That Power Run/Tight End Offense Sure Does Suck

[OrangeinBoston]

SU should aspire to the OSU offense, not the Ducks'.

 

[Scooch]

I'd strangle a cute animal to have just half of either teams talent.

Scheme is secondary at best.

 

[IthacaBarrel]

I'd strangle a cute animal to have just half of either teams talent.

Scheme is secondary at best.

Exactly. Scheme shmeme.

 

[CanadianSU]

I'd strangle a cute animal to have just half of either teams talent.

Scheme is secondary at best.

are you sure ?

 

[Scooch]

are you sure ?

Hell yeah.

And I mean, when you're 3-9 and coming off one of the worst offensive seasons in school history you definitely should look at the team sitting at 13-1 and in the national title game with disdain.

Where does Oregon get off?!

 

[CanadianSU]

Hell yeah.

And I mean, when you're 3-9 and coming off one of the worst offensive seasons in school history you definitely should look at the team sitting at 13-1 and in the national title game with disdain.

Where does Oregon get off?!

I meant the cute animal part but yes I totally agree with you

 

[Scooch]

I meant the cute animal part but yes I totally agree with you

Oh I know.

There's a lot of cute animals. Strangling just one seems like a fair trade off.

 

[Full_Rebar]

The speed in this game is unreal.

 

[anomander]

I'd strangle a cute animal to have just half of either teams talent.

Scheme is secondary at best.

you mean all these 4 and 5 stars aren't just mistakes by the recruiting services?

 

[SUfaninAZ]

you mean all these 4 and 5 stars aren't just mistakes by the recruiting services?

Coaching is a big part of it as well. I mean Boise St won with 2 and 3 star talent.

 

[anomander]

Coaching is a big part of it as well. I mean Boise St won with 2 and 3 star talent.

I do agree that coaching and scheme is a big part, and of course there are outliers, but give me crazy talent first and foremost. As for Boise they rose up and won against the big dogs in spot occasions, but if they had to go through the grind of any of the P5 conferences i don't think they would be the Boise St we know

 

[CanadianSU]

Coaching is bigger for us (Syracuse) because we DO NOT get this type of talent...

It would be nice though. Because for these teams Talent > Coaching

 

[SUfaninAZ]

I do agree that coaching and scheme is a big part, and of course there are outliers, but give me crazy talent first and foremost. As for Boise they rose up and won against the big dogs in spot occasions, but if they had to go through the grind of any of the P5 conferences i don't think they would be the Boise St we know

Very true. They wouldn't have the depth either.

 

[jgeorge322]

I think urban meyer is good at instilling a winning attitude. He gets max effort. To me, great coaching is more important than great talent.

 

[Millhouse]

If you have giants who can run like deer, great. But I still see lots of 3 and 4 wr sets

 

[SUfaninAZ]

This is one hell of a game plan by OSU.

 

[Full_Rebar]

If you have giants who can run like deer, great. But I still see lots of 3 and 4 wr sets

Yes, running up the middle is easier when you spread the field. This is what people should be seeing in this game.

 

[Scooch]

Yes, running up the middle is easier when you spread the field. This is what people should be seeing in this game.

Being aggressive on 4th down seems to pay off too.

Not a lot of hoping to pin them back and tilt the field and force a turnover stuff.

 

[supp]

I'd strangle a cute animal to have just half of either teams talent.

Scheme is secondary at best.

No one that sat through the Pariani and Spence years can say that with a straight face. You've posted this alot over the past few months and this is one case where you're wrong. A smart scheme will make average players look good. A bad scheme will make average players look awful. A good scheme and good players...well, that's what you're seeing tonight.

 

[Scooch]

No one that sat through the Pariani and Spence years can say that with a straight face. You've posted this alot over the past few months and this is one case where you're wrong. A smart scheme will make average players look good. A bad scheme will make average players look awful. A good scheme and good players...well, that's what you're seeing tonight.

When you have tOSU or Oregon talent, scheme is secondary.

 

[RF2044]

When you have tOSU or Oregon talent, scheme is secondary.

Agree 100%.

 

[jgeorge322]

The funny thing is with cuse, all we want is an average offense for now. As jimmy b once said, bad would be an improvement.

 

[Dr. Bill]

SU should aspire to the OSU offense, not the Ducks'.

I agree 100%. We have a better chance of recruiting some big offensive lineman, traditional power tight ends, and running backs, than we do finding the QB and skilled wideouts we would need for that type of system. Ohio, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, Illinois, and New York offer those type of players. Just my opinion……

 

[supp]

When you have tOSU or Oregon talent, scheme is secondary.

Miami? Florida? Texas? Scheme and coaching matters just as much at that level.

 

[Scooch]

No one that sat through the Pariani and Spence years can say that with a straight face. You've posted this alot over the past few months and this is one case where you're wrong. A smart scheme will make average players look good. A bad scheme will make average players look awful. A good scheme and good players...well, that's what you're seeing tonight.

And the thread was started by someone advocating SU would be better off emulating tOSU than Oregon. As if it's THAT which is holding us back from having an offense that is an abject disaster.