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The all-inclusive Rutgers dumpster fire thread...


Is Rutgers considering everyone in the B1G a future rival?

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The Big Ten enters a new, 14-team era in 2014. The conference, with a fair bit of cynicism, opted for lucrative television markets with Maryland and Rutgers over football prowess (66th and 93rd in SRS respectively). These additions will only dilute the Big Ten’s underwhelming conference schedules further. Paired with soft non-conference schedules optimized for ease and home revenue, Big Ten teams are offering no reason beyond blind loyalty for their fans to buy season tickets.

http://thebiglead.com/2013/12/18/th...cket-in-2014-because-the-schedules-are-awful/
 
Why should SU play BCS opponents OOC in the future, it is such a ridiculous handicap compared to what peer programs are doing.

In the last five years SU has scheduled OOC PSU and Northwestern in 2013, Missouri, Minnesota, USC, Northwestern in 2012, Wake and USC in 2011, BC and Washington in 2010, and Minnesota, Northwestern and PSU in 2009.

Screw that, three low mid majors and a D-1AA from now on.
 
Some are thinking Blacknall is next:

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Why should SU play BCS opponents OOC in the future, it is such a ridiculous handicap compared to what peer programs are doing.

In the last five years SU has scheduled OOC PSU and Northwestern in 2013, Missouri, Minnesota, USC, Northwestern in 2012, Wake and USC in 2011, BC and Washington in 2010, and Minnesota, Northwestern and PSU in 2009.

Screw that, three low mid majors and a D-1AA from now on.
Duke who everyone applauds for their outstanding season, North Carolina Center-MEAC-FCS division, Memphis-AAC, Troy-Sun Belt, and Navy were their OOC opponents. We gave away Pitt or would have been 5-3 in ACC, and with Duke's OOC possibly 9-3. we need to stop scheduling games that are a good possibility to lose, and schedule games to win. A record of 9-3 is much better then 7-5 in the eyes of recruits, and the public at large. You don't get points in recruiting, or in perception of the public for SOS in football. We need to do as Lou C says and Duke is doing OOC, schedule to win.
 
Duke who everyone applauds for their outstanding season, North Carolina Center-MEAC-FCS division, Memphis-AAC, Troy-Sun Belt, and Navy were their OOC opponents. We gave away Pitt or would have been 5-3 in ACC, and with Duke's OOC possibly 9-3. we need to stop scheduling games that are a good possibility to lose, and schedule games to win. A record of 9-3 is much better then 7-5 in the eyes of recruits, and the public at large. You don't get points in recruiting, or in perception of the public for SOS in football. We need to do as Lou C says and Duke is doing OOC, schedule to win.

Yep, Colgate/Wagner/SUNYSB/SUNY Albany on a rotating basis, Army, Umass, and for a stretch assignment UB.
 
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Duke who everyone applauds for their outstanding season, North Carolina Center-MEAC-FCS division, Memphis-AAC, Troy-Sun Belt, and Navy were their OOC opponents. We gave away Pitt or would have been 5-3 in ACC, and with Duke's OOC possibly 9-3. we need to stop scheduling games that are a good possibility to lose, and schedule games to win. A record of 9-3 is much better then 7-5 in the eyes of recruits, and the public at large. You don't get points in recruiting, or in perception of the public for SOS in football. We need to do as Lou C says and Duke is doing OOC, schedule to win.

Problem is, we have serious attendance problems. We play 4 flogs it could get worse.

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Problem is, we have serious attendance problems. We play 4 flogs it could get worse.

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Trying to drive attendance by schedule is a losing proposition. It's the ultimate lagging indicator. String together a couple of 8 and 9 win seasons, however fraudlent and a couple of star players and you'll be back averaging in the low 40's.

Take the hit and pad the total, if the team is 5-1 after six games and the yokels aren't going to care who they played, just that they have a good record.
 
Rutgers offensive coordinator Ron Prince to coach quarterbacks permanently
Sounds like an attempt to salvage the recruiting class. Didn't work so hot for them last go around.

More on Fuchs

"Coach (Rob) Spence recruited Jordan," said Michael Fuchs. "And while we are on our official visit, they fire him? No one cares to explain it to us or even let us know it was happening? We found out from Twitter that he was fired the Sunday on our visit."

According to a source with knowledge of Fuchs' recruitment, Rutgers decided to stop recruiting Fuchs because coaches believed it wasn't a good fit. There also was a disagreement during the visit that caused the Fuchs' visit to be cut short prior to meeting with head coach Kyle Flood for the visit wrap-up. Fuchs – a mid-year qualifier – was not extended a National Letter of Intent, solidifying that he and Rutgers would not enter the Big Ten together.
 
More on Fuchs

According to a source with knowledge of Fuchs' recruitment, Rutgers decided to stop recruiting Fuchs because coaches believed it wasn't a good fit. There also was a disagreement during the visit that caused the Fuchs' visit to be cut short prior to meeting with head coach Kyle Flood for the visit wrap-up. Fuchs – a mid-year qualifier – was not extended a National Letter of Intent, solidifying that he and Rutgers would not enter the Big Ten together.

Wow that's some serious spin there from toad hunt. This guy is a scream
 
Wow that's some serious spin there from toad hunt. This guy is a scream
What amazes me is they fire the kid's primary recruiter on the day of his official. It's amazing to me how unorganized these things can seem. I understand they're on their own timeframe but that stuff is crazy.
 
Trying to drive attendance by schedule is a losing proposition. It's the ultimate lagging indicator. String together a couple of 8 and 9 win seasons, however fraudlent and a couple of star players and you'll be back averaging in the low 40's.

Take the hit and pad the total, if the team is 5-1 after six games and the yokels aren't going to care who they played, just that they have a good record.

The only thing isn't that same strategy why Minnesota has been criticized in other threads for their lack of respect nationally and within the Big 10 resulting in a bowl bid lower than their record? Just wondering.
 
The only thing isn't that same strategy why Minnesota has been criticized in other threads for their lack of respect nationally and within the Big 10 resulting in a bowl bid lower than their record? Just wondering.

They were also 8-2 and ranked before they lost to Wisconsin and Mich. St to end the year.

It seems like testing yourself out of conference is dinosaur thinking.

The reason Minnesota lacks national respect is because they have been for the most part awful for a long time, but it apparently they have been scheduling like the rest of their conference. What doesn't help them is losing three 1-AA game in the last couple of years and losing to non BCS teams a bunch.
 
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The only thing isn't that same strategy why Minnesota has been criticized in other threads for their lack of respect nationally and within the Big 10 resulting in a bowl bid lower than their record? Just wondering.

No. We were killing you guys for complaining about wanting to play a "name school" at a big bowl while scheduling none in your OOC.

The obvious threading the needle schedule would be a weak-good BCS, a small conference school, and gimme vs a team like Wagner.

If you're on the rise - like you proclaim - schedule a big school like an FSU or Clemson OOC.
 
No. We were killing you guys for complaining about wanting to play a "name school" at a big bowl while scheduling none in your OOC.

The obvious threading the needle schedule would be a weak-good BCS, a small conference school, and gimme vs a team like Wagner.

If you're on the rise - like you proclaim - schedule a big school like an FSU or Clemson OOC.
she is a longtime SU poster, not a minny fan
 

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