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Syracuse football defensive tackle Steven Clark's career put in jeopardy by blood clots

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I feel like a lot of you need to back off the ledge. The kid could've been a beast but one player won't make or break a season. All due respect to him and his family but he's also not single handedly winning games. The whole situation is crap but let the season play out and try not to think the sky is falling.
You're missing or ignoring the point. It's not about any one player. It's about a flawed process that is hurting and will continue to hurt multiple players. It's not only a bunch of fans saying it either. Multiple parents of players and other individuals with knowledge of inner workings have said it.
 
I feel like a lot of you need to back off the ledge. The kid could've been a beast but one player won't make or break a season. All due respect to him and his family but he's also not single handedly winning games. The whole situation is crap but let the season play out and try not to think the sky is falling.
This isn't about the season or falling sky, but the particulars of the DQ and the "process" leading to it. People are concerned for good reasons. The plumage don't enter into it.
 
Is there any way to get all the fans to mass boycott the 1st half of the opening game. Then when they do get to their seat after half time on the tv camera side put up a big TIFO we support Clark, remove Tucker. Hit the University were it counts in their wallet.
I really hope this is hyperbole because it's just plain idiotic. Show support for one player by ignoring the rest of the team? I don't want to speak for them, but I'm positive that the Clarks would not approve of this. I'm just as upset, but let's not get ridiculous.

With that being said, I'm sure our student section will boycott the 2nd half :(
 
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Fair question, it is not one specific comment but the whole of the comment and what was not said.

1. SUAD states "...welfare and well being of our student/athletes is paramount." Follows NCAA guidelines, sheds good light on SU, states a generally good position that most of us agree with in principal. None of us wants a kid who is truly medically DQ'd to play, we do not wish a permanent injury, or worse, on anyone.

2. Wildhack acknowledges inconsistent medial opinions, a truth nearly all of us have experienced or know someone who has. Nothing more than a fact.

3. Wildhack states the official University position line: "I'm confident in the work our medical team has done." The NCAA cannot complain, meanwhile the University powers that be can quietly address the matter. No dissension in the troops.

4. What is missing is the explanation of how/why Dr. Tucker is correct. First, it is a nearly impossible position to defend; second, it would paint the University BOT and Chancellor into a corner; third, it would create much more ill will trying to justify a very wrong decision in light of the facts as known at this time; fourth, it would mean Wildhack at least will comply willingly (no behind-closed-doors-disagreements); fifth, it would mean Wildhack will not fight for his coaches and athletes.

5. Immediately following the official line of confidence in the medical team, Wildhack, without missing a beat, acknowledges Steven may play elsewhere. This strongly indicates that Wildhack sees the issue and probably indicates that the University sees the issue. The issue being that the medical decision is likely driven by fear of liability (which may not matter as the team medical personnel issued the brace that caused the blood clots for which they are likely liable - see a NY attorney for clarification and real legal advice about this instance) and not by sound medical opinion. By stating that Steven may have other playing opportunities, Wildhack has also opened the door for other schools to take a closer look at Steven's abilities. Wildhack essentially invites other schools to look at Steven's abilities and medical record and openly states Steven will have the University's support if he leaves to play elsewhere. Plainly, Wildhack knows Steven has the ability and health to play.

6. Wildhack moves right into support for Steven. Classy and proper. Steven deserves the University's support and the fans support, he has both. Wildhack is on board with Steven's best interest. Not sure if this is a signal that Wildhack is trying to force the matter behind closed doors and encouraging Steven to hold on a little longer (or possibly the medical red shirt season), but he pledges support for Steven.

Conclusion: The pressure is on Wildhack and the administration. Someone had to release a public statement. Wildhack (a Newhouse grad if I recall), the former ESPN exec, handled the matter delicately, professionally, and gave full support to Steven. Each of which should be expected by us all (who love SU for whatever reason). Wildhack delivered. Point #4 is what encourages me most. If Wildhack was merely a tool, he would have "justified" Dr. Tucker's decision, or at least attempted to do so. Instead, he covered all bases to avoid significant scrutiny, ignored a defense of Dr. Tucker and opened the door to other schools recruiting Steven, a slap in the face of Dr. Tucker (Steven is medically DQ'd even though he can play elsewhere), placing the ball in the administration/BoT's court. This may take time, but Dr. Tucker will probably take a quiet retirement...not soon enough, but sooner rather than later.

Disclaimer: This is my opinion, others are free to have their own and express them as such. A few; Bcubs, Bambrewer, Chakka, and others; may have a better interpretation based on their proximity to the people and events related to this issue and I welcome any insight (whether I am right or wrong), this is just my take on it.



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This is a very well thought out post, and I absolutely agree with your conclusion. Like you I am removed from all the people involved here (and therefore have no specific insights), so I know I can only speak in general terms based on my observations of institutional behavior over the years.

Your concluding paragraph is precisely what I think will happen, although sadly some time will have to pass before Dr.Tucker quietly retires in an attempt to "de link" that event from the Steven Clark matter. This will likely mean Steven will move on to play (his expressed desire) elsewhere unless he is willing to take a year off to continue his education, and hope a new set of doctors eyes will clear him at SU.

One minor point - the AD expresses his confidence in the "work" the medical team has done, not in the "team" itself. This is an important distinction, I believe, and provides both some liability protection and wiggle room if the constitution of that team is altered in the future.

Incidentally, when is Dr. Tucker 75?
 
This is a very well thought out post, and I absolutely agree with your conclusion. Like you I am removed from all the people involved here (and therefore have no specific insights), so I know I can only speak in general terms based on my observations of institutional behavior over the years.

Your concluding paragraph is precisely what I think will happen, although sadly some time will have to pass before Dr.Tucker quietly retires in an attempt to "de link" that event from the Steven Clark matter. This will likely mean Steven will move on to play (his expressed desire) elsewhere unless he is willing to take a year off to continue his education, and hope a new set of doctors eyes will clear him at SU.

One minor point - the AD expresses his confidence in the "work" the medical team has done, not in the "team" itself. This is an important distinction, I believe, and provides both some liability protection and wiggle room if the constitution of that team is altered in the future.

Incidentally, when is Dr. Tucker 75?

Your distinction is spot on. Confidence in the "work" not the "team" when it comes to medical treatment.
 
SU is a business, and I agree that Fball dq's aren't a top priority, but we aren't Harvard academically, and the Athletic Department is important to the culture and recognition of the University. UNC preached academics as their first priority too, and we know how that turned out. If you are going to fish in the P5 athletic pond, you have to commit to buying the best equipment.
I agree with most comments, but you can have academics AND athletics. When I was getting my master's degree at Duke in the early '80s, I dated a woman who worked in Admissions. She told me that kids who were offered an athletic scholarship had to go through a blind admissions process with no reference to their offers. I don't know if that procedure is still in place.
 
Exactly! We know JB will defend people loyal to him to the death. Maybe we should send emails to JB. That may actually get Tucker to reopen the case. Sad.

Doesn't make sense to me. JB was loyal to the Raphaels who basically were replaced because the university wanted a big medical team to support the AD. That's why the older Raphael was pushed out I thought.
 
Doesn't make sense to me. JB was loyal to the Raphaels who basically were replaced because the university wanted a big medical team to support the AD. That's why the older Raphael was pushed out I thought.
Yep
 
I feel like a lot of you need to back off the ledge. The kid could've been a beast but one player won't make or break a season. All due respect to him and his family but he's also not single handedly winning games. The whole situation is crap but let the season play out and try not to think the sky is falling.
You seem to miss the point. This isn't specifically about SC. It's the system and being unfair to some of these kids.
 
Ok I'm hearing Tucker has long term ties to JB...unfortunately nothing changes at SUAD unless JB approves...nuff said...

Ok maybe you guys don't realize this but JB is SUAD.​

You sure about that? Can't say you're wrong but I've never heard that connection. At least not as strong as you're making it.
 
You sure about that? Can't say you're wrong but I've never heard that connection. At least not as strong as you're making it.

I was asked by a few people what's Tucker's connection to SU? Tucker doesn't seem to have any BOT connection but more than one person emailed me and said JB supported and/or recommended Tucker to get on the Med staff long ago.

Tucker's been erratic in his decision making process for quite some time now culminating in this last tragic event with Steven's DQ. Outright incompetence plain and simple, however, there seems to be some umbrella protecting Tucker. Coyle was on track to replace most of the Med staff, just like the S&C staff, with competent sports Med docs along with standardized DQ processes and other Med processes to be put in place (like nutrition etc). Practices like DQ by committee similar to how most things get done at Universities - by committee (that's why things take forever at SU). Coyle was met with a lot of resistance and then he left as we know.

JB never gets involved in other people's job or business - extremely hands off as many know. However, he will defend anyone who has shown him loyalty and fight for them vigorously. It's his style. I clarified with JLine in later posts that JB isn't and shouldn't be involved in this or anyone else's business but does get involved when supporting those loyal to him. Things may have changed somewhat with Sevyrud but not enough for when JB refused to retire, Sevyrud & Wildhack capitulated.
 
Doesn't make sense to me. JB was loyal to the Raphaels who basically were replaced because the university wanted a big medical team to support the AD. That's why the older Raphael was pushed out I thought.

Irv still does basketball and their practice is now part of SOS who takes care of all the other sports. Battaglia is one of the main football surgeons.
 
Please tell me this isn't being forgotten about...

Seems like an ongoing issue, that keeps getting swept under the rug.
 
I was asked by a few people what's Tucker's connection to SU? Tucker doesn't seem to have any BOT connection but more than one person emailed me and said JB supported and/or recommended Tucker to get on the Med staff long ago.

Tucker's been erratic in his decision making process for quite some time now culminating in this last tragic event with Steven's DQ. Outright incompetence plain and simple, however, there seems to be some umbrella protecting Tucker. Coyle was on track to replace most of the Med staff, just like the S&C staff, with competent sports Med docs along with standardized DQ processes and other Med processes to be put in place (like nutrition etc). Practices like DQ by committee similar to how most things get done at Universities - by committee (that's why things take forever at SU). Coyle was met with a lot of resistance and then he left as we know.

JB never gets involved in other people's job or business - extremely hands off as many know. However, he will defend anyone who has shown him loyalty and fight for them vigorously. It's his style. I clarified with JLine in later posts that JB isn't and shouldn't be involved in this or anyone else's business but does get involved when supporting those loyal to him. Things may have changed somewhat with Sevyrud but not enough for when JB refused to retire, Sevyrud & Wildhack capitulated.
good information and again I think Coyle was better than people here give him credit for.
 
You sure about that? Can't say you're wrong but I've never heard that connection. At least not as strong as you're making it.

Yes, let's hope this isnt true. Otherwise we will be looking for a new fb coach. Quite frankly, not sure just how Tucker got the job in the first place w/o specific orthopedic, neuro, and/or sports medicine training.
 
He's 71. He knows he's not wanted. Why does he persist? Is he aware at any level of his dickish behavior? I'm serious. Is his role something for him to be in control of?
 
Thanks. And, he won't. He's just not wired that way =D

I'd be more likely to assume he already has this game circled on his calendar. Syracuse deserves a big bowl of dog feces for the way they handled this and I assume Steven wants to show up with the spoon to shove it down their throats. I don't blame him one bit.
 
Thanks. And, he won't. He's just not wired that way =D
Best wishes to the Clark clan...sad to see him go and hope he thrives...this should have worked out better...
 
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