Syracuse football QB Eric Dungey is healthy for spring practice

[sutomcat]

Great news. I have no medical degree and am no expert but it seems to me that Syracuse, and all other schools that play sports for that matter, should work with the most expert medical authority in the area of concussions to determine the proper course of action in the event of an injury to the brain.

This is an area of medicine where there is a lot of research going on, where things are changing rapidly. There is a lot on the line. We have kids who can have their lives ruined with bad decisions, whether the decision is too aggressive and the player is re-injured or too conservative and the player misses games needlessly.

I like that an expert was consulted. This should be the standard practice from this point forward. Let's let the family practice doctors handle what they are qualified to handle and bring in other experts as necessary to ensure the athletes have the best care possible.

If SU does that, this policy should be its best defense in the event an athlete sues it sometime down the road. The athletes get the best possible care and everyone wins.

Best wishes to Eric for a safe and healthy final two years at Syracuse. He deserves it.

 

[Finwad32]

Great news. I have no medical degree and am no expert but it seems to me that Syracuse, and all other schools that play sports for that matter, should work with the most expert medical authority in the area of concussions to determine the proper course of action in the event of an injury to the brain.

This is an area of medicine where there is a lot of research going on, where things are changing rapidly. There is a lot on the line. We have kids who can have their lives ruined with bad decisions, whether the decision is too aggressive and the player is re-injured or too conservative and the player misses games needlessly.

I like that an expert was consulted. This should be the standard practice from this point forward. Let's let the family practice doctors handle what they are qualified to handle and bring in other experts as necessary to ensure the athletes have the best care possible.

If SU does that, this policy should be its best defense in the event an athlete sues it sometime down the road. The athletes get the best possible care and everyone wins.

Best wishes to Eric for a safe and healthy final two years at Syracuse. He deserves it.

Very well said Tom.

 

[bcubs9497]

I think there is a lot of erring on the conservative side going on and not just with Dungey.

Yep.

 

[CuseLegacy]

Great news. I have no medical degree and am no expert but it seems to me that Syracuse, and all other schools that play sports for that matter, should work with the most expert medical authority in the area of concussions to determine the proper course of action in the event of an injury to the brain.

This is an area of medicine where there is a lot of research going on, where things are changing rapidly. There is a lot on the line. We have kids who can have their lives ruined with bad decisions, whether the decision is too aggressive and the player is re-injured or too conservative and the player misses games needlessly.

I like that an expert was consulted. This should be the standard practice from this point forward. Let's let the family practice doctors handle what they are qualified to handle and bring in other experts as necessary to ensure the athletes have the best care possible.

If SU does that, this policy should be its best defense in the event an athlete sues it sometime down the road. The athletes get the best possible care and everyone wins.

Best wishes to Eric for a safe and healthy final two years at Syracuse. He deserves it.

Well said. It is sad that the parents have to take their kids, on their dime, to experts rather than the university providing the best possible care to the players.

 

[bevosu]

I posted this a couple of days ago and it apparently got lost because of the Clemson/Alabama game.

Research on head injuries and possible concussions. It's a short article and touches on the research being done on potential brain damage done by particular hits.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...d&version=Full&src=me&WT.nav=MostEmailed&_r=1

 

[sutomcat]

Well said. It is sad that the parents have to take their kids, on their dime, to experts rather than the university providing the best possible care to the players.

Yup. Hope SU wakes up and makes changes. The proper response isn't to have an unqualified but well intentioned person set up arbitrary rules leaning strongly in a direction to protect against possible future lawsuits to determine if someone is fit to play.

It in fact opens the door and invites players to sue the university.

Change the policy ASAP. Do what is right for the players. Now.

 

[Chip]

Well said. It is sad that the parents have to take their kids, on their dime, to experts rather than the university providing the best possible care to the players.

Can you (or anyone) share what the hold up is at SU to take the approach of providing the best experts?

Is this not something the ACC $ can pay for?

 

[OrangePA]

Excellent news!

Really pleased to hear that Eric is 100% and ready to play.

 

[OrangePA]

Great news, now he just needs to slide when he has to run...Popcorn

Yes.

And reduce the number of planned runs.

And nail anybody who takes a shot at Eric.

 

[Chip]

And nail anybody who takes a shot at Eric.

I know who's first up, around say, the 3rd game of the year.

 

[newmexicuse]

Mixed feelings......

as a fan, of course, I want a kid with a monstrous heart and terrific talent to be our potential game changer on the field. In that respect, it is great that he has received medical clearance.

However, I think this kid needs to take a very hard look at his future. Maybe, he believes he can get to the next level and play for pay. But, unless he thinks that will happen, he is probably nuts to risk his future as a normally healthy human being for one more year of college football glory. And, even if he gets to the next level, it is not to say that he would not get hurt later on.

I really love a kid with guts and moxie, which Eric has in abundance. I really hope if he plays that that will turn out to be the best decision for him.

 

[bcubs9497]

Mixed feelings...

as a fan, of course, I want a kid with a monstrous heart and terrific talent to be our potential game changer on the field. In that respect, it is great that he has received medical clearance.

However, I think this kid needs to take a very hard look at his future. Maybe, he believes he can get to the next level and play for pay. But, unless he thinks that will happen, he is probably nuts to risk his future as a normally healthy human being for one more year of college football glory. And, even if he gets to the next level, it is not to say that he would not get hurt later on.

I really love a kid with guts and moxie, which Eric has in abundance. I really hope if he plays that that will turn out to be the best decision for him.

He's not really risking his future any more so than any other player on the field.

 

[orangepassion]

I am actually pro-injury.

Honestly, the media coverage provided to this topic has sensationalized it to the point where everybody is up in arms about a topic they really know nothing about.

Nobody can prove that three concussions will harm quality of life 25 years down the road.

One concussion may harm one individual and 112 may not harm another. We can be as conservative as we want as a society, but, it's up to each individual person what they're willing sacrifice for anything, not just concussions.

Common sense tells you that ramming your head into something is probably bad. But, football's not the only thing that presents an opportunity to do that. And, nobody really currently knows how it's effecting anybody other than the person who sustains the injury.

I'm pro-choice, not pro-injury.

 

[orangehomer]

has he been cleared to play by SU? is there anything worry about here?

 

[OburgOrange]

So if Dungey could have returned to play last year, who's call was it to hold him out? The Medical staff?, the coaching staff? Administration? I can't see Dino not playing him if he was healthy . It must have been very frustrating fir Dino. One win from a bowl game. Maybe some of the reason for his discontent?

 

[RMH44]

I know who's first up, around say, the 3rd game of the year.

Yep...It conjures up memories from the original Longest Yard movie.

 

[dasher]

You summed up my position on this beautifully. As long as Dungey is provided with good medical opinion by the University and any other outside doctors they see fit, then the decision to play should be up to him, his family, and his doctors.

So it is your position that boxing has it wrong in that they let a dr or a ref stop a fight even If the fighter wants to keep fighting ? I disagree. Young people think they are immortal. They certainly never think about their quality of life as they get older. Someone responsible has to.

 

[dasher]

So if Dungey could have returned to play last year, who's call was it to hold him out? The Medical staff?, the coaching staff? Administration? I can't see Dino not playing him if he was healthy . It must have been very frustrating fir Dino. One win from a bowl game. Maybe some of the reason for his discontent?

The Medical staff has to have that responsibility. No coach has the strength to sit a kid that he needs to win.

 

[UD1954]

I said when he left the Clemson game with injury it wasn't a concussion. ...he was on the sideline in the bright sun along with a noise level in Death Valley that's unbearable. ...those are two of the main things a concused person avoids...

 

[RMH44]

So it is your position that boxing has it wrong in that they let a dr or a ref stop a fight even If the fighter wants to keep fighting ? I disagree. Young people think they are immortal. They certainly never think about their quality of life as they get older. Someone responsible has to.

Apples to oranges.

The boxing ref stops an ongoing fight (which, btw, is done during games by trainers and med staff) while the DQ's often happen long after the event when players are symptom free.

 

[Consigliere]

September 16, 2017. Get ready. Mitch! We'll be practicing this one all spring.

 

[Cuseman78]

So it is your position that boxing has it wrong in that they let a dr or a ref stop a fight even If the fighter wants to keep fighting ? I disagree. Young people think they are immortal. They certainly never think about their quality of life as they get older. Someone responsible has to.

Huh? I clearly mentioned the consultation with doctors (even multiple opinions) in my post. The point is that we have about a million doctors on this board and in the media assuming the kid has suffered 19 concussions. I fall in line with the Finwad line of thinking here. He laid it out much better than I did.

 

[dasher]

Huh? I clearly mentioned the consultation with doctors (even multiple opinions) in my post. The point is that we have about a million doctors on this board and in the media assuming the kid has suffered 19 concussions. I fall in line with the Finwad line of thinking here. He laid it out much better than I did.

Medical professionals are the only people that I trust to make these decisions. I sure don't trust coaches.

 

[PAcuse]

I said when he left the Clemson game with injury it wasn't a concussion. ...he was on the sideline in the bright sun along with a noise level in Death Valley that's unbearable. ...those are two of the main things a concused person avoids...

A bunch of us did, but got vetoed by the board certified doctors

 

[Ish88888]

That was my suspicion and fear. I'm hoping that we start making some changes within the medical staff before this costs us players (and head coaches).

AMEN. I believe the current medical "staff " (one primary physician) has dq'ed a few possibility prematurely. Please, please, lets get a 2017, medical hierarchy of specialists to make these calls. GO ED!!!!