That onside kick call

[OttoinGrotto]

College refs stink. ACC refs in particular are awful.

That was a ref literally looking to make a call before the the kick. He was itching to throw a flag for something.

Could have been on either team, and we drew the short straw.

Officiating in football is a complete joke.

It felt the same as Fair getting called for the charge against Duke.

 

[upperdeck]

You can throw the flag on the play, but it needs to be an obvious block and clearly before 10 yds. not marginal on both

 

[djorange1989]

I’m not one to hold back in the ref’s, but this game was lost on defense giving up 37 points to a one dimensional team is simply inexcusable. That’s why we lost.

Yep, pathetic effort

 

[Bayside44]

College refs stink. ACC refs in particular are awful.

That was a ref literally looking to make a call before the the kick. He was itching to throw a flag for something.

Could have been on either team, and we drew the short straw.

Officiating in football is a complete joke.

By far the worst of all the major sports.

 

[Scooch]

By far the worst of all the major sports.

I’d say it’s a tie with hoops. They’re both abysmal.

 

[The Ack]

College refs stink. ACC refs in particular are awful.

That was a ref literally looking to make a call before the the kick. He was itching to throw a flag for something.

Could have been on either team, and we drew the short straw.

Officiating in football is a complete joke.

Lmao we had a call against us today on 3rd and 1 because "the officials weren't set to officiate", or some made up ref-speak like that. you guys, get you shi÷÷y arses together and do your decidedly minimal athletic responsibilities. Idiots.


That is all...

 

[tino]

It felt the same as Fair getting called for the charge against Duke.

Yep

 

[Bayside44]

I’d say it’s a tie with hoops. They’re both abysmal.

I think about this too much. Hoops the ball can at least usually go back to the other team quickly. Here a bad call is so punitive with both yardage and time of possession.

 

[Jake]

So I don’t think it was a horribly bad call, but I think it was the wrong call. I thought the rule was put into place to protect a player inside the 10 yard zone to grab the ball before it goes ten yards.

I thought the player had to establish themselves inside the ten yard cushion. I dont think he did.

But as others said, that call isn’t the reason why we lost. Fran is going to have to do some soul searching in the off season regarding his DC. Robinson is over his head like no other coordinator I’ve seen here since Brian Parriani.

He’s stubborn. The first clue was the “I wouldn’t have done anything different” remark after Stanford.

The tackling the past two weeks has been JV level. The lack of adjustments mind boggling.

ADJW might have to step in and demand we hire a guy w/ DC experience who can also handle special teams. Robinson can recruit, but his feel for calling a defense is terrible…and the fundamentals are missing.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

I’d say it’s a tie with hoops. They’re both abysmal.

Men's LAX.

 

[Bayside44]

Men's LAX.

Only when at Cornell

 

[690West]

The game changed when they screwed up the Safety call that fueled a BC run.

I am interested in this. We were debating if he inadvertently kicks it is the safety the right call?

 

[OttoinGrotto]

I am interested in this. We were debating if he inadvertently kicks it is the safety the right call?

Yeah my thought is that's a live ball. Nobody is in possession.

 

[The Ack]

So I don’t think it was a horribly bad call, but I think it was the wrong call. I thought the rule was put into place to protect a player inside the 10 yard zone to grab the ball before it goes ten yards.

I thought the player had to establish themselves inside the ten yard cushion. I dont think he did.

But as others said, that call isn’t the reason why we lost. Fran is going to have to do some soul searching in the off season regarding his DC. Robinson is over his head like no other coordinator I’ve seen here since Brian Parriani.

He’s stubborn. The first clue was the “I wouldn’t have done anything different” remark after Stanford.

The tackling the past two weeks has been JV level. The lack of adjustments mind boggling.

ADJW might have to step in and demand we hire a guy w/ DC experience who can also handle special teams. Robinson can recruit, but his feel for calling a defense is terrible…and the fundamentals are missing.

Good points. Your "stubborn" observation is key. This D has shown not just an unwillingness to be flexible, but almost an allergic reaction to being flexible. That is hindering our performances because a number of our most talented defenders have shown they have the ability to flex to multiple spots.

We should be harder to prepare for and, imo, opposing offensive coaches have shown looks we would have expected to see. They don't respect our scheme.

Fran stated this week that a focal point of our prep is not being predictable. I'd argue at this point in the season our D is the most predictable unit on the team - which is saying a lot.

 

[Cuse181]

The game changed when they screwed up the Safety call that fueled a BC run.

What did they screw up?

 

[OttoinGrotto]

So I don’t think it was a horribly bad call, but I think it was the wrong call. I thought the rule was put into place to protect a player inside the 10 yard zone to grab the ball before it goes ten yards.

I thought the player had to establish themselves inside the ten yard cushion. I dont think he did.

But as others said, that call isn’t the reason why we lost. Fran is going to have to do some soul searching in the off season regarding his DC. Robinson is over his head like no other coordinator I’ve seen here since Brian Parriani.

He’s stubborn. The first clue was the “I wouldn’t have done anything different” remark after Stanford.

The tackling the past two weeks has been JV level. The lack of adjustments mind boggling.

ADJW might have to step in and demand we hire a guy w/ DC experience who can also handle special teams. Robinson can recruit, but his feel for calling a defense is terrible…and the fundamentals are missing.

ERob will get more time, but I agree he needs some help. Hopefully he listens.

It's a tricky thing. As anyone knows that has climbed the ladder professionally, part of what gets you up some rungs is belief in yourself and belief that what you're doing is the right thing. You need a certain amount of confidence and certainly.

It's very clear that if ERob wants to keep climbing, or even just stay where he is on the ladder, he's going to have to learn and level up. Hard to do in season. How we look next season will be telling.

Fwiw scheme wise I do think he's chosen a harder path. As much as Shafer was limited as a HC, his chaos and disruption style of defense is better fit to a program like ours I think that's not stacking highly ranked recruiting classes. McDonald for example was a lot better last season when his assignment was about action instead of reaction. Maybe this scheme is great for us in 3-4 years when the classes stack up. But right now it does seem soft and mismatched. Way too early to give up on Robinson though.

 

[NineOneSeven]

Really unfortunate call and way too close for it. Can’t let it distract us from giving up like 350 yards rushing.

Still, if the flag wasn’t called highly doubt any player on BC argues it. So from that standpoint, yeah, it shouldn’t have been called.

 

[Jake]

ERob will get more time, but I agree he needs some help. Hopefully he listens.

It's a tricky thing. As anyone knows that has climbed the ladder professionally, part of what gets you up some rungs is belief in yourself and belief that what you're doing is the right thing. You need a certain amount of confidence and certainly.

It's very clear that if ERob wants to keep climbing, or even just stay where he is on the ladder, he's going to have to learn and level up. Hard to do in season. How we look next season will be telling.

Fwiw scheme wise I do think he's chosen a harder path. As much as Shafer was limited as a HC, his chaos and disruption style of defense is better fit to a program like ours I think that's not stacking highly ranked recruiting classes. McDonald for example was a lot better last season when his assignment was about action instead of reaction. Maybe this scheme is great for us in 3-4 years when the classes stack up. But right now it does seem soft and mismatched. Way too early to give up on Robinson though.

Aggressive college defenses are successful, because QB play isn’t as strong as the NFL.

 

[Frozen]

What did they screw up?

In my view, nothing. QB fumbles and the loose ball is accidentally kicked out the back of the end zone. A safety is the correct call.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

Aggressive college defenses are successful, because QB play isn’t as strong as the NFL.

Definitely a huge part of it.

 

[richmondcuse03]

ERob will get more time, but I agree he needs some help. Hopefully he listens.

It's a tricky thing. As anyone knows that has climbed the ladder professionally, part of what gets you up some rungs is belief in yourself and belief that what you're doing is the right thing. You need a certain amount of confidence and certainly.

It's very clear that if ERob wants to keep climbing, or even just stay where he is on the ladder, he's going to have to learn and level up. Hard to do in season. How we look next season will be telling.

Fwiw scheme wise I do think he's chosen a harder path. As much as Shafer was limited as a HC, his chaos and disruption style of defense is better fit to a program like ours I think that's not stacking highly ranked recruiting classes. McDonald for example was a lot better last season when his assignment was about action instead of reaction. Maybe this scheme is great for us in 3-4 years when the classes stack up. But right now it does seem soft and mismatched. Way too early to give up on Robinson though.

Agree. My issue right now is we don’t have the talent for the scheme he wants to run. And it appears we don’t have enough bodies to play four down linemen or we’re just stubbornly not doing it. I don’t know the reality.

 

[cusefan88]

Agree. My issue right now is we don’t have the talent for the scheme he wants to run. And it appears we don’t have enough bodies to play four down linemen or we’re just stubbornly not doing it. I don’t know the reality.

A man-for-man scheme works if you have SEC size and talent. Not so much at Cuse. We'll see what happens over the off-season.

 

[richmondcuse03]

A man-for-man scheme works if you have SEC size and talent. Not so much at Cuse. We'll see what happens over the off-season.

The reality is this coaching staff was hired to get more sec level talent. If they can’t do it the scheme won’t matter either. We’ve lost with good coaches who try to out scheme with inferior talent too. We’re trying a different approach. Who knows what will happen but not like the prior approach was working either.

 

[orangezen]

We need a tackling guru any suggestion?

 

[OrangeXtreme]

Only when at Cornell

We got screwed at home vs Maryland because of some goal mouth bs.