Class of 2022 This year’s class

[sutomcat]

Start sacrificing chickens at halftime in section 319

 

[JRHEETER]

I think these kids all just visited. No much mid major here.

Mekhi Mason
Georgia Tech
Indiana
Syracuse
Florida State
LSU
Mississippi
Pittsburgh
West Virginia
Louisville
Mississippi State

Mani Powell
Arkansas
Boston College
Indiana
Kentucky
Michigan
Mississippi
Syracuse
West Virginia

Jordan Anthony
Mississippi, Kentucky, Tennessee and Boston College

Davin Jackson
Georgia Tech
Kansas
North Carolina State
South Carolina
West Virginia

Jeremiah Wilson
Washington State, Arizona, Iowa State

Q'yaeir Price
Boston College
Indiana
Kansas
Maryland
Pittsburgh
Purdue
Rutgers
West Virginia

DeAunte Hunter
Kansas
Mississippi
West Virginia

Dom Foster
bc, wake, syracuse just in the last week

You don’t read my dude.

I literally said, on the flipside, we usually offer early before other “blue bloods” offer

all of those that you mentioned, from what I can tell, are guys who received those offers after Syracuse offered…

Mani Powell is a prime example…his offers when Syracuse offered was… CMU, Kent St, YSU, Liberty, WMU, Buffalo, Syracuse

those are all mid majors my man

Not trying to be rude but gotta be realistic

 

[ImperialOrange]

I predict we will only have 3 commits with over a 85 composite rating. It is what it is fellas. It can change if the season goes better than expected. We are coming off a 1-10 season. All I can say it that we are getting negative recruited by many schools. You can probably guess one of the schools just by the timing of my post.

Flip side is schools/coaches that have to negative recruit other schools because their own school doesn't have enough going for it to sell on it's own give off a certain kind of energy. Not sure the PC way to put it... it's the folks that have to step closer to the plate because their bat is too small to cover the strike zone.

Have to think some/many recruits pick up on that. "You're recruiting me, why are you so busy talking about another school?"

 

[PhatOrange]

You don’t read my dude.

I literally said, on the flipside, we usually offer early before other “blue bloods” offer

all of those that you mentioned, from what I can tell, are guys who received those offers after Syracuse offered…

Mani Powell is a prime example…his offers when Syracuse offered was… CMU, Kent St, YSU, Liberty, WMU, Buffalo, Syracuse

those are all mid majors my man

Not trying to be rude but gotta be realistic

I'm not sure there are many different ways to read or interpret what you literally said:

This is what you literally said:

"I’ll be honest, a lot of them we are fighting for have offers with like mid major programs….."

 

[money3189]

Have to think some/many recruits pick up on that. "You're recruiting me, why are you so busy talking about another school?"

I agree. Im sure it plays out like that in a lot of situations.

 

[money3189]

You don’t read my dude.

I literally said, on the flipside, we usually offer early before other “blue bloods” offer

all of those that you mentioned, from what I can tell, are guys who received those offers after Syracuse offered…

Mani Powell is a prime example…his offers when Syracuse offered was… CMU, Kent St, YSU, Liberty, WMU, Buffalo, Syracuse

those are all mid majors my man

Not trying to be rude but gotta be realistic

All struggling P5 teams have prospects with lots of G5 offers. Thats not really a surpirse. Most of our commits do have other P5 offers. Until we start winning we wont get prospects with all P5 offers. Not sure what you expect from a team with recruiting challenges within the state and has 12 losing seasons in 16 years.

 

[ImperialOrange]

I agree. Im sure it plays out like that in a lot of situations.

Hopefully Dino and co don't do the same re: negative recruiting. Not sure if you'd heard one way or the other but despite last seasons results, and proximity to talent hot beds, SU as a whole has a TON to offer.

 

[CuseLegacy]

My next door neighbor is raising chickens. I would happily donate some to a good cause.

 

[AngryOtto]

We probably going to be down on recruits going into the season. DB will not settle on players. Which is good.
Personally I do not care how many commits we have by the season starts. If we win I could see recruits committing before signing period. If we do not win we will be in reset mode with a new coach and staff.
There is also the portal where we can fill where necessary.
No reason to freak out at this point.

 

[CbusCuse]

We probably going to be down on recruits going into the season. DB will not settle on players. Which is good.
Personally I do not care how many commits we have by the season starts. If we win I could see recruits committing before signing period. If we do not win we will be in reset mode with a new coach and staff.
There is also the portal where we can fill where necessary.
No reason to freak out at this point.

While we maybe should expect lower rated recruits this year due to our lousy record last year, alternatively we should expect higher rated recruits because other teams are taking less players in this class. We all want good recruits now. We don't want to wait on putting a class together and feel like we are behind our peers, but it may be the best move for our class as we hopefully have better on field results to attract better talent at the end of the recruiting period, there should be decent talent available with out many landing spots, recruits can be better evaluated based on this falls game film as last year evaluation of players was difficult. There could be some guys that are just under the radar as they didn't have much opportunity to show there skills.

 

[IthacaMatt]

Need to be aggressive with transfers going forward, the portal will always have players that can help us

We need to be aggressive with our offensive play calling a lot more.

 

[IthacaMatt]

We probably going to be down on recruits going into the season. DB will not settle on players. Which is good.
Personally I do not care how many commits we have by the season starts. If we win I could see recruits committing before signing period. If we do not win we will be in reset mode with a new coach and staff.
There is also the portal where we can fill where necessary.
No reason to freak out at this point.

This is the truth. We have to be good this year; not great, but not awful. If we get off to a good start, we'll start getting the attention of some recruits again.

 

[syrBossHogg]

We need to be aggressive with our offensive play calling a lot more.

We do, but you're only as good as the personnel you have. You can't have your QB take 5 or 7 step drop plays if your O-line can't hold up for that long.

 

[IthacaMatt]

We do, but you're only as good as the personnel you have. You can't have your QB take 5 or 7 step drop plays if your O-line can't hold up for that long.

Sure.

On the other hand, you need plays that develop quicker, and you need counters to slow down the blitz.

If you can't do those things, you can't do anything.

As we saw last year. That stuff was awful.

 

[money3189]

Sure.

On the other hand, you need plays that develop quicker, and you need counters to slow down the blitz.

If you can't do those things, you can't do anything.

As we saw last year. That stuff was awful.

Yup being agressive doesnt necessarily mean take deep shots. I would have like to see more gadget plays, trick plays early on to add a spark to the offense and make the defense a little more honest. We didnt do a good enough job hiding our defeciencies. The gadget plays helps with that

 

[hoopsupstate]

What’s sad is the pool of recruits we are looking at. We aren’t even in the running for four and five rated recruits. We aren’t even getting a sniff at these recruits. We are battling and losing three star recruits. Dino is not bringing in anyone who will make an immediate impact. Occasionally, we will get a steal, but we‘re still near the bottom of the pack in the ACC. Dino needs to pull in a huge difference maker. By year six this should be happening.

 

[JRHEETER]

Yup being agressive doesnt necessarily mean take deep shots. I would have like to see more gadget plays, trick plays early on to add a spark to the offense and make the defense a little more honest. We didnt do a good enough job hiding our defeciencies. The gadget plays helps with that

I could be wrong but I feel early in DB tenure at Syracuse he used far more trick plays and gadget plays.

Those seemed to dry up the last two seasons.

 

[baggerbob]

Yup being agressive doesnt necessarily mean take deep shots. I would have like to see more gadget plays, trick plays early on to add a spark to the offense and make the defense a little more honest. We didnt do a good enough job hiding our defeciencies. The gadget plays helps with that

We have a TE who is 6-7 and about 265, if he can catch the ball throw it to him across the middle, and let him punish people. Louisville has been doing that to us for years.

 

[orangencpolice]

Not sure shrader will start the season but I do think he could excel in our system. A mobile qb cannot be understated. He may not be able to throw the deep ball as well as others but I do believe he can move the chains and score.

I can’t see Dino not playing him, even if TD starts. His running ability with decent passing options can’t be ignored in situations to throw off opposing defenses. I say start the best man and see where the season takes us.

 

[money3189]

We have a TE who is 6-7 and about 265, if he can catch the ball throw it to him across the middle, and let him punish people. Louisville has been doing that to us for years.

Its very puzzling why we dont throw in the middle of the field or throw to the TE more. Im glad you mentioned that. I dont understand that either.

 

[baggerbob]

Its very puzzling why we dont throw in the middle of the field or throw to the TE more. Im glad you mentioned that. I dont understand that either.

Louisville has killed us like that for years, they have had guys 6-5 and 235-250. You get a big TE in the middle of the field, and he creates nightmares for the defense.

 

[baggerbob]

Louisville has killed us like that for years, they have had guys 6-5 and 235-250. You get a big TE in the middle of the field, and he creates nightmares for the defense.

Baylor had that 400 lb TE who was a nightmare for teams.

 

[money3189]

I could be wrong but I feel early in DB tenure at Syracuse he used far more trick plays and gadget plays.

Those seemed to dry up the last two seasons.

You are right, Lewis did more gadget stuff.

 

[tep624]

What’s sad is the pool of recruits we are looking at. We aren’t even in the running for four and five rated recruits. We aren’t even getting a sniff at these recruits. We are battling and losing three star recruits. Dino is not bringing in anyone who will make an immediate impact. Occasionally, we will get a steal, but we‘re still near the bottom of the pack in the ACC. Dino needs to pull in a huge difference maker. By year six this should be happening.

Not for nothing, but if 5 star recruits are a measure of disappointment for you, well, we haven't had one in over 20 years. Even during our power years in the 90's we landed maybe 1 a year if we were lucky. The top 25 are the 5 stars - hell we haven't even had a top 100 recruit from any service since Cecil Howard in 2001.

We can be a successful program and regularly ranked program without that, but to your point, we do need to be bringing in every class 4-6 recruits who are immediately ready to play due to talent and physical development and not due to desperation. I'm not seeing that yet in this class so far and the guys that had that profile (Spells for example) look like they're going elsewhere. So I get it.

 

[RF2044]

I could be wrong but I feel early in DB tenure at Syracuse he used far more trick plays and gadget plays.

Those seemed to dry up the last two seasons.

TD

The common denominator of the last two seasons, when the offensive diversity disappeared.