The center mystery

[Cusefan0307]

No one remembers this, but Anselem should/could be in HS right now. Not that it matters, but he was a top 50-60 player in the Class of 2021. But he moved up and finished as a Top 150-ish recruit in the Class of 2020.

Anselem to Reclassify to 2020

According to Andrew Slater of The Athletic, four-star Frank Anselem will reclassify into the 2020 recruiting class. Anselem is a 6-foot-10 center out of Prolific Prep in California. The young center recently named Alabama as one of his final three schools according to Adam Zagoria's blog.

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I am glad/thrilled he's here. But he won't help anytime soon. Next year I would think.

These type of moves (and others) are prime examples why the quality of CBB has dwindled in the last 10-12 years.

This basically is a redshirt year for him, but I have high hopes.

 

[hoopsupstate]

Evaluated and offered all these guys.

Didn't get commitments from any of them.

Maybe we needed a bigger bag?

Isaiah Jackson, Indiana Pacers, Power Forward

Isaiah Jackson is a 6-9, 200-pound Small Forward from Rochester, MI.

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Franck Kepnang, Washington Huskies, Center

Franck Kepnang is a 6-10, 220-pound Power Forward from Granby, MA.

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Hunter Dickinson, Kansas Jayhawks, Center

Hunter Dickinson is a 7-2, 255-pound Center (BK) from Hyattsville, MD.

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Clifford Omoruyi, Alabama Crimson Tide, Center

Clifford Omoruyi is a Power Forward from Roselle, NJ.

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Mac Etienne, UCLA Bruins, Center

Micawber Etienne is a Center (BK) from Suffield, CT.

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Dain Dainja, Illinois Fighting Illini, Power Forward

Dain Dainja is a Power Forward from Minneapolis, MN.

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Isaiah Stewart, Detroit Pistons, Power Forward

Isaiah Stewart is a 6-9, 245-pound Power Forward from Rochester, NY.

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Kofi Cockburn, Illinois Fighting Illini, Center

Kofi Cockburn is a 6-10, 290-pound Center (BK) from Middle Village, NY.

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Kai Jones, Charlotte Hornets, Center

Kai Jones is a 6-10, 205-pound Center (BK) from Orlando, FL.

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Aidan Igiehon, Grand Canyon Antelopes, Center

Aidan Igiehon is a 6-10, 235-pound center from Brooklyn, NY.

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Qudus Wahab, Penn State Nittany Lions, Power Forward

Qudus Wahab is a 6-11, 235-pound Center from Ashburn, VA.

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Nate Roberts, Washington Huskies, Power Forward

Nate Roberts is a Power Forward from Bel Air, MD. He is ranked No. 74 in the country by 247Sports. Roberts is the No. 5 recruit in Bel Air, MD (21014) State...

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Mohamed Bamba, Orlando Magic, Power Forward

Mohamed Bamba is a 6-11, 207-pound Power Forward from Harlem, NY. He is ranked No. 6 in the country by 247Sports. Bamba has a 247Sports rating of 100,...

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Nick Richards, Kentucky Wildcats, Center

Nicholas Richards is a 6-10, 220-pound Center (BK) from Manhasset, NY. He is ranked No. 37 in the country by 247Sports. Richards is the No. 2 recruit in...

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A lot of these guys have done very little in college.

 

[albanycuse]

We have to lead the country in giving scholarships to undersized centers who are projects and may never play. Just think about that.

 

[Fat tire 13]

Fast forward to 2038... Board gets mad when we whiff on Rak's kid...

 

[Scooch]

Evaluated and offered all these guys.

Didn't get commitments from any of them.

Maybe we needed a bigger bag?

Isaiah Jackson, Indiana Pacers, Power Forward

Isaiah Jackson is a 6-9, 200-pound Small Forward from Rochester, MI.

247sports.com

Franck Kepnang, Washington Huskies, Center

Franck Kepnang is a 6-10, 220-pound Power Forward from Granby, MA.

247sports.com

Hunter Dickinson, Kansas Jayhawks, Center

Hunter Dickinson is a 7-2, 255-pound Center (BK) from Hyattsville, MD.

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Clifford Omoruyi, Alabama Crimson Tide, Center

Clifford Omoruyi is a Power Forward from Roselle, NJ.

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Mac Etienne, UCLA Bruins, Center

Micawber Etienne is a Center (BK) from Suffield, CT.

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Dain Dainja, Illinois Fighting Illini, Power Forward

Dain Dainja is a Power Forward from Minneapolis, MN.

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Isaiah Stewart, Detroit Pistons, Power Forward

Isaiah Stewart is a 6-9, 245-pound Power Forward from Rochester, NY.

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Kofi Cockburn, Illinois Fighting Illini, Center

Kofi Cockburn is a 6-10, 290-pound Center (BK) from Middle Village, NY.

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Kai Jones, Charlotte Hornets, Center

Kai Jones is a 6-10, 205-pound Center (BK) from Orlando, FL.

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Aidan Igiehon, Grand Canyon Antelopes, Center

Aidan Igiehon is a 6-10, 235-pound center from Brooklyn, NY.

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Qudus Wahab, Penn State Nittany Lions, Power Forward

Qudus Wahab is a 6-11, 235-pound Center from Ashburn, VA.

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Nate Roberts, Washington Huskies, Power Forward

Nate Roberts is a Power Forward from Bel Air, MD. He is ranked No. 74 in the country by 247Sports. Roberts is the No. 5 recruit in Bel Air, MD (21014) State...

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Mohamed Bamba, Orlando Magic, Power Forward

Mohamed Bamba is a 6-11, 207-pound Power Forward from Harlem, NY. He is ranked No. 6 in the country by 247Sports. Bamba has a 247Sports rating of 100,...

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Nick Richards, Kentucky Wildcats, Center

Nicholas Richards is a 6-10, 220-pound Center (BK) from Manhasset, NY. He is ranked No. 37 in the country by 247Sports. Richards is the No. 2 recruit in...

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Coffee is for closers.

 

[MikeSU02]

Fast forward to 2038... Board gets mad when we whiff on Rak's kid...

If Rak's kid is also a McDonald's AA, yes.

And let me get this out of the way if it's the year 2038 - stay off my lawn!

 

[AZOrange]

If Rak's kid is also a McDonald's AA, yes.

And let me get this out of the way if it's the year 2038 - stay off my lawn!

And genetically how can he not be?

 

[jgeorge322]

Jba makes terrence roberts look calm. The guy acts like he just ate a pound of cat nip every time he enters the game.

 

[MikeSU02]

BTW, I floated this a few weeks ago, but I'm surprised we haven't tried a lineup of the below for extended periods:

Kadary
JGIII
Buddy
AG
Q

Reason I say Q at the five is he's just a bigger body and can rebound more naturally.

Now, I get we are making the wings worse on D (AG bc he floats in and out of games and Buddy because I think the wings have a bit too much ground to cover for him to be comfortable, but he isn't short), but that puts out guys that can knock down the three with Kadary, puts Q closer to the rim and it *should* allow Buddy, JGIII and AG more space for catch and shoot.

I know this pulls Marek off the floor, but Q is our best player and we need a true PG and the other guys can hit shots given the right circumstances (ie - playing with a point guard).

 

[orangecuse]

And that's not even all of them. Sigh. Jessie Govan from Buffalo went to G'Town and had a nice 4-year career. James Banks from Georgia had a nice couple of seasons at G'Tech. Thomas Bryant and his mom ...

Yep. Missed out too on C Osun Osunniyi to the Bonnies. The frigging Bonnies! Ugh!

BTW...why is it snowing on my computer screen.

 

[syrBossHogg]

BTW, I floated this a few weeks ago, but I'm surprised we haven't tried a lineup of the below for extended periods:

Kadary
JGIII
Buddy
AG
Q

Reason I say Q at the five is he's just a bigger body and can rebound more naturally.

Now, I get we are making the wings worse on D (AG bc he floats in and out of games and Buddy because I think the wings have a bit too much ground to cover for him to be comfortable, but he isn't short), but that puts out guys that can knock down the three with Kadary, puts Q closer to the rim and it *should* allow Buddy, JGIII and AG more space for catch and shoot.

I know this pulls Marek off the floor, but Q is our best player and we need a true PG and the other guys can hit shots given the right circumstances (ie - playing with a point guard).

That would be interesting to watch but that lineup gets murdered on the glass haha. I'd be interested in something like

Kadary
Buddy
AG
Braswell
Q

Still undersized but there's some athleticism and shooters on the floor for spacing.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

Yep. Missed out too on C Osun Osunniyi to the Bonnies. The frigging Bonnies! Ugh!

Originally committed to La Salle. Followed an assistant coach to Bona.

 

[MikeSU02]

That would be interesting to watch but that lineup gets murdered on the glass haha. I'd be interested in something like

Kadary
Buddy
AG
Braswell
Q

Still undersized but there's some athleticism and shooters on the floor for spacing.

I'm with you on the above lineup if it were up to me.

I should have been more clear - I was trying to shake things up using the guys that JB seems to already play.

I would love to see the lineup outline above. That frontline would be fun and I think Buddy would get some killer looks.

 

[Madbiker]

Here comes some sacrilege. Why would any good high school 5 go to SU to play for JB?
It takes good players 2 years to learn where they are supposed to be in the zone and the rotations. Some guys never get it.
The 5 is almost never included in the offense except for put backs. In the last 10 years there have been 2 seasons where a 5 did any scoring. Christmas his senior year and Lydon who was really a 4 with skills playing the 5. The other 8 years -- near zero. By design apparently.

 

[OrangeDW]

I thought JBA was more of a PF

Agreed. So is Marek though.

 

[rocklloyd]

If Rak's kid is also a McDonald's AA, yes.

And let me get this out of the way if it's the year 2038 - stay off my lawn!

Hoping for Dante green’s kid first.

 

[hoopsupstate]

JB recruits defense first with centers. Offense is just a bonus. That’s just what he does.

 

[Cusefan0307]

JB recruits defense first with centers. Offense is just a bonus. That’s just what he does.

Then he plays his undersized PF’s at center because he hates his centers ability to provide no offense.

 

[xc84]

Then he plays his undersized PF’s at center because he hates his centers ability to provide no offense.

If he had a current center that could play D, rebound, set picks, with little scoring, he'd play one.

 

[Cusefan0307]

If he had a current center that could play D, rebound, set picks, with little scoring, he'd play one.

Based on the evolution of JB over time I can only assume that if Craig Forth and Jeremy McNeil were on this team they would basically play Edwards minutes.

 

[DilemaCuse]

Here comes some sacrilege. Why would any good high school 5 go to SU to play for JB?
It takes good players 2 years to learn where they are supposed to be in the zone and the rotations. Some guys never get it.
The 5 is almost never included in the offense except for put backs. In the last 10 years there have been 2 seasons where a 5 did any scoring. Christmas his senior year and Lydon who was really a 4 with skills playing the 5. The other 8 years -- near zero. By design apparently.

Another example of why the next coach has to be outside of the JB tree, different eyes to evaluate differently and make a different pitch

 

[orangecuse]

Here comes some sacrilege. Why would any good high school 5 go to SU to play for JB?
It takes good players 2 years to learn where they are supposed to be in the zone and the rotations. Some guys never get it.
The 5 is almost never included in the offense except for put backs. In the last 10 years there have been 2 seasons where a 5 did any scoring. Christmas his senior year and Lydon who was really a 4 with skills playing the 5. The other 8 years -- near zero. By design apparently.

They don't...for the obvious reasons you've pointed out. As Extreme showed, just look at the plethora of centers we went after, and hard at that, due to our obvious needs and shortcomings. I mean, the high probability that many of those dudes could've come here and started right away, however, said thanks but no thanks, clearly speaks for itself and is quite telling.

In regards to our guard issues, that's a bit more of an enigma as to why we haven't been able to land a true point guard since Ennis. We have missed on a lot of those too. Silent G worked out well, but he wasn't brought here to play the point, it was by necessity and we were quite fortunate how he was able to adjust and have the skill set to be productive there. We landed Carey, but it didn't take too long to see that he wasn't PG material with his lack of handle, etc., at least not at the P5 level. We landed Richmond kind of by default after being spurned by Andre Jackson. And as mentioned, unless we go after another guard in the spring recruiting period, or bring in some transfer type, we'll have the same situation next year as well. I'm high on Richmond at PG as many here are, and I think he could finally be the guy we've been searching for, but JB's stubbornness with his son, rotations, etc. doesn't make me too confident that much is going to change on this front either.

 

[chugg21]

JB recruits defense first with centers. Offense is just a bonus. That’s just what he does.

Seems to recruit foreign guys who haven't played a lot of bball so have a weak bball iq and aren't particularly good on either side of the floor. At least thats what the last 5 years of centers on the roster tells me.

 

[CardiacCuse]

Sidibe was the incumbant who looked to be primed for a big senior year as the starter.

How can you recruit against that?

you get projects/players who are okay with knowng they wont start...hence, jba, frank, edwards...

you arent gnna get 4/5 star centers to come in and ride the bench all season.

With him injured, it has blown up against the team.

conSIDering his injury history, was a gamble (that didnt pay off)...but not realy much of a mystery.

 

[Briancuse]

Sidibe was the incumbant who looked to be primed for a big senior year as the starter.

How can you recruit against that?

you get projects/players who are okay with knowng they wont start...hence, jba, frank, edwards...

you arent gnna get 4/5 star centers to come in and ride the bench all season.

With him injured, it has blown up against the team.

conSIDering his injury history, was a gamble (that didnt pay off)...but not realy much of a mystery.

I love sidibe but he isn't shaq. He's has a history of injuries and foul trouble. Any halfway decent center would be getting big minutes right now.