athlete safely participate?
A specific risk analysis to provide the physician with
guidance in answering these questions has not been
developed.
138
Furthermore, the specific threshold used in
the decision depends upon numerous factors, including the
specific sport, desires of the athlete and parent, and
available protective equipment.
Clearance to participate in a particular sport should be
based on previously published guidelines such as those of
the 36th Bethesda Conference and the American Heart
Association
43
and the American Academy of Pediatrics.
44
Participation recommendations are based on the specific
diagnosis, although multiple factors, including the sport
classification and the athlete’s specific health status, affect
the decision. Whether these clearance guidelines effectively
limit the participation of athletes at risk for further injury
without limiting the participation of athletes with minimal
or no risk is unclear and has yet to be studied. Furthermore,
the effects of inappropriately excluding the individual with
minimal or no risk of athletic-associated injury or death are
unknown.
A team physician and institution have the legal right to
restrict an individual from participating in athletics as long
as the decision is individualized, reasonably made, and
based on competent medical evidence.
46
As a result of the
decision in
Knapp versus Northwestern University
and as
noted by Maron et al,
45
difficult medical decisions
involving participation in competitive sports can be
resolved by physicians exercising prudent judgment (which
is necessarily conservativ
e when definitive scientific
evidence is lacking or conflicting) and relying on the
recommendations of specialist consultants or guidelines
established by panels of experts.
 
100% agree. Sorry, I should have been more clear. My point was in response to a poster who essentially said "just move on from the DQ issue." The point I wanted to make was that we didn't move on when we all wanted to see investment into the program from the administration, why should this be any different.

Yes it took time to get the investment implemented but it happened. With the minimal financial investment like you said, this is something that seems like a no brianer... I will say that, people need to keep in mind that technically, Syracuse University is a non profit and as such, these types of decisions have to go through channels... lots of them... and because of this it will take time even though it seems like a no brainer...

I hope I clarified what I meant?
I think some people are fine with moving on because it's not an up front obvious problem. A player gets DQ'd, they leave, and we can forget about them. Nevermind whether it is in the best interest of the person it is affecting. Same with the non-dq medical issues some people have pointed to. We can't see them, so they don't matter. We care about the superficial things we can post videos or pictures of. Sadly, it's like painting over rotten siding. It may look ok for a while, but underneath it's still rotten.
 
I think some people are fine with moving on because it's not an up front obvious problem. A player gets DQ'd, they leave, and we can forget about them. Nevermind whether it is in the best interest of the person it is affecting. Same with the non-dq medical issues some people have pointed to. We can't see them, so they don't matter. We care about the superficial things we can post videos or pictures of. Sadly, it's like painting over rotten siding. It may look ok for a while, but underneath it's still rotten.

That's exactly right sufandu it's not something that's "tangible." We can't see it, utilize it or see the benefits in it for ourselves. I think that's why some people are ok with it. And I really appreciate bcubs9497 being so vocal about this. It's something that quite frankly should have been done MANY years ago... Now that it is at the forefront, I think we the fans need to capitalize...

You asked how we can keep this from fading away... I would say keep asking the questions in emails even hand written letters... Demand WHY our process is not like our peers and reference other P5 schools policies. It looks like HtownOrange did just that, so thank you for that... Come at an angle of wanting what Dino wants, which is a level playing field...

I would also encourage Stephen Bailey and/or Nate Mink, (I know for a fact you guys are reading this) to ask the questions on behalf of the fans. (We're approaching 60 pages, so an article pretty much wrote itself). I'm sure you can write an article that doesn't hurt your access to the athletic department...
 
From another site: http://www.nata.org/sites/default/files/Conley.pdf

difficult medical decisions involving participation in competitive sports can be resolved by physicians exercising prudent judgment (which is necessarily conservative when definitive scientific evidence is lacking or conflicting) and relying on the recommendations of specialist consultants or guidelines
established by panels of experts.

Think this was overlooked by SU.
 
It did say the injury " must permanently prevent the athlete from participating in intercollegiate athletics."

Not the case , here.

It said it twice. Second time, in order to protect the athlete from being "run off"

Also not the case, here.

Also, in the exhaustive process described with the admin... One would think 2cnd, 3rd, 4th,5th, and 6th opinions would be presented. I'm not sure that happened here.

The U of Washington policy: http://static.gohuskies.com/old_site/pdf/genrel/medical_hardship_policy.pdf


Medical Disqualification – General Policy
Medical Hardship Policy
Page 4 of 6
_____________
It is the responsibility and duty of every individual involved in the medical disqualification
process to conduct themselves with the highest
level of ethics, integrity, objectivity and
professionalism. Unlike the medical hardship process, the medical disqualification process
does not involve the Pac-10 Conference. Rather, decisions regarding medical disqualifications
rest exclusively with ICA. Every medical disqual
ification case shall be scrutinized closely by all
parties involved. No medical disqualification may be approved unless and until it is verified that
the criteria set forth in Bylaw 15.5.1.3 have been met (see "Relevant NCAA Legislation" section
of this policy).
As with the medical hardship process, the role of the athletic trainers and physicians in the
medical disqualification process is limited to: (1) rendering a professional opinion as to whether
the student-athlete, as a result of an injury/illness, is permanently unable to participate in
intercollegiate athletics; and (2) providing copies
of relevant medical/training room records that
have been kept in the normal course of caring for the health of safety of UW student-athletes.
In this regard, it is important to note that no athletic trainer or team physician reports to the
coaching staff of the sport to which the athletic trainer or team physician may be assigned.
Athletic trainers and team physicians are ex
pected to exercise independent professional
judgment at all times. If an athletic trainer or team physician finds himself or herself in a position
of conflict with a coach or other ICA staff mem
ber, the athletic trainer or team physician should
bring the matter to the sport administrator or other appropriate ICA administrator immediately
without fear of retribution.
The medical disqualification process is not an alternative means for a student-athlete to quit the
team yet retain his or her athletics aid when he or she is capable of continuing to participate.
Nor is it an alternative means for a coach to “run off” a student-athlete by cutting the student-
athlete from the team and allowing the student-athlete to retain his or her athletics aid even
when the student-athlete is capable of participating. In order to be eligible for a medical
disqualification, the student-athlete's injury/illness must satisfy the criteria of Bylaw 15.5.1.3 and
permanently prevent the student-athlete from continuing to participate in intercollegiate athletics.
All ICA staff members and student-athletes are strictly prohibited from attempting to exert
pressure on an athletic trainer, other ICA staff member, team physician or student-athlete to
pursue or support a medical disqualification when one is not justified under NCAA rules.
A request for a medical disqualification can occur
at any time and may be initiated formally only
by a Head Coach, the Team Physician, the Head Physician or the Head Athletic Trainer.
As soon as it becomes apparent that a student-athlete may qualify for permanent injury status,
the Head Coach, athletic trainer and physician are required to inform the sport administrator
who oversees the student-athlete's sport. It is
critical that the sport administrator be involved
and consulted at the earliest possible time (i.e., immediately after the subject of a medical
disqualification first is raised). The sport administrator should be kept informed of all
developments related to the student-athlete’s case. In addition, it is critical that all ICA staff
members work together to ensure that the involved student-athlete understands that the medical
disqualification process can be lengthy and that
no medical disqualification will be approved
until the case has been thoroughly reviewed in accordance with the procedures below
. No one
other than the sport administrator shall make any statements to the student-athlete regarding
Medical Disqualification Procedures
Medical Hardship Policy
Page 5 of 6
_____________
the chances that the medical disqualification will be approved or whether the student-athlete will
continue receiving athletics aid.
If a Head Coach, Team Physician or the Head Athletic Trainer believes that a student-athlete
qualifies for a medical disqualification, the following steps must be taken:
1. Preliminary Discussion with Sport Administrator
. The Head Coach, the Team Physician
and/or the Head Athletic Trainer shall confer
with the sport administrator who oversees
the sport to discuss the student-athlete's case. The primary purpose of this discussion
will be to make an initial determination regarding whether a medical disqualification
appears to be justified. As appropriate and necessary, the Faculty Athletics
Representative (FAR), the Team Athletic Trainer and the Senior Associate Athletic
Director for Compliance may be invited to participate in this discussion as well.
2. Documentation
. If it appears that a medical disqualification may be justified, the Team
Physician shall prepare and sign a letter describing the onset of the injury/illness and the
treatment history. The letter shall contain a statement regarding whether, in the Team
Physician’s professional medical opinion, the injury/illness will prevent the student-
athlete from participating ever again in intercollegiate athletics. The Team Physician’s
letter shall attach copies of all of the relevant medical records and training room records
related to the student-athlete’s injury/illness.
3. Approval by Head Physician
. The Team Physician shall meet with Head Physician to
review all of the documentation, including the Team Physician’s letter. Thereafter, the
Head Physician will prepare a letter to the sport administrator indicating whether he/she
concurs or disagrees with the Team Physician's conclusions and whether, in his or her
professional opinion, the student-athlete qualifies for a medical disqualification (i.e., the
Head Physician is not required to summarize the facts of the case or summarize the
student-athlete's complete medical history.). The Head Physician’s letter shall enclose
copies of the Team Physician’s letter and the supporting medical documentation. The
Head Physician shall send copies of his/her
letter to the sport administrator, the FAR
and the Senior Associate Athletic Director for Compliance.
4. Approval by FAR, Sport Administrator and Sr. Assoc. AD for Compliance
. Upon receipt
of the medical documentation (including t
he letters from the Team Physician and Head
Physician), the sport administrator, the FAR and the Senior Associate AD for
Compliance shall determine whether the request for a medical disqualification shall be
approved. As they deem necessary and appr
opriate, the sport administrator, FAR and
Senior Associate AD for Compliance may interview the student-athlete or schedule
further meetings with any member of the training, medical or coaching staff about the
medical disqualification request. After a final decision is reached, the sport administrator
shall prepare a letter/memorandum containing the decision and provide it to the Head
Coach, the Team Physician, the Head Physician, the Head Athletic Trainer, the
compliance office and the student-athlete.
5. Conditions for Continued Receipt of Athletics Aid
. As a condition for receiving
athletically-related financial aid from
the athletics department while medically
disqualified, the student-athlete must abide by the Student-Athlete Code of Conduct. In
addition, the student-athlete shall be required to work in the athletics department each
quarter in exchange for the athletically-related financial aid. The required number of
work hours shall be based on the amount of financial aid provided by the athletics
Medical Hardship Policy
Page 6 of 6
_____________
department. If the student-athlete fails to fulfill his or her work responsibilities in a timely
manner, the athletics department may revoke the athletics aid immediately. In the
letter/memorandum approving the medical disqualification, the sport administrator shall
(i) inform the student-athlete of that he or she remains subject to the Student-Athlete
Code of Conduct; (ii) notify the student-athlete of the work requirement and the athletics
department’s right to revoke the aid if the work requirement is not satisfied; and (iii)
direct the student-athlete to contact the compliance office to obtain a work assignment.


Not what I would expect, it lacks an appeal or an outside opinion, but at least there are several parties involved in discussion and the final decision.
 
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From another site: http://www.nata.org/sites/default/files/Conley.pdf

the document is 19 pages, here's the bottom line:

Determination of Clearance
Occasionally, an abnormality or condition is found that
may limit an athlete’s participation or predispose him or her
to further injury. In these cases, the team physician should
review the following questions as the athlete’s ability to
meet the criteria for participation is being determined
15
:
1. Does the condition pose an unacceptable risk or place the
athlete at increased risk for further injury?
2. Does the condition place other participants at risk for
injury?
3. Can the athlete safely participate with treatment (eg,
medication, rehabilitation, bracing, padding)?
4. Can limited participation be allowed while treatment is
being completed?
5. If clearance is denied for certain sports or sport categories
only, in which activities can the athlete safely participate?
A specific risk analysis to provide the physician with
guidance in answering these questions has not been
developed.
138
Furthermore, the specific threshold used in
the decision depends upon numerous factors, including the
specific sport, desires of the athlete and parent, and
available protective equipment.
Clearance to participate in a particular sport should be
based on previously published guidelines such as those of
the 36th Bethesda Conference and the American Heart
Association
43
and the American Academy of Pediatrics.
44
Participation recommendations are based on the specific
diagnosis, although multiple factors, including the sport
classification and the athlete’s specific health status, affect
the decision. Whether these clearance guidelines effectively
limit the participation of athletes at risk for further injury
without limiting the participation of athletes with minimal
or no risk is unclear and has yet to be studied. Furthermore,
the effects of inappropriately excluding the individual with
minimal or no risk of athletic-associated injury or death are
unknown.
A team physician and institution have the legal right to
restrict an individual from participating in athletics as long
as the decision is individualized, reasonably made, and
based on competent medical evidence.
46
As a result of the
decision in
Knapp versus Northwestern University
and as
noted by Maron et al,
45
difficult medical decisions
involving participation in competitive sports can be
resolved by physicians exercising prudent judgment (which
is necessarily conservativ
e when definitive scientific
evidence is lacking or conflicting) and relying on the
recommendations of specialist consultants or guidelines
established by panels of experts.

In this one, it says recommendations of specialists(panel of experts). If the original specialist, indeed, changed his recommendation after further discussions with his peers... We have a 5? Specialists to Zero margin.

Also not followed. The Zero wins.
 
The Syracuse.com article yesterday in a different thread said Steven is on blood thinners. Is that true? Doesn't take much of a search to see the precautions taken if so.

Athletes and Blood Clots
 
That's a well written article.

So WMU's head physician reviewed over 250 pages of medical documents from appropriate "specialists" regarding Steven's condition and decided to clear Steven to play based on the "testimony", "evidence" and "diagnosis" of medical experts?

So our glorious family practioner who misdiagnosed & mistreated Steven (along with De Fino) said he needed to be on blood thinners for the rest of his life (wrong), Tucker treats him with a too small of a brace (wrong) and didn't take into account the over 250 pages of expert medical opinions of well known specialists (wrong). I guess 3 wrongs dont make a right either...

How can any naysayer on this Board who has come out and publically supported Tucker and/or SU/SUAD over what Bcubs & his son along with mishandling of other athletes has gone through continue to support Tucker needs to stop looking through your Orange colored glasses and call a spade a spade.

What a "CLOWN SHOW" of a med program we have here at SU...simply embarrassing.
 
No. He's not on any blood thinners.

Which thread?


Looks like the Michigan newspapers. So basically our guys say blood thinners and that's the DQ and WMU says no? I don't follow the Miami Heat, how similar is this to Chris Bosh?
 
Looks like the Michigan newspapers. So basically our guys say blood thinners and that's the DQ and WMU says no? I don't follow the Miami Heat, how similar is this to Chris Bosh?
From what I understand he was initially put on blood thinners by the SU doctors. Then was taken off of them. Worked out during the Spring, no blood thinners. Then when he went in for a subsequent follow up he was told he should go on them again. He isn't on blood thinners.

All the specialists said that he did not need to be on blood thinners.
 
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