Tauren Thompson/ Kaleb
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I don't think this was necessary.
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Nothing disparaging intended. I think Thompson appears aloof (maybe he is a great kid). Kaleb is a great kid and smart, will graduate and do good things in life just like a lot of other college grads. This is a basketball forum meant to discuss recruits, transfers, players, etc. Both guys were highly touted as possible NBA players so purely from a basketball only perspective, puts things in perspective that we are better off on the court without them. Unfortunately when you are a scholarship player you will get judged in any D1 program. Hope both of these kids are happy and get a education.
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It came off as you thumbing your nose at them, intended or not. I just don't see the point of highlighting their struggles. It's not like either left with a middle finger to the program or fans.
Kaleb was, more or less, forced out and TT wanted to be closer to home/mom.
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Both logged big minutes for us as freshman. Not sure they were complete misses its not like we got into ACC play and Kaleb fell off a cliff got DNP-ed like a certain current freshman guard for us has. Both had a chance to sit and improve in an easier conference and have clearly blown it Creightons guards suck and Halls forwards suck. I'm surprised.
From a purely basketball standpoint with no intangibles factored in based on their play as freshmen both would have helped last years team that had no bench with 10-15 mins a game.
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Maybe it says something about our talent evaluation.
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A middle finger would have been better than the way TT left.
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This post would of been 10,000% better if you would of provided their stats.
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I can see you’re trying to carve out a role as social conscience of the board, but this isn’t even remotely true about Thompson.
I was thinking the same thing or shows how difficult it is to evaluate kids and predict where they will develop.
Maybe it says something about how sanctions hurt us. If you miss (and all teams do despite what some people think) it hurts you a lot more than when you have a full number of schollies.
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Yeah, I think the Joseph schollie was a clear miss and it really hurt us, but ultimately that miss is amplified by the sanctions. Not sure either of those points are debatable. Now, if you want to argue that our overall talent evaluation is a problem, certainly Joseph would be exhibit A but I really don't know that there's much there to argue with. I mean, if anything we seem to still be in early on kids and then lose out late -- maybe that's an issue with closing or connections or recruiting effort, but it would at least suggest the staff knows what a good basketball prospect looks like.
Taurean Thompson to me, as a later add, was actually an example of good talent evalutaion but perhaps not the best evaluation of a player's off-the-court situation and, perhaps, his overall mentality. I mean, the kid averaged 9 a game in 18 minutes on 55% shooting as a true frosh big. You don't see that very often. But it just seems like those other issues are holding him back. Just sort of sad b/c he's a talented kid. Hopefully he figures it out.
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Call me crazy, but didn't the SU coaches find out about TT after the school semester started and TT was a no show? I recall during that summer many posters wondering why he wasn't at SU all summer and what was going on. I also thought he disengaged from all of his teammates that had been attempting to get a hold of him? If that truly was the case, that's kind of him giving us the middle finger in my book, regardless of what his mother's involvement was, he was an adult.
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Sounds like the coaches knew in June that he was transferring.
Why Taurean Thompson, once promising Syracuse forward, went back home
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That's less an FU and more a product of immaturity, imo. It wasn't cool, but I was referring to the fact that there didn't appear to be any animosity or malice. His mom was handed a bag of money, or whatever, and convinced her son to come back home to play ball.
I wasn't happy when he left and didn't appreciate the way he left, but pointing and laughing at him this far down the road just seems to be in poor taste.
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Are you sure?
This is from your link: But sometime late in the summer of 2017, he said, he notified Syracuse head coach Jim Boeheim that he would transfer
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He wasn't in Syracuse all summer long, and he wasn't returning any phone calls.
I'm sure JB at least suspected that TT was unhappy.
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To me, KJ2 was a baffling miss. I thought he would be good. Identified by the staff early. They have a good record on those recruits.
To me, TT made a mistake. I know it's not in vogue, but I think he would have been developed at SU into much more than what we're seeing at the Hall. He would have needed to learn defense, the much easier side to learn. He would have the scoring center role. The Marek/Lydon role. TT still would have needed to improve his D, but he could easily have made strides in that department, IMO, by just improving his effort and decision making. He made a mistake, at SU he would have had Marek's minutes with more of an offensive pop.
To me, TT made a mistake. I know it's not in vogue, but I think he would have been developed at SU into much more than what we're seeing at the Hall. He would have needed to learn defense, the much easier side to learn. He would have the scoring center role. The Marek/Lydon role. TT still would have needed to improve his D, but he could easily have made strides in that department, IMO, by just improving his effort and decision making. He made a mistake, at SU he would have had Marek's minutes with more of an offensive pop.
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I'm sure JAB thought he had seen everything in all his years of coaching but how often would you have a player not talk to any coach or player. JAB did fly down there in August to probably find out what was going on and to see if he could talk TT to come back. Really weird that no one knew for sure because of the lack of communication.
But sometime late in the summer of 2017, he said, he notified Syracuse head coach Jim Boeheim that he would transfer. He explained to Boeheim that his decision was not related to frustration with playing time or the coaches. Instead, he wanted to play at a New York area school to be near his mom, who had begun “experiencing some issues,” he said.
Soon, Thompson said, Boeheim flew from Syracuse to New Jersey to meet with him. He did not recall much of the August 2017 meeting. Thompson explained his mother’s health.
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TT ghosted JB... All the millennials are doing it... It's socially acceptable now 
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I"m not sure about that, especially if you're not motivated but even if you are. Not every four-year player got the hang of the zone.
He's been at SH two years and his coach says he's struggling on defense. He might not have done well here.
